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Sweden692 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:56 KillerDucky wrote: Code-B player ties for 3rd place at Dreamhack. Code-B = tied for 73rd place at best. Dreamhack at least 73/3 ~= 24X harder than GSL. Q.E.D. Ro8 Code-S player out before top 16 at Dreamhack. Ties for 17th place at best. Dreamhack at least 2X harder than GSL. Did I do it right? | ||
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Ph4ZeD
United Kingdom753 Posts
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mcgriffin
Canada81 Posts
On April 27 2012 04:56 CosmicSpiral wrote: Naniwa was always subpar in PvZ. Beating Nestea, Leenock, and DRG never changed that fact because those were the only zergs he actually defeated. Yeah Naniwa's PvZ is sooooo subpar that he can only beat those top three zergs in the world. Oh wait... | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
If DRG, MC, Nestea... accomplished players would say stuff like this it would be ok, but for someone who just went to his first outside tournament its hilarious. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:06 ramask2 wrote: Not sure why you quoted me there, but I'm not ragging on him at all. I'm just pointing out that a LAN weekend tournament has a different sets of challenges than playing online or at GOM studio. The bit about the winning personality is as you said, the bland answers. straw that broke the camel's back, and apparently based on a misinterpretation of what you meant by winning personality. ;-) | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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tarodotoxin
United States110 Posts
theres a big difference of what he experienced | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:07 mcgriffin wrote: Yeah Naniwa's PvZ is sooooo subpar that he can only beat those top three zergs in the world. Oh wait... Beat Nestea, lose to Haypro and Slivko and Hyun. Beat a DRG sick from Mexican food (who wasn't even good at ZvP at the time) with two 2 base colossus all-ins, get spanked by Ret a few months later. There's a pretty obvious pattern here. P.S. Leenock is weak at ZvP. Beating him isn't that impressive bro. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38156 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:08 Ryps wrote: I dont know how Monster knows GSL is harder than foreign tournaments when he aint even in code A GSL :D You first gotta be in it to judge it. If DRG, MC, Nestea... accomplished players would say stuff like this it would be ok, but for someone who just went to his first outside tournament its hilarious. You know Monster once knocked MC out of the GSL entirely right? =p | ||
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cari-kira
Germany655 Posts
foreigners celebrate a winner not coming from korea like a superhuman, even when only 4-5 koreans from code A or lower take part, and we know why. everyone who thinks monster is just cocky or exaggerating is just afraid to face reality. he only straight says the truth, bear it and quit whining. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:03 Azarkon wrote: Thing is, Koreans aren't wiping the floor with foreigners. They're pulling out wins, but seeing Genius struggle at Dreamhack, and the amount of matches that go to a third game, I think there's a dynamic to the foreigner vs. Korean rivalry that's still attractive to viewers. Not every Korean is going to go 22-1 - a lot of them are not that solid. Koreans aren't wiping the floor with top foreigners. And if it weren't for Genius (who is a bit of a wildcard anyway, I doubt he practices that regularly :D) being a buffoon at DH, I would have even said "Random Koreans aren't wiping the floor with top foreigners". There are like 4-5 guys who come remotely close to being a challenge to top Koreans... | ||
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KillerDucky
United States498 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:06 Batch wrote: Ro8 Code-S player out before top 16 at Dreamhack. Ties for 17th place at best. Dreamhack at least 2X harder than GSL. Did I do it right? You didn't put Q.E.D. at the end. ;-) | ||
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom301 Posts
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jj33
802 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:03 Azarkon wrote: Thing is, Koreans aren't wiping the floor with foreigners. They're pulling out wins, but seeing Genius struggle at Dreamhack, and the amount of matches that go to a third game, I think there's a dynamic to the foreigner vs. Korean rivalry that's still attractive to viewers. Not every Korean is going to go 22-1 - a lot of them are not that solid. I love how you cherry pick results. Korean's not dominating? Yea ok. Tell yourself that. And you say alot of koreans aren't that solid, well guess what, maybe 3 foreigners in the world are solid then. | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:23 jj33 wrote: I love how you cherry pick results. Korean's not dominating? Yea ok. Tell yourself that. And you say alot of koreans aren't that solid, well guess what, maybe 3 foreigners in the world are solid then. Only solid player is Cutter good sir... mofo snaps into a slim jim. | ||
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Xarles
459 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:47 ZenithM wrote: Well, yeah, it's obvious than GSL is way harder, that's why I didn't even talk about it when I compared DH to other tournaments. DH was easy even compared with OTHER foreign tournaments. It's essentially stomping random Swedes for 2 days before finally having to be matched against top foreigners in quarter finals. Obviously any Korean is going to do well... That's why I think that it's a bit conceited of a declaration from Monster. Again, saying GSL is the hardest shit in the world is Captain Obvious level imo. But the caliber of play at IPL 4 (for example) was comparable I think, while it was certainly not at DH. That's true; you pretty much have to earn your way to these statements among other things. It is unfortunate, but interview inexperience(due to not really winning anything) may have something to do with it. I remember NaNiwa being kinda awkward, and blunt at Providence with his statements, but he seems to have become more eloquent with his more recent interviews. While I understand it if that's the case, I'm not too fond of it either heh. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
Fact is, any foreigner in the tournament will be worse than every player in Code S. There's also a reason a foreigner has never qualified for Code A-- because most foreigners aren't even Code A level. | ||
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