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Monster: "Foreign tournaments 100 easier than GSL" - Page 7
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:19 mango_destroyer wrote: Well he is right If he can't win one with it being that much easier he might as well retire. | ||
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Xodushai
Sweden174 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:20 Serpico wrote: If he can't win one with it being that much easier he might as well retire. What kind of logic is that? You don`t have to win one to prove a point. He got to the semis at dreamhack and nowhere near that in GSL. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:20 Serpico wrote: If he can't win one with it being that much easier he might as well retire. or, you know, practice more and prepare for the next one. =P | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:16 awu25 wrote: It's called a hyperbole. When someone says "that exam was 100 times harder than the previous one," do you honestly think it was actually 100 times harder? yes. | ||
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SilentSC2
United States505 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:22 mango_destroyer wrote: What kind of logic is that? You don`t have to win one to prove a point. He got to the semis at dreamhack and nowhere near that in GSL. May I say... he also did it with jet lag and it being his first foreign tournament. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:22 mango_destroyer wrote: What kind of logic is that? You don`t have to win one to prove a point. He got to the semis at dreamhack and nowhere near that in GSL. You're right, it just makes you look stupid as hell to call something easy when you can't even be the best in it. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:26 Serpico wrote: You're right, it just makes you look stupid as hell to call something easy when you can't even be the best in it. Easy and easier then x are 2 completely different things. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:27 Assirra wrote: Easy and easier then x are 2 completely different things. 100 times easier is a lot, I'd imagine he thinks GSL is impossible for him if dreamhack is that much easier and he still lost. | ||
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Nifel
706 Posts
That being said, going all the way in a tournament like Dreamhack takes quite a bit as the upper brackets will most likely hold a lot of Code S quality players. Making it "far" might be 100 times easier, but in the end you have to defeat similar competition (which Monster couldn't). Personally, I feel there's need for both these huge, crazy events like DH and MLG and a consistent high end league like GSL. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:25 SilentSC2 wrote: May I say... he also did it with jet lag and it being his first foreign tournament. having jet lag was his own lack of preparation. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:29 dAPhREAk wrote: having jet lag was his own lack of preparation. and a lot of players play with jetlag. | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:07 Skwid1g wrote: It's called hyperbole >_>. 10+ Koreans (some of which are not top tier) vs 32 of the best Koreans, GSL clearly is still harder. Not to mention you can often avoid meeting good players for quite a while if you're lucky, which just doesn't happen in GSL. He shouldn't have worded it so strongly, but he's still basically correct. Thats what I said.... see right at the start "He's correct". You also fail to take into account how difficult a large open bracket played over 2 days is compared to where you can prepare. Also since when can you not avoid meeting good players in GSL? They have a group drawing for a reason. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
So yeah, he's probably spot on about DH's difficulty, BUT it's not his place to say that because he's far from being one of the best Koreans (i.e. far from being one of the best players), AND DH was one of the easiest tournaments we've seen in a while (way easier than MLG, IPL etc...) | ||
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:16 awu25 wrote: It's called a hyperbole. When someone says "that exam was 100 times harder than the previous one," do you honestly think it was actually 100 times harder? I think that when talking about a topic that can be touchy to folks across seas, such as the legitimacy of the skill in their tournaments, you should have some air of responsibility in the kinds of words you throw around. Sure, MC could easily say straight up that the reason he goes to so many foreign tournaments is to milk as much publicity and money he can from as many fans as he can dupe, which is true, which is an informal hyperbole, but is entirely inappropriate and will lead to negative reaction. In my eyes Monster has done this, hence "he needs PR lessons." if you need anymore clarification on what I'm trying to say, just PM me instead of assuming I don't know what a hyperbole is. Thanks. | ||
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Xarles
459 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:35 ZenithM wrote: Dreamhack was quite an easy tournament in terms of top Korean presence, way easier than the concurrent MLG for example. DH was certainly not at Code A level until way far off in the final bracket. And even then, matched against one of the strongest pawn of the foreigner scene (which he deems ezpz), he was not able to beat him. So yeah, he's probably spot on about DH's difficulty, BUT it's not his place to say that because he's far from being one of the best Koreans (i.e. far from being one of the best players), AND DH was one of the easiest tournaments we've seen in a while (way easier than MLG, IPL etc...) True, but we could however look at PuMa's record in Korea and outside of it to judge the difficulty, or how much time NaNiwa has had to spend in Korea before he was actually able to win a Bo3 in GSL let alone reach ro8. | ||
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zomgE
498 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:28 Serpico wrote: 100 times easier is a lot, I'd imagine he thinks GSL is impossible for him if dreamhack is that much easier and he still lost. geez how can so many people fixate so hard on the 100 times :DD i bet it was supersrs and calculated ! | ||
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:26 Serpico wrote: You're right, it just makes you look stupid as hell to call something easy when you can't even be the best in it. When people at school score in the mid 90's for a test they say "That was soooo easy". By your logic they should not be aloud to say such a thing unless they have gotten 100%? | ||
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