Official Real Talk Thread of Realness - Page 72

On August 23 2012 01:46 wei2coolman wrote:

His massive money injection comment was sorta off. There are plenty of small weekly tournaments that still grab 20-30k viewers, easily. Unless the big money injections are increasing amount of content (as opposed to quality); which it isn't. It's not going to wipe out smaller tournaments.

In this past month, Zenith has also been labeled as money-grubbers and described as greedy. To someone who knows the players well, I feel that these remarks are more sad than offensive. More worthy of a facepalm than an angst-filled retort. Prior to forming Zenith, players like hyhy and iceiceice were approached by an organization (that I will not name) to play competitive League of Legends for a monthly salary that exceeds a fresh Singaporean graduate’s starting pay. An offer like this was unprecedented in the history of e-sports in Singapore. Yet the players chose to turn down these offers, because their interests lie with DotA 2 and not League of Legends.

On August 23 2012 14:39 climax wrote:
I will admit, Tobi's Real Talk is my favorite one out all of them, with DJ Wheat and Tasteless in second and third. As a huge dota2 fan, Its great to hear more about tobi's life and his view of LoL and the comp scene since I came from it. Great stuff JP.

On August 25 2012 22:22 Zhou wrote:
The amount of hate for League of Legends is pretty stupid, and vice versa. Honestly, even if LoL is more simple than dota2, I don't think people have the right to say its not worth it because the game isn't complex enough. The same could go for chess technically. The complexity part of it comes down to the minds of the players. We could argue that the progamers of LoL haven't done anything super creative out of League itself; whether its the limitations of the game, or themselves but it's clear there is a community that stands by LoL. While I don't agree with some of the things Riot does to make League of Legends well known, it isn't a secret that they did so well outside of the eSports scene with their business model.

I disagree with Tobi saying that League has no place in eSports. I will agree that it is coming up too fast and might be about money. Every game, or anything competitive for that matter will earn its spot by the people who love to do what they do in their set of interests.

On August 28 2012 15:31 Shocae wrote:



As far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong), chess is highly complex and Vladimir Kramnik was quoted as saying "Chess is an infinitely complex game, which one can play in infinitely numerous and varied ways." From what I understand it is not "infinitely" complex, but in all practical terms it is, until we build some super computer in the year 4462 or something because the amount of information needed to be stored is beyond the 10^100 range (googol).

On August 28 2012 15:59 I_Love_Bacon wrote:


Chess, when compared to the likes of LoL, SC, SC2, Dota, whatever is actually extremely simple. Yes, there are a huge number of possibile outcomes, but I don't even think there is a number fathomable to the number of outcomes any of the aforementioned games can produce. For every move you can make in chess, there are 100x that amount of moves to be made in one of the other games every second of play.

While I obviously don't mean to belittle chess with this statement. It is definitely a complex game, but compared with these types of games it really isn't. As an example, think about several minutes into a game of sc2. You've got say 20 workers, any one of those workers can be issued a new command. Simultaneously, any one of your new buildings can be chosen to create a unit or upgrade. Every current army unit can be chosen to be moved to any of the ten thousand locations on the map they can fit... and all of this is done with incomplete information every second of every game.

On August 28 2012 16:09 Kleinmuuhg wrote:

So you really think chess is easier?
Really?
How come no Sc players tried to get Chess Grandmaster then ?
"Because its boring" - Yeah I figured.

You really have no clue, sorry.

On August 28 2012 16:24 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
No I wont be arguing if your response is to laugh about it anyway. You're free to think what you want. (And Im free to think that your opinion is abosutely donkey).

On August 31 2012 04:16 Anta wrote:
get destiny on a second time to talk about recent happenings

On August 31 2012 04:16 Anta wrote:
get destiny on a second time to talk about recent happenings