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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 00:49:58
February 02 2013 00:49 GMT
#4641
On February 02 2013 09:37 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 08:38 Sokrates wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 31 2013 18:55 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 18:34 Sokrates wrote:
Can someone check out this replay please, it confuses me:

http://drop.sc/300672

Check from 10:45-11:20, it seems like he is switching on his blinkhack at the start of the fight (stalkers dont seem to be selected) and the he swtiches his hack off and blinks manually.

This guy was gm and is now highmasters.


Possible blink hack??? Viewing in game, even on normal speed, looks fine though. All the rest of the blinking through the game through to the end all look legit.

42040 DeathEnD Hotkey Select 1
42072 DeathEnD Deselect all
42076 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=75.43
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=76.63
42084 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.48,y=88.66
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=77.78
42132 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514), Deselect all
42144 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.36,y=84.63
42164 DeathEnD Select Stalker (10580), Deselect all
42168 DeathEnD Deselect all
42184 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514)
42228 DeathEnD Select Stalker (205e4), Deselect all
42240 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.09,y=85.79


The thing is that you cant even seem him clicking or selecting the stalker, you only see that the stalker is slected when it has blinked back, i dont think anyone is so fast that you dont even see him clicking/selecting the stalker and then blinking it back. What timetable is that on the leftside? That just seems inhumanly fast...


Those are the frames (not seconds) for the replay. And yeah, that is very fast. It's generally impossible to do about 4 or more things in the same frame, other than panning the screen (move screen) But its more of the content. For instance, you cannot blink stalker without having it selected. Selecting your nexus and blinking a stalker is not possible, as is having control of a building or army, and building a probe at a nexus off screen.



Yeah sure makes sense, but couldnt that selection be emulated by a hack? Screenlocking is also a method of conceiling a maphacker. Just wondering...

Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 01:05:31
February 02 2013 01:04 GMT
#4642
On February 02 2013 09:49 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 09:37 Grimmyman123 wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:38 Sokrates wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 31 2013 18:55 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 18:34 Sokrates wrote:
Can someone check out this replay please, it confuses me:

http://drop.sc/300672

Check from 10:45-11:20, it seems like he is switching on his blinkhack at the start of the fight (stalkers dont seem to be selected) and the he swtiches his hack off and blinks manually.

This guy was gm and is now highmasters.


Possible blink hack??? Viewing in game, even on normal speed, looks fine though. All the rest of the blinking through the game through to the end all look legit.

42040 DeathEnD Hotkey Select 1
42072 DeathEnD Deselect all
42076 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=75.43
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=76.63
42084 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.48,y=88.66
42084 DeathEnD Move screen x=121.35,y=77.78
42132 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514), Deselect all
42144 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.36,y=84.63
42164 DeathEnD Select Stalker (10580), Deselect all
42168 DeathEnD Deselect all
42184 DeathEnD Select Stalker (40514)
42228 DeathEnD Select Stalker (205e4), Deselect all
42240 DeathEnD Blink (Stalker); target: x=120.09,y=85.79


The thing is that you cant even seem him clicking or selecting the stalker, you only see that the stalker is slected when it has blinked back, i dont think anyone is so fast that you dont even see him clicking/selecting the stalker and then blinking it back. What timetable is that on the leftside? That just seems inhumanly fast...


Those are the frames (not seconds) for the replay. And yeah, that is very fast. It's generally impossible to do about 4 or more things in the same frame, other than panning the screen (move screen) But its more of the content. For instance, you cannot blink stalker without having it selected. Selecting your nexus and blinking a stalker is not possible, as is having control of a building or army, and building a probe at a nexus off screen.



Yeah sure makes sense, but couldnt that selection be emulated by a hack? Screenlocking is also a method of conceiling a maphacker. Just wondering...



The frames are from the parsing data. The hack is visible doing its thing in that very same data, its how we visually detect it, and that data is part of the replay. Period. As for the hack being reprogrammed so it "selects" the unit before blinking it is very unlikely due a number of issues, hotkeys, which unit, is the unit being viewed at the time, etc etc.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
February 02 2013 01:07 GMT
#4643
On February 02 2013 04:25 ChrisFreak wrote:
Hi all

HACKER: Thylacine
SERVER: EU
LEAGUE: Mid-High Master
REPLAY: http://drop.sc/301273

Entombed Valley,he builds proxy 2 Gate in my base without scouting my location.Afterwards he's going DT and checking my base without any vision,calling that i didnt have a robotics or a forge building.
Key timings:
- Probe Scout
- 9:08 (Checking my base without any vision,calling me not having robotis or forge)

I want to excuse for all flames i wrote that game,but i'm just afraid of the high amout of maphackers from NA starting to play on EU because of global play.Please check this guy!


Wow wow wow isnt he quite an active user here in TL?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 02 2013 01:08 GMT
#4644
On February 02 2013 10:07 dynwar7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 04:25 ChrisFreak wrote:
Hi all

HACKER: Thylacine
SERVER: EU
LEAGUE: Mid-High Master
REPLAY: http://drop.sc/301273

Entombed Valley,he builds proxy 2 Gate in my base without scouting my location.Afterwards he's going DT and checking my base without any vision,calling that i didnt have a robotics or a forge building.
Key timings:
- Probe Scout
- 9:08 (Checking my base without any vision,calling me not having robotis or forge)

I want to excuse for all flames i wrote that game,but i'm just afraid of the high amout of maphackers from NA starting to play on EU because of global play.Please check this guy!


Wow wow wow isnt he quite an active user here in TL?

He's a banned user.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 01:37:40
February 02 2013 01:34 GMT
#4645
On January 29 2013 04:40 HeafynK wrote:
Hacker name: CamelHumper
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description:
This guy is so obvius... he never scout he know i was going reapers and when i move my reapers he move all his army at the same direction... how is this posible. Well you will notice all those obvius moves easily.

Here is the replay: http://drop.sc/287067


Hacker Name: "CamelHumper
Hacker Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1427423/1/CamelHumper/
This replay is 40 days old. Why submitting now? The subject hacker has not played this account this season at all.
In the future, do NOT copy and paste your old post from last year, once is enough

Blatant map hacking confirmed. Production and Map hack.

3:45 Moves marine to ede of base - opponent has reaper in production
4:13 Looks through fog at main
4:34 Moves SCVs to intercept reaper with 1 marine at edge of base (close by air on Shakuras)
5:29 Looks at main through fog
6:08 Looks again, longer look
7:22-7:36 Long look around main through fog of war
7:49 Positions and postures for incoming reaper push at edge of base. Push fails and repositions to natural, and hacker blindly repositions to defend natural from reapers.
9:03 Same back and forth to main edge.
10:35 Looks at army and main
10:57 Looks at incoming push
12:00 Looks through fog of war at army mid map
12:21 Looks at army in fog outside his third
13:59 Looks at incoming dropship
15:12 looks at incoming dropship
15:40 looks at expo and main through fog
16:34-16:40 Long look at natual and main through fog
16:45 Again, same as above.

Confirmed map hacker, but has not played on this account since December of 2012.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 00:11:55
February 02 2013 02:02 GMT
#4646
On January 29 2013 11:52 Wanna-be-cool wrote:
Hacker name: llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Masters [Now he got promoted to GM]
Description: I've noticed some obvious known hacker mistakes while I was playing him. He found my pylons as soon as I've placed them and destroy them. Also, I saw the replay, he has never scouted and have no vision on me the entire game. Lastly, he has a "Camera Lock" on so that we can't see where he's looking at. It's way too obvious.

I've played him three times and won once because he's really bad.

Here are very obvious replays:
http://drop.sc/300087 He wins,
http://drop.sc/300092 I win.
http://drop.sc/300093 He wins.

Thank you for your time.
-GoSuwbc-


Hacker name: llllllllllll NOW known as Nerffy
Hacker profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4165463/1/llllllllllll/
NAME CHANGED: New Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4165463/1/Nerffy/
NA Server

Auto SCV hack and map hack

12824 llllllllllll Select Orbital Command (101fc), Deselect all
12824 llllllllllll Train SCV
12824 llllllllllll Select SCV (10200), Deselect all

15768 llllllllllll Select Orbital Command (101fc), Deselect all
15768 llllllllllll Train SCV
15768 llllllllllll Select Marine x2 (10288,10298), Deselect all

16720 llllllllllll Right click; target: x=92.77,y=41.28
16720 llllllllllll Select Orbital Command (101fc), Deselect all
16720 llllllllllll Train SCV
16720 llllllllllll Select SCV (2021c), Deselect all

18196 llllllllllll Select Orbital Command (101fc), Deselect all
18196 llllllllllll Train SCV
18196 llllllllllll Select Marine (102bc), Deselect all

28760 llllllllllll Select Orbital Command (101fc), Deselect all
28760 llllllllllll Train SCV
28760 llllllllllll Select Barracks x3 (1024c,102b4,102c0), Deselect all
28884 llllllllllll Select Orbital Command (1029c), Deselect all
28884 llllllllllll Train SCV
28884 llllllllllll Select Barracks x3 (1024c,102b4,102c0), Deselect all

3:45 Looks at probe at tower through fog of war
4:03 Microing marines outside of vision, vision seems cockeyed. CAMERA LOCK ON WHOLE GAME
9:26 Finds hidden pylon at high ground 4th (Ohana)
9:56 - Finds another hidden pylon next at low ground 4th
10:26 Finds another hidden pylon on high ground edge of opponents 4th
15:01 Looks at natural and ramp of opponent.

** Note, replay plays very odd and is hard to watch from hackers perspective because camera lock is on the whole game, and the field of vision only changes from time to time. A good amount of the Micro is outside of the players view. **
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 02 2013 02:25 GMT
#4647
On January 29 2013 12:27 wrekonize wrote:
Hacker name: Furious (protoss)
Server: NA
League: Gold
Description: The map hack is most obvious around half time, when he instantly reacts to my overlord drop without any vision.

http://www22.zippyshare.com/v/11735214/file.html


Name: Furious
League Platinum
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4176279/1/Furious/
Server: NA

Map hacking

6:46 - looks at zerg 3rd through fog
Techs to robo and archon blind (no scouting)
10:40 Looks at roaches outside base
14:07 Looks at overlord drop through fog of war and responds to defend
14:17 Looks at drop again moving up side of map
16:00 Looks directly at, and attacks into zerg army mid map, no vision.
17:04 Looks at roaches mid map
18:18 Looks at roaches again
19:15 Looks at stash of overlords behind island expo (entombed valley)
19:35 Looks at overlords, then looks at roaches at zergs 4th base, then looks at infestors at zergs ramp.

Obvious map hacking. No worker production hack evident.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 02 2013 02:52 GMT
#4648
On January 30 2013 03:45 HydrOPoneY wrote:
Hi Guys I just played a game against someone very suspicious (i'm sorry for my poor english mistakes which i could do)
Maybe hacker : Makaveli
Server : EU
League master.

cancel his gateway for a forge whithout seing anything maybe production hack and then at 4.min approximatly looking in my base if you can help me to comfirme if he hacks or not thx

edit : he always knows where i move my army.

here is the replay :D : http://drop.sc/300513

have a good day


Name: Makaveli
Profile: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3343761/1/Makaveli/
Server: EU
League: Masters

Production tab hack and map hack

1:53 Blind gateway cancel and builds forge in response to forge by opponent
2:42 Looks at opponents main
7:32 looks in main
9:44 peeks at enemy outside natural
Expands blidly behind enemy's expand, though stalkers near natural
10:06 peeks at enemy stalkers and blinks into army target firing single stalker
17:02 Cancels 2nd expo as army approaches, no vision of army

No scouting entire game, only base vision is at start of match with a feigned cannon rush and a cancelled pylon.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 03:28:48
February 02 2013 03:25 GMT
#4649
On January 30 2013 04:36 Extenz wrote:
Hacker name: llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Plat but Master MMR
Description: Opens 2 gate without seeing my proxy gate, drops cyber as soon as i do instead of keeping zealots production to defend, he said he doesnt play standard and does 2 gate, but his match history doesn't say so.

Replay: http://drop.sc/300524


On January 30 2013 04:44 Chim4ira wrote:
Same as Extenz got hacked by the same

name:llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Plat but Master MMR
Description: 2 gate proxy on entombed valley completely blind, then switch to stalkers.

Replay: http://drop.sc/300525


Name:llllllllllll
Server: NA
League: Plat though Master MMR
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3672050/1/llllllllllll/

I've watched both replays.
Replay #300524 didn't have the usual map peeks or distinct tells of a map hacker. His "scouting" for the proxy 2gate was visibly bogus, and his actual scouting of the location was via his Queue attack with zealots via the Minimap, which is a tell in itself.

Replay #300525 as follows
1:08 Pylon on low ground outside opponent natural, Blind
1:54 Blind 2 gate proxy, gates on high ground in opponent natural.
5:05 and 5:47 Queues A move on probe to try and "find" the probe just outside his main at the bottom of his ramp. First time fails, sends a second probe 40 seconds later to address the probe he has no vision of (possible threat of retaliation cannon rush)

Exceedingly suspicious behavior. No other replays on drop.sc for this account, BRAND new account with 47 games played.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
February 02 2013 03:44 GMT
#4650
Name: IIIIIIIIIIII
Server: EU
League: Master

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2625064/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/

Production tab hack and maphack

Replay: http://drop.sc/301400

Goes pool first in response to me building a second rax. Starts a spine and builds 8 lings as my first marines get rallied across the map without scouting anything. Responds to my marines being close to entering his natural by pulling back his lings without having seen them at all. After the first phase of my two rax is over he looks into the fog of war where my raxes are built and rallies his units directly to this position. Still loses the game.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
TheKhyira
Profile Joined May 2012
115 Posts
February 02 2013 18:07 GMT
#4651
So I had the unfortunate luck to play another hacker, it's quite annoying =/

Anyways the replay can be found at http://drop.sc/301559 and his bnet profile is: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4165463/1/llllllllllll/

The maphack is pretty obvious; he does everything blind, adjusts his build accordingly to mine, traps army with no vision, puts down autoturret preemptively before gaining vision, has perfect timing on viking/raven vs banshee, catches the first banshee on the side of the map (adjusts viking patch to intercept), takes map control when i withdraw, has his screen stuck on the same location in his base A LOT while moving around units and buildings somewhere else....I mean just watch the replay from his perspective and then hope this piece of **** is out of sc2 real soon.

If need be I can give a detailed timestamp vs action report but it's quite obvious and really sad.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
February 02 2013 21:41 GMT
#4652
On February 03 2013 03:07 TheKhyira wrote:
So I had the unfortunate luck to play another hacker, it's quite annoying =/

Anyways the replay can be found at http://drop.sc/301559 and his bnet profile is: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4165463/1/llllllllllll/

The maphack is pretty obvious; he does everything blind, adjusts his build accordingly to mine, traps army with no vision, puts down autoturret preemptively before gaining vision, has perfect timing on viking/raven vs banshee, catches the first banshee on the side of the map (adjusts viking patch to intercept), takes map control when i withdraw, has his screen stuck on the same location in his base A LOT while moving around units and buildings somewhere else....I mean just watch the replay from his perspective and then hope this piece of **** is out of sc2 real soon.

If need be I can give a detailed timestamp vs action report but it's quite obvious and really sad.

Got the same guy and the camera movement doesnt make sense blind viking and doesnt even attempt a single drop because he knows i went blink first ^^ http://drop.sc/301612
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
February 02 2013 21:45 GMT
#4653
oh he showed up in my chat and blackmailed me to not ban him otherwise he would snipe me and continue maphacking I wished him the best of luck in his life and that if he wanted more attention to get a Psychiatrist hopefully he listens ^^
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
February 03 2013 00:10 GMT
#4654
Thanks TheKhyira and desrow, a previous replay has already been submitted and analysed and confirmed. I'm sure that Nunez will add him soon to the main OP list.

He's changed names.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4165463/1/Nerffy/
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
February 03 2013 07:31 GMT
#4655
On January 22 2013 12:03 chris2423 wrote:
http://sc2ranks.com/us/3071144/sovereignone
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3071144/1/sovereignone/

Hacker name: sovereignone

Server: US

League: EDIT: demoted from masters to diamond )))

Description: pretty sure he never confirms where our base is before leaving probe at natural, but he could just be bad, seems to react to army pushing at end, but doesnt actually get into a position to do anything, selects entire army at the end and blinks individual stalkers, some of them blinking in retarded direction

replay:http://drop.sc/297498


Hacker Name: sovereignone
server: MA
league: masters
description: goes nexus first to my hatch first, blindly cannons my third without seeing my hatchery. goes quick 3rd after i stop making drones thinking hes all inning. hasnt scouted all game, and towards the end of game he blindly goes up ramp to my 4th and uses gaurdian shield for spines.

Replay : http://drop.sc/301775
terrible, terrible, damage
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 15:32:41
February 03 2013 15:30 GMT
#4656
Name: Hippofarmer
Server: NA
League: Highmasters

I was always sure that this guy was obviously maphacking but i was too lazy watching the replays. Now i played vs him again and there was a thing that was really obvious so i had to review it. He is overall a really bad player, and i became suspicious the 2nd time i played vs him.
8:50: Spots a nydus he cannot see and runs to it with all of his probes.


http://drop.sc/301853
banelingz
Profile Joined February 2013
United States1 Post
February 03 2013 16:12 GMT
#4657
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder

User was banned for this post.
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
February 03 2013 16:25 GMT
#4658
To be honest your first post and
"soar loser plz try harder"
doesn't sound good either.

Also why are you checking the thread?
kinda weird to stumble upon it.
checking to see if something comes up?

Just my 2cents.
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 16:32:09
February 03 2013 16:27 GMT
#4659
On February 04 2013 01:12 banelingz wrote:
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder



You can only hear him once he is done you genius :D. So i assume you are hacking the moment you started playing this game, otherwise you would know this.

On February 04 2013 01:25 SoOJuuu wrote:
To be honest your first post and
"soar loser plz try harder"
doesn't sound good either.

Also why are you checking the thread?
kinda weird to stumble upon it.
checking to see if something comes up?

Just my 2cents.



I sent him the link to this thread since i accused him for hacking a lot earlier (i knew he was hacking i had no proof for it).
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
February 03 2013 16:37 GMT
#4660
On February 04 2013 01:12 banelingz wrote:
I am HippoFarmer and in my defence you can hear nydus and i knew he had ovie in that corner so obviously gonna go there GJ soar loser plz try harder

Bullshit.

I just watched the replay from your perspective and you heard NOTHING, you just happened to pull probes as soon as the nydus was started out of your vision.

Also I wouldn't call someone a "sore loser" when you 3 pylon wall them, it's really abusing the maps that Blizzard uses. Especially when it's pretty clear that you maphack.

It's a little suspicious how right when the hydra den starts the colo bay goes down, but that could be luck.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
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