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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 23:56:18
January 31 2013 09:55 GMT
#4621
On January 30 2013 18:34 Sokrates wrote:
Can someone check out this replay please, it confuses me:

http://drop.sc/300672

Check from 10:45-11:20, it seems like he is switching on his blinkhack at the start of the fight (stalkers dont seem to be selected) and the he swtiches his hack off and blinks manually.

This guy was gm and is now highmasters.


Possible blink hack??? Viewing in game, even on normal speed, looks fine though. All the rest of the blinking through the game through to the end all look legit.

42040 DeathEnD Hotkey Select 1
42072 DeathEnD Deselect all
42076 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=75.43
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=76.63
42084 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.48,y=88.66
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=77.78
42132 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514), Deselect all
42144 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.36,y=84.63
42164 DeathEnD Select Stalker (10580), Deselect all
42168 DeathEnD Deselect all
42184 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514)
42228 DeathEnD Select Stalker (205e4), Deselect all
42240 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.09,y=85.79

Feb 3 6:55EST EDIT - all the blinks when watched in the replay are individually selected and blinked. The only thing that catches my eye as odd is the Move, Blink, and Move as noted above in the same frame in the replay. Otherwise, nothing odd about this replay, no other indicators of hacking what so ever.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
NoStAL-
Profile Joined January 2013
1 Post
January 31 2013 10:41 GMT
#4622
Hi,

What u think about this rep:

http://drop.sc/300878

He was top dia, now top master with 50 apm, how? I think he is hacker

Nick of hacker: saloed

He destroy proxy pylon without scout, just send a stalker to my pylon
He no scout
He send warprism to my base without scoutXD!

Whats ur opinion?^^ I think its pretty obv
PleasexD
CypressJ
Profile Joined January 2013
2 Posts
January 31 2013 11:17 GMT
#4623
Hi all,

Hacker: BePrepared (and possibly NicoleScherz)
Server: Hots beta (NA)
League: GM in HotS 1v1
Replay: http://drop.sc/300879

Description:
I randomed a 2v2. Near the start of the game one of the opponents (BePrepared) pauses the game; my ally seems annoyed and says that he previously played our two opponents (which I later verified from his game history) and they use a hack that pauses the game in such a way that you are unable to unpause it. Not but a few seconds later BePrepared pauses the game and then quickly leaves. Presumably it would have been a waiting match between us and BePrepared's ally, NicoleScherz, but we don't wait too long before we leave the game (thereby registering a loss).

Looking at BePrepared's game history, he had 9 2v2 matches within the last hour that were all very similar in game length (~80 seconds, even though the games were spaced ~8-10 minutes apart) and all were with NicoleScherz. This hacker is particularly distressing because he is GM in 1s, so I felt the need to make a TL account and post here (in addition to the in-game report).
`Nubster
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 11:41:05
January 31 2013 11:38 GMT
#4624
Hacker name: Zergkiller
Server: NA
League: Master
Description:
I played a game with him on cloud kingdom where Zergkiller proxy stargates me. I decide to go for 6 rax to be safe on Condemned Ridge.
1:47 Looks into fog of war
2:11 Looks into fog of war
2:54 Looks into fog of war
5:58 Looks into fog of war
6:12 Looks into fog of war
7:29 Looks into fog of war
7:42 Looks into fog of war
13:24 Looks into fog of war
13:55 Looks into fog of war
14:58 Looks into fog of war
15:56 Looks into fog of war

Replay: http://drop.sc/300885
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 14:05:18
January 31 2013 14:04 GMT
#4625
On January 31 2013 20:17 CypressJ wrote:
Hi all,

Hacker: BePrepared (and possibly NicoleScherz)
Server: Hots beta (NA)
League: GM in HotS 1v1
Replay: http://drop.sc/300879

Description:
I randomed a 2v2. Near the start of the game one of the opponents (BePrepared) pauses the game; my ally seems annoyed and says that he previously played our two opponents (which I later verified from his game history) and they use a hack that pauses the game in such a way that you are unable to unpause it. Not but a few seconds later BePrepared pauses the game and then quickly leaves. Presumably it would have been a waiting match between us and BePrepared's ally, NicoleScherz, but we don't wait too long before we leave the game (thereby registering a loss).

Looking at BePrepared's game history, he had 9 2v2 matches within the last hour that were all very similar in game length (~80 seconds, even though the games were spaced ~8-10 minutes apart) and all were with NicoleScherz. This hacker is particularly distressing because he is GM in 1s, so I felt the need to make a TL account and post here (in addition to the in-game report).


May i direct you to the HOTS Hacker thread =>

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391699
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Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
January 31 2013 15:46 GMT
#4626
Hacker: GhoSTanubis
Server: EU
League: Master (mid-high; last season: diamond)
Replay: http://drop.sc/300920

sends a scoutingprobe in my base, but never uses it to scout. when it leaves, he still doesn´t know if i took a 2nd gas or not.

he reacts to everything i do, of course without seeing anything.
-army movement (my scouting probe and warpin pylon found immediatly; 1st phoenix fight- he sends his right to my phoenixes; my guys move out, he cancels his nexus)
- buildings (robo&obs just in time to counter my dt)

i don´t use sc2gears. maybe one of you can check for impossible commands.
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
January 31 2013 16:31 GMT
#4627


The analysis is correct. You cannot click or attack a structure you do not have prior vision of. This single line is indicative of hacking. Unfortunately, SC2gears times (in seconds) are all wrong, but looking at the replay, the attack in question is at 5:56. Up until that point, the zerg has absolutely no vision of the terran base or tech path, whatsoever.


hmm i dont understand, sc2gears times in seconds are wrong? can you explain?

Anyway, the guy is pretty much confirmed hacking.
oo
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
January 31 2013 17:19 GMT
#4628
And its funny because he denies it tooth and nail and streams with cam watchinh his dual screen set up.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
January 31 2013 17:24 GMT
#4629
On January 31 2013 18:40 bGr.MetHiX wrote:
link to hackers account on sc2ranks

race : terran

server: EU

league : high master soon to be gm with 88/16 record.

proof : camera lock,no scan,no scout,funny army movement,blind viking massing without sight of robo or robo bay.

replay : http://drop.sc/300874


heres another one of his, blatant maphack w/ camera lock, also note sub 100 apm
TL+ Member
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 01 2013 00:20 GMT
#4630
On February 01 2013 01:31 ( bush wrote:
Show nested quote +


The analysis is correct. You cannot click or attack a structure you do not have prior vision of. This single line is indicative of hacking. Unfortunately, SC2gears times (in seconds) are all wrong, but looking at the replay, the attack in question is at 5:56. Up until that point, the zerg has absolutely no vision of the terran base or tech path, whatsoever.


hmm i dont understand, sc2gears times in seconds are wrong? can you explain?

Anyway, the guy is pretty much confirmed hacking.


Yeah, at least for me, its in real time not game (faster) time. How many players have blink researched at 4:30?
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
February 01 2013 00:42 GMT
#4631
On January 31 2013 18:55 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 18:34 Sokrates wrote:
Can someone check out this replay please, it confuses me:

http://drop.sc/300672

Check from 10:45-11:20, it seems like he is switching on his blinkhack at the start of the fight (stalkers dont seem to be selected) and the he swtiches his hack off and blinks manually.

This guy was gm and is now highmasters.


Possible blink hack??? Viewing in game, even on normal speed, looks fine though. All the rest of the blinking through the game through to the end all look legit.

42040 DeathEnD Hotkey Select 1
42072 DeathEnD Deselect all
42076 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=75.43
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=76.63
42084 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.48,y=88.66
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=77.78
42132 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514), Deselect all
42144 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.36,y=84.63
42164 DeathEnD Select Stalker (10580), Deselect all
42168 DeathEnD Deselect all
42184 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514)
42228 DeathEnD Select Stalker (205e4), Deselect all
42240 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.09,y=85.79


I'm not familiar with blink-hack... Is this confirmed or just speculation?

Like is it possible that he just blinks his stalker really fast or is it just too fast?
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 00:52:34
February 01 2013 00:52 GMT
#4632
On February 01 2013 09:42 crbox wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 31 2013 18:55 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 18:34 Sokrates wrote:
Can someone check out this replay please, it confuses me:

http://drop.sc/300672

Check from 10:45-11:20, it seems like he is switching on his blinkhack at the start of the fight (stalkers dont seem to be selected) and the he swtiches his hack off and blinks manually.

This guy was gm and is now highmasters.


Possible blink hack??? Viewing in game, even on normal speed, looks fine though. All the rest of the blinking through the game through to the end all look legit.

42040 DeathEnD Hotkey Select 1
42072 DeathEnD Deselect all
42076 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=75.43
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=76.63
42084 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.48,y=88.66
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=77.78
42132 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514), Deselect all
42144 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.36,y=84.63
42164 DeathEnD Select Stalker (10580), Deselect all
42168 DeathEnD Deselect all
42184 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514)
42228 DeathEnD Select Stalker (205e4), Deselect all
42240 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.09,y=85.79


I'm not familiar with blink-hack... Is this confirmed or just speculation?

Like is it possible that he just blinks his stalker really fast or is it just too fast?


Let Nunez look at it, Im just saving him the inquiry time. Im asking more than telling in this case. The rest of my comments are very clear, as noted.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 01:23:45
February 01 2013 01:20 GMT
#4633
On February 01 2013 00:46 Wormi wrote:
Hacker: GhoSTanubis
Server: EU
League: Master (mid-high; last season: diamond)
Replay: http://drop.sc/300920+ Show Spoiler +


sends a scoutingprobe in my base, but never uses it to scout. when it leaves, he still doesn´t know if i took a 2nd gas or not.

he reacts to everything i do, of course without seeing anything.
-army movement (my scouting probe and warpin pylon found immediatly; 1st phoenix fight- he sends his right to my phoenixes; my guys move out, he cancels his nexus)
- buildings (robo&obs just in time to counter my dt)

i don´t use sc2gears. maybe one of you can check for impossible commands.


Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/24980/2/GhoSTanubis/

Confirmed map and production tab hack
5:28 "Finds" hidden probe and pylon
6:57 Sends his phoenix and looks at opponents unrevealed phoenix through fog of war.
7:43 Builds and cancels nexus immediately as push from opponent approaches (minimap)
8:03 Looks and moves to location of phoenix again
10:20 looks at army under pretext of stalker pressure
10:57 looks at main and army through fog of war
11:02 looks at army through fog of war (moving)
Places Robo after opponent places twilight, and later gets immortal and observer (for detection) as Opponent gets DT's.
11:37 Looks at army staging for attack, and pylon placed.

Obvious map hacker.

[[ on a side note, I initially thought it was spaceworm that was hacking, being master league with 65 APM and all. ]]
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 01:52:43
February 01 2013 01:50 GMT
#4634
On January 31 2013 19:41 NoStAL- wrote:
Hi,

What u think about this rep:

http://drop.sc/300878

He was top dia, now top master with 50 apm, how? I think he is hacker

Nick of hacker: saloed

He destroy proxy pylon without scout, just send a stalker to my pylon
He no scout
He send warprism to my base without scoutXD!

Whats ur opinion?^^ I think its pretty obv


Name: Soloed
League: Master
Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/752244/2/saloed/

Notes: 5:48 - "finds" proxy pylon with first stalker. No other gross indicators of vision map hacking.

Possible autoprobe for Nunez to confirm.

6816 saloed Select Nexus (102a4), Deselect all
6816 saloed Train Probe
6816 saloed Select Probe (102b0), Deselect all

10464 saloed Select Nexus (102a4), Deselect all
10464 saloed Train Probe
10464 saloed Select Probe (102a8), Deselect all

11868 saloed Select Nexus (102a4), Deselect all
11868 saloed Train Probe
11868 saloed Select Probe (102a8), Deselect all

41632 saloed Select Nexus (102a4), Deselect all
41632 saloed Train Probe
41632 saloed Select Robotics Facility (103a0), Deselect all
41632 saloed Hotkey Select 4


Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 01 2013 01:53 GMT
#4635
hi guys! i am a bit busy atm with univ, but i will update the thread as soon as i find the time.
yes, that is definite autoprobe grimmy.
thanks for helping me out.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
February 01 2013 18:05 GMT
#4636
happy bday nunez!

anyone who understands sc2gears can confirm if Dakkon is hacking in that post page 231? I think he should be on the confirmed map hackers list.
oo
ChrisFreak
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany13 Posts
February 01 2013 19:25 GMT
#4637
Hi all

HACKER: Thylacine
SERVER: EU
LEAGUE: Mid-High Master
REPLAY: http://drop.sc/301273

Entombed Valley,he builds proxy 2 Gate in my base without scouting my location.Afterwards he's going DT and checking my base without any vision,calling that i didnt have a robotics or a forge building.
Key timings:
- Probe Scout
- 9:08 (Checking my base without any vision,calling me not having robotis or forge)

I want to excuse for all flames i wrote that game,but i'm just afraid of the high amout of maphackers from NA starting to play on EU because of global play.Please check this guy!
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 23:50:22
February 01 2013 23:38 GMT
#4638
On January 31 2013 18:55 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 18:34 Sokrates wrote:
Can someone check out this replay please, it confuses me:

http://drop.sc/300672

Check from 10:45-11:20, it seems like he is switching on his blinkhack at the start of the fight (stalkers dont seem to be selected) and the he swtiches his hack off and blinks manually.

This guy was gm and is now highmasters.


Possible blink hack??? Viewing in game, even on normal speed, looks fine though. All the rest of the blinking through the game through to the end all look legit.

42040 DeathEnD Hotkey Select 1
42072 DeathEnD Deselect all
42076 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=75.43
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=76.63
42084 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.48,y=88.66
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=77.78
42132 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514), Deselect all
42144 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.36,y=84.63
42164 DeathEnD Select Stalker (10580), Deselect all
42168 DeathEnD Deselect all
42184 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514)
42228 DeathEnD Select Stalker (205e4), Deselect all
42240 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.09,y=85.79


The thing is that you cant even seem him clicking or selecting the stalker, you only see that the stalker is slected when it has blinked back, i dont think anyone is so fast that you dont even see him clicking/selecting the stalker and then blinking it back. What timetable is that on the leftside? That just seems inhumanly fast...
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 02 2013 00:35 GMT
#4639
On February 02 2013 04:25 ChrisFreak wrote:
Hi all

HACKER: Thylacine
SERVER: EU
LEAGUE: Mid-High Master
REPLAY: http://drop.sc/301273
+ Show Spoiler +

Entombed Valley,he builds proxy 2 Gate in my base without scouting my location.Afterwards he's going DT and checking my base without any vision,calling that i didnt have a robotics or a forge building.
Key timings:
- Probe Scout
- 9:08 (Checking my base without any vision,calling me not having robotis or forge)

I want to excuse for all flames i wrote that game,but i'm just afraid of the high amout of maphackers from NA starting to play on EU because of global play.Please check this guy!


Hacker Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3095538/1/Thylacine/

Thank you for your replay. Player Thylacine confirmed map hacking. Admits to as much in game.
Chat:
00:02:13 - Thylacine to ALL: umad sir
00:02:29 - Thylacine to ALL: gg
00:02:32 - Thylacine to ALL: HAX
00:02:34 - Thylacine to ALL: LOL

Obvious map hacking confirmed.

0:08 Blind probe moved to hiding place in opponents main on 4 player map (2 possible spawn positions)
0:41 move command for probe again into corner, no scout
0:47 Looks at empty main (nexus only so far) Pans across main, drops proxy pylon in natural behind minerals Blind.
1:23 Looks at nexus
2:53 Looks at cyber core
6:51 Looks at main nexus
9:09 Looks at main (Thylacine teching to DT's) and announces in chat the following:
00:06:38 - Thylacine to ALL: DTs inc
00:06:39 - Thylacine to ALL: hf
00:06:45 - Thylacine to ALL: no forge or oBs
00:06:46 - Thylacine to ALL: hahaha
00:06:46 - Thylacine to ALL: :D

Appears not his first time reported to this thread.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 00:38:31
February 02 2013 00:37 GMT
#4640
On February 02 2013 08:38 Sokrates wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 31 2013 18:55 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 18:34 Sokrates wrote:
Can someone check out this replay please, it confuses me:

http://drop.sc/300672

Check from 10:45-11:20, it seems like he is switching on his blinkhack at the start of the fight (stalkers dont seem to be selected) and the he swtiches his hack off and blinks manually.

This guy was gm and is now highmasters.


Possible blink hack??? Viewing in game, even on normal speed, looks fine though. All the rest of the blinking through the game through to the end all look legit.

42040 DeathEnD Hotkey Select 1
42072 DeathEnD Deselect all
42076 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=75.43
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=76.63
42084 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.48,y=88.66
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=77.78
42132 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514), Deselect all
42144 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.36,y=84.63
42164 DeathEnD Select Stalker (10580), Deselect all
42168 DeathEnD Deselect all
42184 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514)
42228 DeathEnD Select Stalker (205e4), Deselect all
42240 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.09,y=85.79


The thing is that you cant even seem him clicking or selecting the stalker, you only see that the stalker is slected when it has blinked back, i dont think anyone is so fast that you dont even see him clicking/selecting the stalker and then blinking it back. What timetable is that on the leftside? That just seems inhumanly fast...


Those are the frames (not seconds) for the replay. And yeah, that is very fast. It's generally impossible to do about 4 or more things in the same frame, other than panning the screen (move screen) But its more of the content. For instance, you cannot blink stalker without having it selected. Selecting your nexus and blinking a stalker is not possible, as is having control of a building or army, and building a probe at a nexus off screen.
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