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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 12 2013 11:02 GMT
#1761
JP, you did very well with this interview, it must have been pretty awkward to ask the tougher questions, considering you are friends with Idra. GL Idra, I've always enjoyed your analytical casting and am glad you want to enter this field

On May 12 2013 15:55 baldgye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 15:40 Defacer wrote:
On May 12 2013 15:21 baldgye wrote:
On May 12 2013 15:14 Canucklehead wrote:
On May 12 2013 15:09 baldgye wrote:
Really seems like EG totally let IdrA down, how did they let the negativity get to him, how did he not know how many fans love him?? And how was he able to only go to one therapist session?! If they picked a bad therapist you find a better one, not just give up.
EG seems almost entirely to blame for being totally incapable of managing IdrA and in creating an environment in which he knew the boundaries and was constantaly aware of his adoring fan base.


As time goes on I have less and less respect for EG and it's management.


Uhhhh this is called deflecting responsibility. EG did the best they could. Just ask scoots on twitter as others have asked. EG could only do so much. They can't babysit idra 24/7. Idra is a man and responsible for his own actions.

You're also forgetting one of the core issues for idra being unhappy. He just didn't like playing sc2 and hated the game itself. That's something EG could never fix.


It's not at all deflecting and it's what mainstream teams do for there players, espeically there highest paid players. IdrA not enjoying the game is a problem they probably couldn't fix, but his actions are a result of poor management. Had IdrA know those comments would have got him fired he wouldn't have made them, had he been in a better place mentally he plays those games vs Polt out and life goes on.


Uhhhhhnnnn I don't know if that's fair. They warned IdrA plenty of times.

And honestly, most employers don't give ultimatums — which is what you or IdrA is suggesting would be fair. EG is not his parents. They're not going to say, "Do this, or else!"

Employers shouldn't have to blackmail their employees into doing their job. If you're the kind of person that waits around for someone to give them an ultimatum before choosing to take your job seriously, than you probably don't deserve or want that job in the first place.

There's a long line of really talented players out there that would happily take IdrA's place, and you wouldn't even have to tell them that what IdrA did was wrong.


I have a job, I know what is and isn't acceptable to say to customers, clients or anyone else while I represent my employers, IdrA didn't seemingly have any clue (as he said as much in the interview)... EG not making there players aware of boundaries seems like a pretty large error on there part.

I'm not defending IdrA and I'm not a fan of his at all, but this was a seemingly inevitable event helped in no small way by the mismanagement of EG

Some things are so painfully obvious that they don't need to be explicitly stated, as they are just part of normal human behavior. I'm sure your employer never literally told you: "Do not say fuck you, fag or retard to our customers. Do not threaten to rape them with a hot iron if they annoy you. Do not wish them to get sick with cancer." and so on. It's just common sense for a grown up to never say things like these.
I'm 100% certain Idra has received multiple warnings by EG, and he said as much on the real talk. Maybe EG as his employer should have been more clear to define limits, but I think they clearly went beyond their responsibilites to help him by hiring a sports psychiatrist etc. It certainly didn't help that Scoots as part of the management seemed to have encouraged him in this behavior, that might be what has thwarted their efforts to change him.
Get off my lawn, young punks
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
May 12 2013 12:09 GMT
#1762
It's funny that JP, that define himself as, what, an "esport and nerd culture content producer" (?) is the best non amateur (meaning that do this professionnally) journalist we have at the moment.
The intro of this mini real talk was awesome, with JP's deep voice and clear explanation.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 12 2013 12:27 GMT
#1763
Seemed like a highly scripted, pre-planned interview as the kickoff of the idra rehabilitation tour, full of non-apology apologies.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
May 12 2013 13:08 GMT
#1764
Good interview. Great to hear Idra pursuing non-playing career instead. MLG already "kind of" offered him to cast MLG, so i'm looking forward to that and hoping it happens. Sad to hear he won't be on ITG anymore though.

Thanks JP! Good luck Greg.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SirScoots
Profile Joined December 2010
United States138 Posts
May 12 2013 15:41 GMT
#1765
It certainly didn't help that Scoots as part of the management seemed to have encouraged him in this behavior, that might be what has thwarted their efforts to change him.


Greg was well aware of what I was ok with and what I was not ok with. We did often joke about the "no GG drama" and some of his trashtalking of opponents. I am fine with both of those things depending on the words used and he was well aware. To think I condoned or encouraged his forum behavior or his insults to Blizzard etc is beyond silly.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
May 12 2013 15:51 GMT
#1766
Scoots surfaces. Thx for clearing that up. Nothing anyone with sense didn't guess already. :D
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 12 2013 15:57 GMT
#1767
On May 13 2013 00:41 SirScoots wrote:
Show nested quote +
It certainly didn't help that Scoots as part of the management seemed to have encouraged him in this behavior, that might be what has thwarted their efforts to change him.


Greg was well aware of what I was ok with and what I was not ok with. We did often joke about the "no GG drama" and some of his trashtalking of opponents. I am fine with both of those things depending on the words used and he was well aware. To think I condoned or encouraged his forum behavior or his insults to Blizzard etc is beyond silly.


people seem to be missing the line between calling someone a piece of shit and telling someone to get cancer ;D
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 16:00:38
May 12 2013 16:00 GMT
#1768
In light of IdrA's interview, it's painfully obvious that IdrA was the kind of employee that mistook a lack of punishment from management as some form of tacit approval or indifference, even when they repeatedly confronted him about it. He himself admits that he felt he was overpaid for what did.

He did what a lot of people do when they start to hate their job — they stop trying and start coasting.

llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2142 Posts
May 12 2013 19:02 GMT
#1769
Wish IdrA good luck with his future. I will support him no matter what. But deep in my heart I hope he will return to competitive. Maybe he will?
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
July 11 2013 22:56 GMT
#1770
Real Talk with Suppy, Part 1

Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
July 11 2013 23:06 GMT
#1771
On July 12 2013 07:56 itmeJP wrote:
Real Talk with Suppy, Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oWyB_5LIOg

Great job JP, really enjoying this! I love the background on your whiteboard btw haha, that Artosis reference!
"Want some? Go get some!"
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 09 2013 08:36 GMT
#1772
Is real talk done with? Any plans to run this show again? It was definitely one of the more interesting shows around.
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
October 09 2013 08:45 GMT
#1773
JP seems to have stepped away from SC2. I doubt that there'll be new SC2-related shows soon. He's mostly producing content in the general gaming segment and of course, he's got his RollPlay series, which are really successful atm.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 09 2013 08:52 GMT
#1774
On October 09 2013 17:45 virpi wrote:
JP seems to have stepped away from SC2. I doubt that there'll be new SC2-related shows soon. He's mostly producing content in the general gaming segment and of course, he's got his RollPlay series, which are really successful atm.


Nuuuuuuuuuuu
What roll play about?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2013 09:16 GMT
#1775
On October 09 2013 17:52 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 17:45 virpi wrote:
JP seems to have stepped away from SC2. I doubt that there'll be new SC2-related shows soon. He's mostly producing content in the general gaming segment and of course, he's got his RollPlay series, which are really successful atm.


Nuuuuuuuuuuu
What roll play about?


It is a Live Stream of a DnD campaign played over webcam and mic.

It features JP, iNControl, LivinPink, MLGRyan (Bregor) and Neal from SC2 ratings as the DM, it is really good stuff
Zerg for Life
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
October 09 2013 09:18 GMT
#1776
It can be found on his youtube channel.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 09 2013 09:23 GMT
#1777
On October 09 2013 18:16 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 17:52 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 09 2013 17:45 virpi wrote:
JP seems to have stepped away from SC2. I doubt that there'll be new SC2-related shows soon. He's mostly producing content in the general gaming segment and of course, he's got his RollPlay series, which are really successful atm.


Nuuuuuuuuuuu
What roll play about?


It is a Live Stream of a DnD campaign played over webcam and mic.

It features JP, iNControl, LivinPink, MLGRyan (Bregor) and Neal from SC2 ratings as the DM, it is really good stuff


They already started 2 additional campaigns by now, actually. One is Dark Heresy (which is Warhammer 40k) and the other is a regular DnD where JP is the DM. It seems to work very well, seeing how he has 3 seperate campaigns going right now who all get very nice numbers.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 01 2013 02:31 GMT
#1778
So I guess this show is never coming back? Even if he doesn't do it with SC2 personalities he could just do stuff like LoL/DotA people and still get plenty of views...
JazzJackrabbit
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1272 Posts
November 01 2013 03:02 GMT
#1779
He said in a past Mailbox that he's not really doing anything eSports related, let alone SC2 related, for the foreseeable future.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
November 01 2013 03:05 GMT
#1780
On November 01 2013 12:02 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
He said in a past Mailbox that he's not really doing anything eSports related, let alone SC2 related, for the foreseeable future.


Yeah I think he was done with with shit from the community and decided it wasn't worth the aggro.
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