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Cubu
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 12 2013 15:21 baldgye wrote: It's not at all deflecting and it's what mainstream teams do for there players, espeically there highest paid players. IdrA not enjoying the game is a problem they probably couldn't fix, but his actions are a result of poor management. Had IdrA know those comments would have got him fired he wouldn't have made them, had he been in a better place mentally he plays those games vs Polt out and life goes on. Uhhhhhnnnn I don't know if that's fair. They warned IdrA plenty of times. And honestly, most employers don't give ultimatums — which is what you or IdrA is suggesting would be fair. EG is not his parents. They're not going to say, "Do this, or else!" Employers shouldn't have to blackmail their employees into doing their job. If you're the kind of person that waits around for someone to give them an ultimatum before choosing to take your job seriously, than you probably don't deserve or want that job in the first place. There's a long line of really talented players out there that would happily take IdrA's place, and you wouldn't even have to tell them that what IdrA did was wrong. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
On May 12 2013 15:40 Defacer wrote: Uhhhhhnnnn I don't know if that's fair. They warned IdrA plenty of times. And honestly, most employers don't give ultimatums — which is what you or IdrA is suggesting would be fair. EG is not his parents. They're not going to say, "Do this, or else!" Employers shouldn't have to blackmail their employees into doing their job. If you're the kind of person that waits around for someone to give them an ultimatum before choosing to take your job seriously, than you probably don't deserve or want that job in the first place. There's a long line of really talented players out there that would happily take IdrA's place, and you wouldn't even have to tell them that what IdrA did was wrong. I have a job, I know what is and isn't acceptable to say to customers, clients or anyone else while I represent my employers, IdrA didn't seemingly have any clue (as he said as much in the interview)... EG not making there players aware of boundaries seems like a pretty large error on there part. I'm not defending IdrA and I'm not a fan of his at all, but this was a seemingly inevitable event helped in no small way by the mismanagement of EG | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8744 Posts
On May 12 2013 15:55 baldgye wrote: I have a job, I know what is and isn't acceptable to say to customers, clients or anyone else while I represent my employers, IdrA didn't seemingly have any clue (as he said as much in the interview)... EG not making there players aware of boundaries seems like a pretty large error on there part. I'm not defending IdrA and I'm not a fan of his at all, but this was a seemingly inevitable event helped in no small way by the mismanagement of EG How was it mismanagement when he _regularly_ received a slap on the wrist where they told him to cut the bad behaviour. In the end he said as much as it was not a big deal - as usual. That's also why he was rather surprised of getting the ax. It just seems somewhere on the way of becoming a progamer he lost his manners. As someone very dependent on sponsors you would think he knew better. Let's see where he goes from here, I actually see him casting for MLG as god knows they really need some premier casters. | ||
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Penev
28528 Posts
I understand people are being sad that Idra decided not to compete anymore but I for one am really looking forward to see him casting. He IS very good at it and his style is a refreshing change to the, well, louder alternatives.. It is good to see that he understands and agrees with EG's decision however I do get the impression that he's quite egocentric and doesn't hold himself to the same standards he holds others to but that doesn't necessarily make him a bad person of course. And I can't be sure about that anyway because, you see, I don't know him at all. Never met him. So benefit of the doubt is applicable. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On May 12 2013 15:32 Sub40APM wrote: Yes, it would. Because his entire explanation was "Well I calculated this completely and here is a perfectly logical reason why I should quit." The question "why didnt you gg then?" raises the issue that either (a) his explanation is an after the fact rationalize and he really was tilted, and so the game wasnt lost, which then gives a stronger bite to the interview in general. or (b) he thought that polt was "cheesing" somehow, because Idra has gg-ed in every major tournament before this or (c) he views all competition on par with ladder (which then raises the legitimacy of giving him an invite by MLG over someone like Demuslim, no matter what their rationalization based on points is.) But JP gave a reasonable explanation why he wasnt able to do so, and thats too bad (its a shame that someone as naturally talented at this as JP doesnt get more resources behind him). its amazing how much you are overthinking this. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On May 12 2013 15:40 Defacer wrote: Uhhhhhnnnn I don't know if that's fair. They warned IdrA plenty of times. And honestly, most employers don't give ultimatums — which is what you or IdrA is suggesting would be fair. EG is not his parents. They're not going to say, "Do this, or else!" Employers shouldn't have to blackmail their employees into doing their job. If you're the kind of person that waits around for someone to give them an ultimatum before choosing to take your job seriously, than you probably don't deserve or want that job in the first place. There's a long line of really talented players out there that would happily take IdrA's place, and you wouldn't even have to tell them that what IdrA did was wrong. I suggest you re-watch it, cause he never said it wasn't fair. He said he didn't expect it because there was no prior warning. That's all. | ||
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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TigerKarl
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On May 12 2013 18:10 cYaN wrote: mp3? Listentoyoutube.com | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
One question I thought was missing though, is how his dislike of the game will affect his future involvement in the scene. It seem a bit weird he'll continue to devote his full time to stream, play fan games and commentate a game he dislike. At least that would be something I'd like to hear him speak to. | ||
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Demonaz
United Kingdom1219 Posts
that comment about 'all a bunch of fucks' though...makes sense the answer given there but man what was he thinking with that hah, could only be perceived one way. | ||
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unbaal
Sweden44 Posts
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On May 12 2013 18:10 cYaN wrote: mp3? you can watch here: | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On May 12 2013 15:37 Cubu wrote: Of all the people in sc2, i never expected idra to play lol, or even enjoy it for that matter. Girlfriends, they get you to do all sorts of things. | ||
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Junichi
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