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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
MaxQT
Profile Joined January 2013
69 Posts
January 28 2013 16:06 GMT
#4601
On January 28 2013 18:02 -Xartz- wrote:
Hacker Name: DOOOOOPE
Server: EU
League: Master 1vs1 (Current season Plat) Master 2vs2 (current season diamond)
description: I noticed something strange happen in a 2vs2. The protoss player magically photon rushed without knowing out location on a 4vs4 map. I went 17 nexus and he knew exactly where the nexus was without seeing it or scouting for it, he attempted to cannon that expansion too.
The proof itself is in the replay.
http://drop.sc/299448


Xartz, nice probe split in the beginning. In roughly 1 ingame frame (aprox. 1/64 of an ingame second) you selected all your probes, clicked on two mineral patches, deselected 4 units, and send the remaining units to another mineral field. I'm wondering who is doing strange stuff here..

Proof:

sc2gears

188 Xartz Select Probe x6 (10368,1036c,10370,10374,10378,1037c), Deselect all
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (10194); target: x=24.00,y=111.50
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (10198); target: x=25.00,y=112.50
188 Xartz Deselect 4 units
188 Xartz Right click; target: x=26.54,y=108.33
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (1018c); target: x=25.00,y=108.50
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
January 28 2013 17:24 GMT
#4602
If its just the beginning, or only happens once, it's more likely a lag spike. I'll check the rest of the replay for anything suspicious.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 28 2013 17:47 GMT
#4603
yes, this is a common issue that korona has pointed out earlier. lag spikes can produce this. it is especially common at the start of a game.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
HeafynK
Profile Joined August 2012
9 Posts
January 28 2013 19:40 GMT
#4604
Hacker name: CamelHumper
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description:
This guy is so obvius... he never scout he know i was going reapers and when i move my reapers he move all his army at the same direction... how is this posible. Well you will notice all those obvius moves easily.

Here is the replay: http://drop.sc/287067
Wanna-be-cool
Profile Joined June 2007
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 02:52:40
January 29 2013 02:52 GMT
#4605
Hacker name: llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Masters [Now he got promoted to GM]
Description: I've noticed some obvious known hacker mistakes while I was playing him. He found my pylons as soon as I've placed them and destroy them. Also, I saw the replay, he has never scouted and have no vision on me the entire game. Lastly, he has a "Camera Lock" on so that we can't see where he's looking at. It's way too obvious.

I've played him three times and won once because he's really bad.

Here are very obvious replays:
http://drop.sc/300087 He wins,
http://drop.sc/300092 I win.
http://drop.sc/300093 He wins.

Thank you for your time.
-GoSuwbc-
It's not about mechanics and apm. It's about strategy!!
wrekonize
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand7 Posts
January 29 2013 03:27 GMT
#4606
Hacker name: Furious (protoss)
Server: NA
League: Gold
Description: The map hack is most obvious around half time, when he instantly reacts to my overlord drop without any vision.

http://www22.zippyshare.com/v/11735214/file.html
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
January 29 2013 11:06 GMT
#4607
On January 29 2013 01:06 MaxQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 18:02 -Xartz- wrote:
Hacker Name: DOOOOOPE
Server: EU
League: Master 1vs1 (Current season Plat) Master 2vs2 (current season diamond)
description: I noticed something strange happen in a 2vs2. The protoss player magically photon rushed without knowing out location on a 4vs4 map. I went 17 nexus and he knew exactly where the nexus was without seeing it or scouting for it, he attempted to cannon that expansion too.
The proof itself is in the replay.
http://drop.sc/299448


Xartz, nice probe split in the beginning. In roughly 1 ingame frame (aprox. 1/64 of an ingame second) you selected all your probes, clicked on two mineral patches, deselected 4 units, and send the remaining units to another mineral field. I'm wondering who is doing strange stuff here..

Proof:

sc2gears

Show nested quote +
188 Xartz Select Probe x6 (10368,1036c,10370,10374,10378,1037c), Deselect all
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (10194); target: x=24.00,y=111.50
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (10198); target: x=25.00,y=112.50
188 Xartz Deselect 4 units
188 Xartz Right click; target: x=26.54,y=108.33
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (1018c); target: x=25.00,y=108.50


Man, someone got busted. It's pretty shocking to report other cheaters when doing it yourself.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
January 29 2013 11:27 GMT
#4608
On January 29 2013 20:06 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:06 MaxQT wrote:
On January 28 2013 18:02 -Xartz- wrote:
Hacker Name: DOOOOOPE
Server: EU
League: Master 1vs1 (Current season Plat) Master 2vs2 (current season diamond)
description: I noticed something strange happen in a 2vs2. The protoss player magically photon rushed without knowing out location on a 4vs4 map. I went 17 nexus and he knew exactly where the nexus was without seeing it or scouting for it, he attempted to cannon that expansion too.
The proof itself is in the replay.
http://drop.sc/299448


Xartz, nice probe split in the beginning. In roughly 1 ingame frame (aprox. 1/64 of an ingame second) you selected all your probes, clicked on two mineral patches, deselected 4 units, and send the remaining units to another mineral field. I'm wondering who is doing strange stuff here..

Proof:

sc2gears

188 Xartz Select Probe x6 (10368,1036c,10370,10374,10378,1037c), Deselect all
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (10194); target: x=24.00,y=111.50
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (10198); target: x=25.00,y=112.50
188 Xartz Deselect 4 units
188 Xartz Right click; target: x=26.54,y=108.33
188 Xartz Right click; target: Mineral Field (1018c); target: x=25.00,y=108.50


Man, someone got busted. It's pretty shocking to report other cheaters when doing it yourself.


Easy now. If he did this I agree that it would be stupid. But as pointed out earlier this can be caused by lag. So no need to point fingers right away.
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coldscars
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany141 Posts
January 29 2013 14:04 GMT
#4609
On January 29 2013 11:52 Wanna-be-cool wrote:
Hacker name: llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Masters [Now he got promoted to GM]
Description: I've noticed some obvious known hacker mistakes while I was playing him. He found my pylons as soon as I've placed them and destroy them. Also, I saw the replay, he has never scouted and have no vision on me the entire game. Lastly, he has a "Camera Lock" on so that we can't see where he's looking at. It's way too obvious.

I've played him three times and won once because he's really bad.

Here are very obvious replays:
http://drop.sc/300087 He wins,
http://drop.sc/300092 I win.
http://drop.sc/300093 He wins.

Thank you for your time.
-GoSuwbc-


hes the same guy maphacking vs me. i posted him as well. i hope that confirms hes hacking
\BibleThump/
HydrOPoneY
Profile Joined January 2012
France4 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 18:45:54
January 29 2013 18:45 GMT
#4610
Hi Guys I just played a game against someone very suspicious (i'm sorry for my poor english mistakes which i could do)
Maybe hacker : Makaveli
Server : EU
League master.

cancel his gateway for a forge whithout seing anything maybe production hack and then at 4.min approximatly looking in my base if you can help me to comfirme if he hacks or not thx

edit : he always knows where i move my army.

here is the replay :D : http://drop.sc/300513

have a good day
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 19:41:34
January 29 2013 19:36 GMT
#4611
Hacker name: llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Plat but Master MMR
Description: Opens 2 gate without seeing my proxy gate, drops cyber as soon as i do instead of keeping zealots production to defend, he said he doesnt play standard and does 2 gate, but his match history doesn't say so.

Replay: http://drop.sc/300524
Chim4ira
Profile Joined March 2011
Chile2 Posts
January 29 2013 19:44 GMT
#4612
Same as Extenz got hacked by the same

name:llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Plat but Master MMR
Description: 2 gate proxy on entombed valley completely blind, then switch to stalkers.

Replay: http://drop.sc/300525
Anger is a gift
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 09:38:15
January 30 2013 09:34 GMT
#4613
Can someone check out this replay please, it confuses me:

http://drop.sc/300672

Check from 10:45-11:20, it seems like he is switching on his blinkhack at the start of the fight (stalkers dont seem to be selected) and the he swtiches his hack off and blinks manually.

This guy was gm and is now highmasters.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 14:14:38
January 30 2013 11:51 GMT
#4614
Hello everyone
Can you help me?
look at this game, Dakkon vs Bombs
http://drop.sc/300596
According to SC2gears

4:25 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Bunker (0); target: x=34.50,y=53.50

in this moment (6:06 at ingame time), Dakkon right clicks a bunker that he has never seen before
Is this perfectly normal?

[image loading]
-

Another game, Dakkon x Pasidan (danny)
http://drop.sc/273322

9:00 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Banshee (0); target: x=79.55,y=82.37

in this game, at 12:27 (according to sc2gears time conversor) Dakkon right clicks a banshee that is not in his vision three times in a row.

Is this right?
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gylka
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 12:24:30
January 30 2013 12:20 GMT
#4615
On January 30 2013 03:45 HydrOPoneY wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi Guys I just played a game against someone very suspicious (i'm sorry for my poor english mistakes which i could do)
Maybe hacker : Makaveli
Server : EU
League master.

cancel his gateway for a forge whithout seing anything maybe production hack and then at 4.min approximatly looking in my base if you can help me to comfirme if he hacks or not thx

edit : he always knows where i move my army.

here is the replay :D : http://drop.sc/300513

have a good day

Nice!
Analysed replay only cause I have in friendlist one Makaveli (Russian EU GM player) and he is protoss too. But thats not the same account (that GM is inactive for 33 weeks). And running forward - they play different looks like. That GM spammed a lot with APM 250, but who knows.. Anyway

BNet accout:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3343761/1/Makaveli/

1:50 - Makaveli builds gateway, then after a second cancels it throws forge. Thats right after HydrOPoneY placed his forge earlier. (having production hack helps, lol). And Makaveli didnt leave his base, didnt scout. An attorney could say that maybe he played you earlier and in all games you canoned him, but he didnt scout, and even didnt try to canon HydrOPoneY. (like wtf? why u built forge and dont even try to canon?). Thats not how guys play in Masters.
2:40 - Looks in HydrOPoneY's base, but his probe starting moveing out in that direction. Maybe he looked there and clicked on minimap somewhere near (i still didnt find the path of that probe).

17:05 - Cancels 3rd Nexus (was almost done) seeing nothing because whole game he didnt scout (except that 2:40 probe scout after late blind forge ,lol). And thats even having blink stalkers in bigger numbers than HydrOPoneY, he didnt even took watchtowers, which is kinda not ok in masters. So he cancels 3rd Nexus, seeing nothing but thats cause HydrOPoneY started moving out in for 2-base atack and Makaveli could see it only on minimap hack.

For me its absolutely clear that Makaveli hacks, and he is realy bad... like realy bad.

p.s. sorry for bad enlish, not my native.
HydrOPoneY
Profile Joined January 2012
France4 Posts
January 30 2013 16:07 GMT
#4616
I played him once again here you'll find the replay thanks for your attention gylka! i beated him with an all in cause i knew he was bad and that i cant win a maphacker in macro game so... here you will find the second replay :D ( i taunted him in game ) xD

http://drop.sc/300692

well i think that he hacks cause being in master with such a crap play seems really a joke to my eyes . whatch this out !^^
gylka
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 18:21:27
January 30 2013 18:00 GMT
#4617
On January 31 2013 01:07 HydrOPoneY wrote:
I played him once again here you'll find the replay thanks for your attention gylka! i beated him with an all in cause i knew he was bad and that i cant win a maphacker in macro game so... here you will find the second replay :D ( i taunted him in game ) xD

http://drop.sc/300692

well i think that he hacks cause being in master with such a crap play seems really a joke to my eyes . whatch this out !^^

Nothing realy suspicious. Just a regular "clean" game. You spoiled to him that you know he hacks and he started to play like he dont.
A tip. If you want to gather more evidence - dont tell if you suspect him maphacking. But in case to laugh only (cause blizzard almost dont give a shit) - ye, its fine.
Having only this replay I'd never accused someone of MH. And bad play alone dont tell anything - he could be listening to music, being under beer, temporarily gave other guy this account, etc... But the 1st replay with blind forge and nexus cancel (sick!) and no scout whole game having 10 blink stalkers (cause he doesnt need to scout, he is just too good, lol) is enough.

ADD.
And he will be in GM very soon if he'll play often with that win-lose stats 37-14. There's not many masters with that stats.
And thats sad...
Virtuous
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States111 Posts
January 31 2013 07:52 GMT
#4618
On January 30 2013 20:51 ( bush wrote:
Hello everyone
Can you help me?
look at this game, Dakkon vs Bombs
http://drop.sc/300596
According to SC2gears

4:25 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Bunker (0); target: x=34.50,y=53.50

in this moment (6:06 at ingame time), Dakkon right clicks a bunker that he has never seen before
Is this perfectly normal?

[image loading]
-

Another game, Dakkon x Pasidan (danny)
http://drop.sc/273322

9:00 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Banshee (0); target: x=79.55,y=82.37

in this game, at 12:27 (according to sc2gears time conversor) Dakkon right clicks a banshee that is not in his vision three times in a row.

Is this right?


That's a good catch. I'm like 99.9% sure that means he is hacking. The right click through fog means he selected your building on attack move with a unit, which you could only do with with hacks.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
January 31 2013 09:13 GMT
#4619
On January 31 2013 16:52 Virtuous wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 30 2013 20:51 ( bush wrote:
Hello everyone
Can you help me?
look at this game, Dakkon vs Bombs
http://drop.sc/300596
According to SC2gears

4:25 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Bunker (0); target: x=34.50,y=53.50

in this moment (6:06 at ingame time), Dakkon right clicks a bunker that he has never seen before
Is this perfectly normal?

[image loading]
-

Another game, Dakkon x Pasidan (danny)
http://drop.sc/273322

9:00 lFKlDakkoN Right click; target: Banshee (0); target: x=79.55,y=82.37

in this game, at 12:27 (according to sc2gears time conversor) Dakkon right clicks a banshee that is not in his vision three times in a row.

Is this right?


That's a good catch. I'm like 99.9% sure that means he is hacking. The right click through fog means he selected your building on attack move with a unit, which you could only do with with hacks.


The analysis is correct. You cannot click or attack a structure you do not have prior vision of. This single line is indicative of hacking. Unfortunately, SC2gears times (in seconds) are all wrong, but looking at the replay, the attack in question is at 5:56. Up until that point, the zerg has absolutely no vision of the terran base or tech path, whatsoever.

I also pulled up an older replay:
http://drop.sc/281665
keydAllvini vs lFKlDakkoN
Opening overlord scouts Cross map but does not actually verify terran location or look for anything. Ever.
4:12 Good long look through fog of war at terran main and expo
5:06 Sends lings to intercept scouting SCV with no prior vision of SCV
8:38 Blind spines at natural and main (drop en route) later cancels spines in main once drop dealt with at natural

http://drop.sc/274574
KSxKim vs lFKlDakkoN
14:12 Looks at Terran army and expo at 3rd through fog of war
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 09:40:22
January 31 2013 09:40 GMT
#4620
link to hackers account on sc2ranks

race : terran

server: EU

league : high master soon to be gm with 88/16 record.

proof : camera lock,no scan,no scout,funny army movement,blind viking massing without sight of robo or robo bay.

replay : http://drop.sc/300874
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