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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:28 Demorase wrote: Yeah that ground to ground attack range buff is gonna be pretty dope against air units I hear  Hahaha you get what i mean, more specifically against Banshee's xD Edit: I just re-read the patch notes Conclusion- I am illiterate, i was wondering why people where talking about hellions | ||
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Shredded
Australia7 Posts
Obs buff, NO, why? Queen buff, LOL? Bunker comment, yeah real funny. In all seriousness though, i dont like the idea of zergs takes ez 3 base without hellions delaying it or forcing roaches to make my marine tank push THAT much stronger as roaches are a burden unit against midgame marine tank pushes as an exchange for a fast 3rd. though tvz is my best statisically i see it as a almost stable matchup right now with a slight edge to terran, maybe they need this buff but 5 seems ridiculous 4 seems withstandable, i'd have to figure my way around that. As for tvp, my worst, why add insult to injury? | ||
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Telenil
France484 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:28 FairForever wrote: Agreed... If the attack cooldown for the immortal was decreased from 1.45 to 1.44, some people would still make comments like "Blizz is killing roach play and tanks, omg go switch to toss" >< [I feel like people complain just for the heck of it. People should play it without theorycrafting so much. I'm not sure I like the Queen change though I understand where Blizzard is coming from, but I'll wait until I've played 20 - 30 ladder games before saying anything more. | ||
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Severus_
759 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:40 Telenil wrote: Agreed... If the attack cooldown for the immortal was decreased from 1.45 to 1.44, some people would still make comments like "Blizz is killing roach play and tanks, omg go switch to toss" >< Immortal range was buffed and the world still turns. | ||
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Maekchu
140 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:40 Telenil wrote: Agreed... If the attack cooldown for the immortal was decreased from 1.45 to 1.44, some people would still make comments like "Blizz is killing roach play and tanks, omg go switch to toss" >< People always overreact on balance changes in SC. Just look at the guy above your post. How Z is going to take a quick and easy third with a Queen range of 5 is beyond me. It's not like it got "god mode". Then they scream "BLIZZ U SUCK AT BALANCE!" and come up with their own suggestions, which could be like: -Revert Queen buff. -Give Marines a 50/50/60 range upgrade in the tech lab. Standard range is now 4, upgraded range is 5. (just like concussive) -Zealots HP reduced to 80, Shields increased to 70. Weaker vs MM and EMP in lategame. -Remove Battlecruiser energy, make Yamato a cooldown spell. -Battlecruiserg AtG attack increased from 6 damage per 0.16 to 8 damage per 0.20, making it stronger vs armored targets (Capital ships dealing 0 damage per shot against upgraded Guardian Shielded Zealots - retarded) -Thor get's a new spell: Irradiate. 100 energy. Strike Cannons also cost 100 energy. -Stalkers now upgrade with +1 (+1 armore) instead of just +1, helps with Roach flooding in PvZ and makes Stalkers more viable overal. - Collosus movespeed reduced to 1.80 from 2.25. Makes it feel like a siege unit instead of an OP stalker - Corruptor have 1 base armor instead of 2. (Taken from the EU page) Come on people... Stop nerd raging so much. It's not healthy for you :D | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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Yoduh
United States216 Posts
1) Queen is becoming the #1 best zerg unit in the game, and will hard counter reapers, hellions, bunker rushes, and all-ins. 2) faster obs build time will affect... i dont know, but people are angry about it. 3) F@#% BLIZZARD !@#$^ DAVID KIM !#25^@$^@ ;ALKDJF;LAKJDF | ||
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duct_TAPE
492 Posts
On May 10 2012 11:28 sickoota wrote: What is the point of queen, now you can't kite queens with hellions = zerg can do whatever the fuck they want early game (adding to their ability to do that in the mid and late game...) Try just avoiding the queens, they are slower than hellions. You can't kite queens anymore? what? | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:50 Snuggles wrote: I'm so happy about these zerg buffs, anything to make our lives easier. The queen buffs in particular are probably to deal with friggin void ray/pheonix timings or the occasional banshee play. Denying surprise early drops will be a little easier too. And people still don't read... | ||
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Yoduh
United States216 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:50 Snuggles wrote: I'm so happy about these zerg buffs, anything to make our lives easier. The queen buffs in particular are probably to deal with friggin void ray/pheonix timings or the occasional banshee play. Denying surprise early drops will be a little easier too. queen buff is for her ground attack only. | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:50 Snuggles wrote: I'm so happy about these zerg buffs, anything to make our lives easier. The queen buffs in particular are probably to deal with friggin void ray/pheonix timings or the occasional banshee play. Denying surprise early drops will be a little easier too. It's only the ground-to-ground range that got buffed, not ground-to-air. /ninja'd... twice...  | ||
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nDLSoulFly
Malaysia79 Posts
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Ph0en1x
Czech Republic18 Posts
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
I am sad for the reaper though, it's now more useless than ever. | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
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Shredded
Australia7 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:49 Maekchu wrote: People always overreact on balance changes in SC. Just look at the guy above your post. How Z is going to take a quick and easy third with a Queen range of 5 is beyond me. It's not like it got "god mode". Then they scream "BLIZZ U SUCK AT BALANCE!" and come up with their own suggestions, which could be like: (Taken from the EU page) Come on people... Stop nerd raging so much. It's not healthy for you :D You dont even know if im raging or not. No need to be a white knight here, im just saying.....5 seems overkill. Its funny watching all these white knights charging down hills telling people to stop raging and get better when its never going to stop so why bother. I gave my opinion, that is the end of it. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:53 WigglingSquid wrote: Well, guess I will just move around the hurt hellions. Not a big deal. I am sad for the reaper though, it's now more useless than ever. Reaper openings are already outdated, I don't think they served much of a purpose in high-level TvZ anyway because reapers arrive at base like 2 or 3 seconds before queens pop, depending on pool timing. Typically you're not getting reapers to kill drones, you're doing it for map control - you can still snipe tumors and get good scouting information if you really wanted to. | ||
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PandaMonk
United States300 Posts
 , pretty helpful though, will enjoy faster overlords, and a better 4 queen build. | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
On May 10 2012 21:50 Yoduh wrote: 2) faster obs build time will affect... i dont know, but people are angry about it. This affects greedy toss builds like 2gate robo into double forge. You think "at time X the toss will also have an immortal to defend with" and that X just became X-10 seconds. Turtle FTW gets another buff. | ||
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