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On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found.
wow, you are either in huge denial or you're just flamebaiting for the sake of it.
there is only one account that has that length for barcode, and the same long barcode is seen in both the game against NosSave AND kawaiirice's replay. On top of that, the gameplay is exactly the same in midgame with late 3rd, constant aggression with rallying and same hotkey setup.
sometimes you need to use common sense and observation...
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On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP.
from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk.
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On May 12 2012 18:05 larse wrote:
People, the FPVOD and the replay are different games! In the FPVOD Flash is at the bottom-left while in the replay Flash is at the upper-right.
We know lol
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On May 12 2012 18:08 EonuS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. wow, you are either in huge denial or you're just flamebaiting for the sake of it. there is only one account that has that length for barcode, and the same long barcode is seen in both the game against NosSave AND kawaiirice's replay. On top of that, the gameplay is exactly the same in midgame with late 3rd, constant aggression with rallying and same hotkey setup. sometimes you need to use common sense and observation...
What are you talking about? FPVOD does now reveal Flashs bnet ID so there is nothing to compare with.
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On May 12 2012 18:09 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:08 EonuS wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. wow, you are either in huge denial or you're just flamebaiting for the sake of it. there is only one account that has that length for barcode, and the same long barcode is seen in both the game against NosSave AND kawaiirice's replay. On top of that, the gameplay is exactly the same in midgame with late 3rd, constant aggression with rallying and same hotkey setup. sometimes you need to use common sense and observation... What are you talking about? FPVOD does now reveal Flashs bnet ID so there is nothing to compare with.
fpvod doesn't, but the game match history does
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On May 12 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk.
You cant tell what is that bardcode made of or its precise lenght.
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On May 12 2012 18:10 EonuS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:09 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:08 EonuS wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. wow, you are either in huge denial or you're just flamebaiting for the sake of it. there is only one account that has that length for barcode, and the same long barcode is seen in both the game against NosSave AND kawaiirice's replay. On top of that, the gameplay is exactly the same in midgame with late 3rd, constant aggression with rallying and same hotkey setup. sometimes you need to use common sense and observation... What are you talking about? FPVOD does now reveal Flashs bnet ID so there is nothing to compare with. fpvod doesn't, but the game match history does
And there were go, you cannot possible know if that game match history is from the same account.
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Like I said, FPVOD does not reveal the battle.net ID of Flash so there is NOTHING TO COMPARE.
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On May 12 2012 18:10 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk. You cant tell what is that bardcode made of or its precise lenght.
sure, but you can then screen nossave's account for all games that were played against barcode players on that day of that length, and only one fit the bill.
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On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP.
They found Flash via Battle.net. And linked his direct Battle.net profile which had exactly the same build order (based on the VODs). They didn't do a search for IIIIIII's anyway. They just linked the profile directly to his Battlenet page from SC2.
Unless the match history by chance had almost exactly the same build orders and statistics as the one Flash played, there's almost 99% certainty that it's Flash.
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On May 12 2012 18:13 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:10 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk. You cant tell what is that bardcode made of or its precise lenght. sure, but you can then screen nossave's account for all games that were played against barcode players on that day of that length, and only one fit the bill.
nossave played only one barcode terran that day?
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On May 12 2012 18:14 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. They found Flash via Battle.net. And linked his direct Battle.net profile which had exactly the same build order (based on the VODs). They didn't do a search for IIIIIII's anyway. They just linked the profile directly to his Battlenet page from SC2.
Yeah but that has nothing to do with the name, only build orders. That another guy claimed that we would have had some other proof that we would know flash id
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On May 12 2012 18:14 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:13 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:10 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk. You cant tell what is that bardcode made of or its precise lenght. sure, but you can then screen nossave's account for all games that were played against barcode players on that day of that length, and only one fit the bill. nossave played only one barcode terran that day?
for a game of that length on that map, yes!
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On May 12 2012 18:17 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:14 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:13 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:10 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk. You cant tell what is that bardcode made of or its precise lenght. sure, but you can then screen nossave's account for all games that were played against barcode players on that day of that length, and only one fit the bill. nossave played only one barcode terran that day? for a game of that length on that map, yes!
Cool, but this info has no use because there is nothing to compare because Flashs ID is not published anywhere.
We have only post game result build orders to compare with what we can see from VOD. Thats our only way to estimate the chance how likely it is Flash.
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On May 12 2012 18:19 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:17 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:14 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:13 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:10 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk. You cant tell what is that bardcode made of or its precise lenght. sure, but you can then screen nossave's account for all games that were played against barcode players on that day of that length, and only one fit the bill. nossave played only one barcode terran that day? for a game of that length on that map, yes! Cool, but this info has no use because there is nothing to compare because Flashs ID is not published anywhere. We have only post game result build orders to compare with what we can see from VOD. Thats our only way to estimate the chance how likely it is Flash.
which we've concluded is pretty damn good =] check it out for yourself
doesn't matter if flash's id isn't anywhere, we know from which account that game was played 
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On May 12 2012 18:16 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:14 pdd wrote:On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. They found Flash via Battle.net. And linked his direct Battle.net profile which had exactly the same build order (based on the VODs). They didn't do a search for IIIIIII's anyway. They just linked the profile directly to his Battlenet page from SC2. Yeah but that has nothing to do with the name, only build orders. That another guy claimed that we would have had some other proof that we would know flash id
I did the original comparisons between the FPVOD and NosSave's match history. He played the Flash account on the exact same map, in those exact spawn positions, with a game lasting the exact same time, with every piece of Flash's production matching identically in both food count and in game time between the FPVOD and the postgame build orders tab. Plus, it was played just a few hours before the video was released.
Then factor in that the account has only been actively laddering very recently, with practice games vs KT IDs PGAB, Lizzy and Mind recently played as well.
It's pretty absurd to think it doesn't belong to Flash at this point I think.
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On May 12 2012 18:19 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:17 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:14 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:13 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:10 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk. You cant tell what is that bardcode made of or its precise lenght. sure, but you can then screen nossave's account for all games that were played against barcode players on that day of that length, and only one fit the bill. nossave played only one barcode terran that day? for a game of that length on that map, yes! Cool, but this info has no use because there is nothing to compare because Flashs ID is not published anywhere. We have only post game result build orders to compare with what we can see from VOD. Thats our only way to estimate the chance how likely it is Flash.
Seriously? You think they're putting out replays and mocking up videos in an attempt to mind fuck you?
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On May 12 2012 18:19 Mongolbonjwa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2012 18:17 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:14 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:13 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:10 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:08 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:06 Mongolbonjwa wrote:On May 12 2012 18:03 opterown wrote:On May 12 2012 18:01 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
Please, provide me material where Flashs battle.net ID has been shown with being able to differentiate i´s and L´s so we can compare it to the replay of Kawairice or that unknown player someone found. in the FPVods, flash was playing against NosSave (or someone). What we did was stalk NosSave for recent matches, comparing build orders, to find flash was lllllll. Pretty solid evidence x) The problem with this is, that you cannot know if that name is same as Flashs bnet ID. As far as I know, Flash´s ID is not announced anywhere and you cannot tell what it is made of or hell, you cant even say its lenght for sure from the image of this threads OP. from the picture, you can tell it's a barcode ID. the article also said which date the games were played on, and nossave only had so many games that day to stalk. You cant tell what is that bardcode made of or its precise lenght. sure, but you can then screen nossave's account for all games that were played against barcode players on that day of that length, and only one fit the bill. nossave played only one barcode terran that day? for a game of that length on that map, yes! Cool, but this info has no use because there is nothing to compare because Flashs ID is not published anywhere. We have only post game result build orders to compare with what we can see from VOD. Thats our only way to estimate the chance how likely it is Flash.
Looking through that same IIIIIIIIII SC2 BNet profile found customs played vs
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/3510245/Mind
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2305463/PGAB
Mind and PGAB(Wooki) are his KT teammates. Of course those two accounts could be fakes, but what are the odds of an account having the same build orders as the VOD and him playing 2 accounts with the names of his teammates?
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What I loved from the vod of KawaiiRice is that Flash did not have uber APM but from time to time in battles he went to over 500. So it was not that he could not move fast but that he did not need to do so because maybe he uses his APM exactly where it is needed.
So far I am so hyped for Flash from what I have seen.
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FIRST VOD NOT WORKING!!??
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