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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#1701
I'm just glad IdrA is going to stop focusing on the negative parts of his career and start building on something positive.

He still has to play a shit ton to be a premier caster, but without the pressure of living up to the expectations of fans and the community to 'be the best', hopefully he'll enjoy the process more.

GLHF IdrA.

PS. Bring back IMBALANCED! LOL.

Shadow Sylph
Profile Joined December 2010
United States98 Posts
May 12 2013 02:33 GMT
#1702
I thought this was a pretty amazing interview and although Real Talk started out as sort of a biographical show where the community could learn a lot more about their favorite members I like this format a lot.

I think there would be a lot of value gained to have more interviews like this, pure E-Sports journalism at it's best. It's current news, it's exciting because so, and people can actually get informed about what is going on. Also the 1v1 format of the interview really helps it stay on track and not become a silly crossfire where the real issues and points get lost.

Good job JP, thank you so much.
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
May 12 2013 02:36 GMT
#1703
Great interview.

I am a bit sad he won't be competing anymore, but he has always been an excellent commentator both on stream and at live events. Really looking forward to replay packs and hopefully more commenting over ladder games.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 02:42:19
May 12 2013 02:38 GMT
#1704
another OK interview and stuff, but JP still needs to work on actually engaging his guest rather than just reading from a list of questions. idra comes out with an apparently contradictory pair of statements; (paraphrased) 'the people who come to my stream just to see the rage are the fucks' and 'we are just entertainers, results dont matter'. but JP doesnt press on it. how does idra see a difference between the people there for the 'excitement' and the people there for the rage, arent they intertwined? or how can idra be concerned about the attitudes/personality of the so called fucks, when he is the king of laughing at other peoples misfortune e.g. high-fiving incontrol while they attack destiny.

im sure it will be clear in 24 hours or so that this will be the highest viewed content JP has put out in a while, carried by the idra storm. but this is an opportunity for jp to attract new viewers to his channel, but if he cant do anymore than be a wall for the guest to bounce their voice off of, then they will quickly drift away when the guest isnt as interesting as idra.
KillahKonceptz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada93 Posts
May 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#1705
For some reason, thinking of IdrA as a caster reminds me of Jeff Van Gundy, high level commentary and analysis and calling out whatever he doesn't like about the game.
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Rocor
Profile Joined January 2011
United States55 Posts
May 12 2013 02:45 GMT
#1706
On May 12 2013 11:38 turdburgler wrote:
another OK interview and stuff, but JP still needs to work on actually engaging his guest rather than just reading from a list of questions. idra comes out with an apparently contradictory pair of statements; (paraphrased) 'the people who come to my stream just to see the rage are the fucks' and 'we are just entertainers, results dont matter'. but JP doesnt press on it. how does idra see a difference between the people there for the 'excitement' and the people there for the rage, arent they intertwined? or how can idra be concerned about the attitudes/personality of the so called fucks, when he is the king of laughing at other peoples misfortune e.g. high-fiving incontrol while they attack destiny.

im sure it will be clear in 24 hours or so that this will be the highest viewed content JP has put out in a while, carried by the idra storm. but this is an opportunity for jp to attract new viewers to his channel, but if he cant do anymore than be a wall for the guest to bounce their voice off of, then they will quickly drift away when the guest isnt as interesting as idra.



great interview !

I disagree with the above post though. I like JP's style. I think he was digging deep enough. That's probably one of the reasons that he got the interview in the first place.

Keep going JP and IDRA !
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ECA.BruTATroN
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States282 Posts
May 12 2013 02:52 GMT
#1707
On May 12 2013 11:43 KillahKonceptz wrote:
For some reason, thinking of IdrA as a caster reminds me of Jeff Van Gundy, high level commentary and analysis and calling out whatever he doesn't like about the game.



Haha. The foresight here is amazing. Thank you
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KillahKonceptz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada93 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 02:56:27
May 12 2013 02:55 GMT
#1708
On May 12 2013 11:52 imbaSouL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 11:43 KillahKonceptz wrote:
For some reason, thinking of IdrA as a caster reminds me of Jeff Van Gundy, high level commentary and analysis and calling out whatever he doesn't like about the game.



Haha. The foresight here is amazing. Thank you


No problem :D, it was just the first thing to came to mind lol :D
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 12 2013 02:56 GMT
#1709
On May 12 2013 11:45 Rocor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 11:38 turdburgler wrote:
another OK interview and stuff, but JP still needs to work on actually engaging his guest rather than just reading from a list of questions. idra comes out with an apparently contradictory pair of statements; (paraphrased) 'the people who come to my stream just to see the rage are the fucks' and 'we are just entertainers, results dont matter'. but JP doesnt press on it. how does idra see a difference between the people there for the 'excitement' and the people there for the rage, arent they intertwined? or how can idra be concerned about the attitudes/personality of the so called fucks, when he is the king of laughing at other peoples misfortune e.g. high-fiving incontrol while they attack destiny.

im sure it will be clear in 24 hours or so that this will be the highest viewed content JP has put out in a while, carried by the idra storm. but this is an opportunity for jp to attract new viewers to his channel, but if he cant do anymore than be a wall for the guest to bounce their voice off of, then they will quickly drift away when the guest isnt as interesting as idra.



great interview !

I disagree with the above post though. I like JP's style. I think he was digging deep enough. That's probably one of the reasons that he got the interview in the first place.

Keep going JP and IDRA !

I enjoy JP. However I agree with the constructive criticism he got with that post. When Idra announced he wasn't going to be a player anymore but likely commentate. The immediate follow up shouldn't be. Well damn, that questions was a little further down my list. As that announcement from Idra, is likely the most captivating part of the whole thing.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 02:58:50
May 12 2013 02:58 GMT
#1710
I'm so glad he's stepping down. He's hated SC2 for such a long time, I'm glad he doesn't have to play it professionally anymore.

Also props for still repping BW.
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 03:01:37
May 12 2013 03:01 GMT
#1711
On May 12 2013 11:43 KillahKonceptz wrote:
For some reason, thinking of IdrA as a caster reminds me of Jeff Van Gundy, high level commentary and analysis and calling out whatever he doesn't like about the game.


Yes. I love Jeff Van Gundy's commentary so much it makes me miss him as a coach

Van Gundy was the master of turning lemon players into play-off teams.
mjnbowlgod
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
May 12 2013 03:06 GMT
#1712
JP you should set up a real talk with Alex garfield and talk about EG and there future, the direction they want to take.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
May 12 2013 03:24 GMT
#1713
I love JVG's commentating, and Idra totally fits the mold. That would be fantastical.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
May 12 2013 03:32 GMT
#1714
Great real talk, love these JP. As for the whole IdrA thing. I am glad he did this it cleared up a lot of stuff. I am sad idra won't be competing anymore, but if you aren't happy it is good to move on to find something that makes you happy. I think IdrA will have a bright future, and who knows maybe when he can just be himself he will get better results. Hope DJwheat can keep him on Inside the game. And also I personally think the SC community is too sensitive and I don't like it.
Chylo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States220 Posts
May 12 2013 03:43 GMT
#1715
Well done to JP and well deserved to have idra's trust to do a solid balanced interview.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
May 12 2013 03:43 GMT
#1716
I'm glad he was real with the demuslim talk and confirmed that they do not like each other cause some people thought it was not that bad and just an act for show. They genuinely don't like each other as confirmed by idra.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 12 2013 03:46 GMT
#1717
JP really does a fantastic job with these.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
LeGeNDz
Profile Joined November 2010
60 Posts
May 12 2013 04:20 GMT
#1718
IdrA summed it up and clarified well what he meant and defended his case just as I what I figured he meant. I was watching his stream that day he made the comment to that random guy and I sympathized with his frustration from that cheesy play, intentional cheesy play at that because those people know it irritates idra and in addition he makes a good point in comparison when he brings up the guy who was playing counter-strike people need to get some thicker skin. People get offended at anything these days or rather are just a bunch of drama mongering snitches as idra calls them which spot on. They love their witch hunts and throwing players who are in the spot light on to their altars of sacrifice because you all feed off this drama yet we have some of the goriest drama shows on public tv and some of the most perverse things in media but nobody gives a hoot. This is one of the most hypocritical times in our culture and it shows.
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
May 12 2013 04:28 GMT
#1719
An excellent interview, thank you JP! Obviously, its sad to see Idra leave not only EG but also the competitive scene, but it is obvious he hasn't been happy for a long time and there was no clear way out from there. I really hope that the tournament organizers jump on Idra as a caster because of how good he is to have as part of a team. He would also be an excellent addition to the Meta since Artosis likes to spend some time going into the details of how people play and think about the game. I just wish this had happened under better circumstances. It was interesting to have heard him mention SirScoots because I was having that exact conversation with my GF today where I wondered if this was reflective of how EG was managed differently now that Scoots was gone.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 04:46:08
May 12 2013 04:42 GMT
#1720
On May 12 2013 11:38 turdburgler wrote:
another OK interview and stuff, but JP still needs to work on actually engaging his guest rather than just reading from a list of questions. idra comes out with an apparently contradictory pair of statements; (paraphrased) 'the people who come to my stream just to see the rage are the fucks' and 'we are just entertainers, results dont matter'. but JP doesnt press on it. how does idra see a difference between the people there for the 'excitement' and the people there for the rage, arent they intertwined? or how can idra be concerned about the attitudes/personality of the so called fucks, when he is the king of laughing at other peoples misfortune e.g. high-fiving incontrol while they attack destiny.

im sure it will be clear in 24 hours or so that this will be the highest viewed content JP has put out in a while, carried by the idra storm. but this is an opportunity for jp to attract new viewers to his channel, but if he cant do anymore than be a wall for the guest to bounce their voice off of, then they will quickly drift away when the guest isnt as interesting as idra.

Ya I agree. One moment he says this is about a business/entertainment and then "anyone who comes to watch my rage is a fuck." Well, since his games -- as he acknowledges himself -- are not about quality but about entertainment they are also consumers of his product.
Also you have Idra going "There was a lot of other stuff I said that should have gotten me fired..." how is there not a follow up of "So you knew you were in a danger of being fired?" or "So EG has been too lenient with you? "Do you wish EG had a more structured system of punishment for you so you were clear when you crossed the line?" What about "I see nothing wrong with leaving when I did"...why not ask -- at the very least -- "Why didnt you gg Polt?"

But I think the reason why JP does this is because of his friendship with Idra. By going into an ultra-structured question and answer period with almost no follow up, JP maintains objectivity and at the same time Idra does get the last word so there is neither tension nor appearances of JP just covering his buddy.
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