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On May 11 2012 06:47 bObA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 06:26 Affluenza wrote:On May 11 2012 06:18 bObA wrote: yea ghosts banshees reapers helions are useless so you can cancel them blizzard...
And wtf when you write : bunker not changed ???? did you want to increase building time from 40 to 60s ? ??? Or half life points ???
I think you should cancel bunker, terran will have only barrack supply factories to make tanks and marines. But dont forget to nerf siege mode like 300 300 and half damage and nerf marine to 20 life points and decrease dps too cause too imba....
Nothing about tvp late game but these STUPID zerg and toss buffs... I will stop to play cause I tried to play zerg and toss but I liked terran. but with ALL the fuck.... nerfes terran sucks too much now and we havent any option in early game now and too weak in end game... I think I will stop.... thanks for all the time I lost to play and try to get better ( i am 1v1 top master in terran ) cause I am about to stop sc2.... I am disapointed and sad.... too much is too much....
Classic QQ... You will continue to play SC2 and you will buy HotS and enjoy SC2 even more... I dont think so. It is the first time I tell that but now it's the last straw that broke the camel's back.... my 1v1 rank : http://sc2ranks.com/team/17486483
Nobody will miss you. Believe it or not there are a shitload of Masters players on the NA ladder here. You getting all pissy over 2 range on queens and crying about quitting is just a petty grab for attention.
I'm guessing you've had to remake your TL account multiple times by now due to all the nerfs terran has gotten, and every time it was the same bullshit doomsday qq coming out yet here we are, and terran are fine (in fact so fine that blizzard feels the matchup still needs more work for zerg's to be on par).
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ALL the terran qq, just go on ladder, no hellions just marine marauder with 4 pronged drops, still lost...
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On May 11 2012 06:55 neoghaleon55 wrote: I can't believe the stuff I'm reading from some of these posts. It seems that some people could care less about the balance of the game...all they care about is being able to fatally harass the zerg player while safely taking a third. Such feelings of entitlement is quite baffling.
What is safe about suiciding all your hellions for a couple drone kills? And then taking a 3rd? It seems more like auto-loss to me.
Also, barely anyone in higher leagues uses hellions as a harassment tool, more a map control unit. You know, denying creep spread, third bases, scouting, defending zergling allins and stuff... You've probably never heard of these.
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Serious question: is it possible to scout zerg all-ins with a worker without major difficulties? That queen range is... wow.
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On May 11 2012 06:55 neoghaleon55 wrote: I can't believe the stuff I'm reading from some of these posts. It seems that some people could care less about the balance of the game...all they care about is being able to fatally harass the zerg player while safely taking a third. Such feelings of entitlement is quite baffling.
Once again, no pro ever loses to 4 hellions. If you are getting fatally harassed by 4 hellions, then you need to get better. I can't say it any more bluntly. But now you no longer have to, blizzard did it for you.
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while foreigner terrans cry in korea the bw pros don't want to play zerg in sc2 as even the coaches of the teams agree that its the weakest race right now, lets see what these changes will do
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my question is:
will the queen anti ground animation change? will her claws actually swipe for same range as rine? or will they throw stuff now?
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I think people don't get the main point here. the Queen as unit is becoming way too powerful. A queen has a lot of hp, is neither armored nor light, so NOTHING gets additional dmg against them. They can heal, larva inject and spread creep. They have a good air attack. The only thing they didn't have was a useful ground attack. With range 5 they got it now. The unit is way to versatile for a tier 1 minerals only unit. I see massing queen becoming a viable strat, both in early and in lategame. In the early game the unit is way too powerful against zerglings and marines now. (zealots will not suffer that much, since their armor of 1 helps out alot!). In the lategame they heal those high HP endgame units like Broodlords and Ultralisks. It's becoming like a nobrainer now, more queens = better (against Terran and Zerg). This patch is just fucking up the game. I wouldn't believe it's true, but blizzard fucked up quite a bit lately.
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Seriously cant believe they havnt addressed late game tvp, its literally the most broken thing the game has ever expierenced. in any matchup, more than the deathball vs zerg.
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On May 11 2012 07:08 Tsubbi wrote: while foreigner terrans cry in korea the bw pros don't want to play zerg in sc2 as even the coaches of the teams agree that its the weakest race right now, lets see what these changes will do
Riiiiiiiiiiiight, lol. Any korean protoss would disagree about zergs. Cut posting shit please.
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On May 11 2012 07:12 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 07:08 Tsubbi wrote: while foreigner terrans cry in korea the bw pros don't want to play zerg in sc2 as even the coaches of the teams agree that its the weakest race right now, lets see what these changes will do Riiiiiiiiiiiight, lol. Any korean protoss would disagree about zergs. Cut posting shit please.
Watch some korean pro toss's play some PvZ sometime, like MC or Hero. As much as people bitch about stephano they handle him just like they handle every other zerg they play.
Maybe YOU can't but the good toss's aren't complaining about zerg, they are stomping them.
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On May 11 2012 07:12 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 07:08 Tsubbi wrote: while foreigner terrans cry in korea the bw pros don't want to play zerg in sc2 as even the coaches of the teams agree that its the weakest race right now, lets see what these changes will do Riiiiiiiiiiiight, lol. Any korean protoss would disagree about zergs. Cut posting shit please. It's not entirely random. It's from a quote from a recent series of interviews that the BW teams gave.
Team 8 Coach Han Sang-Yong states: No players in our team changed races. However, we are still keeping it into a consideration because the Zerg players are having a lot of trouble. ***** This has been stated from many players and coaches all over the BW teams that BW zerg players are having a hard time in SCII.
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On May 11 2012 07:14 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 07:12 Huragius wrote:On May 11 2012 07:08 Tsubbi wrote: while foreigner terrans cry in korea the bw pros don't want to play zerg in sc2 as even the coaches of the teams agree that its the weakest race right now, lets see what these changes will do Riiiiiiiiiiiight, lol. Any korean protoss would disagree about zergs. Cut posting shit please. Watch some korean pro toss's play some PvZ sometime, like MC or Hero. As much as people bitch about stephano they handle him just like they handle every other zerg they play. Maybe YOU can't but the good toss's aren't complaining about zerg, they are stomping them.
Sadly I'm Terran and majority of protosses do struggle against zergs.
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cant wait to use the new ovie buff, finally scouting will be so much easier, also wondering how queen will work for zvz against banes.
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wow huge i didnt actually think they were serious about buffing zerg o.o im impressed !
the queen change is abit weird but for me personally its awesome because i already rely on queen play alot for defenses
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On May 11 2012 07:20 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 07:14 Leth0 wrote:On May 11 2012 07:12 Huragius wrote:On May 11 2012 07:08 Tsubbi wrote: while foreigner terrans cry in korea the bw pros don't want to play zerg in sc2 as even the coaches of the teams agree that its the weakest race right now, lets see what these changes will do Riiiiiiiiiiiight, lol. Any korean protoss would disagree about zergs. Cut posting shit please. Watch some korean pro toss's play some PvZ sometime, like MC or Hero. As much as people bitch about stephano they handle him just like they handle every other zerg they play. Maybe YOU can't but the good toss's aren't complaining about zerg, they are stomping them. Sadly I'm Terran and majority of protosses do struggle against zergs.
Majority of zerg struggle against protosses.
It's amazing how we can just say shit as if it were fact when all it is , is an extension of our own opinion.
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On May 11 2012 07:20 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 07:14 Leth0 wrote:On May 11 2012 07:12 Huragius wrote:On May 11 2012 07:08 Tsubbi wrote: while foreigner terrans cry in korea the bw pros don't want to play zerg in sc2 as even the coaches of the teams agree that its the weakest race right now, lets see what these changes will do Riiiiiiiiiiiight, lol. Any korean protoss would disagree about zergs. Cut posting shit please. Watch some korean pro toss's play some PvZ sometime, like MC or Hero. As much as people bitch about stephano they handle him just like they handle every other zerg they play. Maybe YOU can't but the good toss's aren't complaining about zerg, they are stomping them. Sadly I'm Terran and majority of protosses do struggle against zergs.
Only bad protoss..
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On May 11 2012 07:24 MorroW wrote: wow huge i didnt actually think they were serious about buffing zerg o.o im impressed !
the queen change is abit weird but for me personally its awesome because i already rely on queen play alot for defenses
i think you wont play TvZ, not anymore.
;P
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This might be a dumb question and i dont know if anyone has already posted this question yet (i dont want to read through 60 pages of posts to find out sorry) but was the ovie speed in BW the same as it is now in SC2 or was it the same as before the buff?
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On May 11 2012 07:32 TheGGparadox wrote: This might be a dumb question and i dont know if anyone has already posted this question yet (i dont want to read through 60 pages of posts to find out sorry) but was the ovie speed in BW the same as it is now in SC2 or was it the same as before the buff?
Why does it matter, they're totally different games... ovies in BW also had detection -_-
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