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On April 27 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 05:29 ssg wrote:
I could respect this statement from a well traveled Korean (ie MC) or even a tenured GSL veteran. But Monster? LOL The fact that a guy like Monster who isn't even Code A level in Korea can take 3rd at a 'Premier' foreign tournament ahead of a lot of mainstays of the foreign scene without even playing well demonstrates how right he is, at least about this Dreamhack which had the weakest player pool we've ever had at a Premier Event.
Turn that logic around - Naniwa, a Code S Ro8 player, didn't make it out of the group stages at Dreamhack.
Hence the interviewer challenging him with Naniwa right after.
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On April 27 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 05:29 ssg wrote:
I could respect this statement from a well traveled Korean (ie MC) or even a tenured GSL veteran. But Monster? LOL The fact that a guy like Monster who isn't even Code A level in Korea can take 3rd at a 'Premier' foreign tournament ahead of a lot of mainstays of the foreign scene without even playing well demonstrates how right he is, at least about this Dreamhack which had the weakest player pool we've ever had at a Premier Event.
Maybe about Dreamhack, but that's not what he said. Hence why I said it could make sense from a well traveled Korean, just not him.
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Cant blame him for saying the DH is 100x easier then GSL.... Obviously it was an exaggeration but Monster is, at least from his past results, a 3rd tier Korean who went to his first foreigner event and up until his interview he was owning people. Honestly DH was somewhat disappointing as a foreigner fan because tbh Monster and Hyun were made to look much better then they actually are IMO, I believe Nerchio is incredibly underrated and to see him lose to Monster was somewhat disheartening.
But I definitely think that the interview wasn't even remotely cocky or disrespectful, just telling it how it is!
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On April 27 2012 05:34 Mortalfury wrote:
Cant blame him for saying the DH is 100x easier then GSL.... Obviously it was an exaggeration but Monster is, at least from his past results, a 3rd tier Korean who went to his first foreigner event and up until his interview he was owning people. Honestly DH was somewhat disappointing as a foreigner fan because tbh Monster and Hyun were made to look much better then they actually are IMO, I believe Nerchio is incredibly underrated and to see him lose to Monster was somewhat disheartening.
But I definitely think that the interview wasn't even remotely cocky or disrespectful, just telling it how it is!
He wasn't exactly owning people. In the 3 previous matches leading up this interview he had dropped games against Runa, Seiplo and Nerchio. Not exactly a murderer's row there. He dropped games elsewhere as well.
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On April 27 2012 05:33 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 27 2012 05:29 ssg wrote:
I could respect this statement from a well traveled Korean (ie MC) or even a tenured GSL veteran. But Monster? LOL The fact that a guy like Monster who isn't even Code A level in Korea can take 3rd at a 'Premier' foreign tournament ahead of a lot of mainstays of the foreign scene without even playing well demonstrates how right he is, at least about this Dreamhack which had the weakest player pool we've ever had at a Premier Event. Turn that logic around - Naniwa, a Code S Ro8 player, didn't make it out of the group stages at Dreamhack. Hence the interviewer challenging him with Naniwa right after.
Did not Monster explain why Naniwa didn't make it out of the group stages?
Because his weakeast matchup atm is PvZ since he hasn't been practicing it at all the last couple of months... so your logic doesn't work in reverse.
If Naniwa had been eliminated by P or T then you would've had a point, however.
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He sounds like a douche. I didn't know he won Dreamhack, pretty surprising to me....oh wait.
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On April 27 2012 05:40 Seldentar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 05:33 Azarkon wrote:On April 27 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 27 2012 05:29 ssg wrote:
I could respect this statement from a well traveled Korean (ie MC) or even a tenured GSL veteran. But Monster? LOL The fact that a guy like Monster who isn't even Code A level in Korea can take 3rd at a 'Premier' foreign tournament ahead of a lot of mainstays of the foreign scene without even playing well demonstrates how right he is, at least about this Dreamhack which had the weakest player pool we've ever had at a Premier Event. Turn that logic around - Naniwa, a Code S Ro8 player, didn't make it out of the group stages at Dreamhack. Hence the interviewer challenging him with Naniwa right after. Did not Monster explain why Naniwa didn't make it out of the group stages? Because his weakeast matchup atm is PvZ since he hasn't been practicing it at all the last couple of months... so your logic doesn't work in reverse. If Naniwa had been eliminated by P or T then you would've had a point, however.
Let's turn this right back around then. How can anyone be Code S "class" if one third of their potential matchups mean they die to Code B- players.
Code S means very little then. Similarly, Polt is currently in Code S, isn't he?
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On April 27 2012 05:37 ssg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 05:34 Mortalfury wrote:
Cant blame him for saying the DH is 100x easier then GSL.... Obviously it was an exaggeration but Monster is, at least from his past results, a 3rd tier Korean who went to his first foreigner event and up until his interview he was owning people. Honestly DH was somewhat disappointing as a foreigner fan because tbh Monster and Hyun were made to look much better then they actually are IMO, I believe Nerchio is incredibly underrated and to see him lose to Monster was somewhat disheartening.
But I definitely think that the interview wasn't even remotely cocky or disrespectful, just telling it how it is! He wasn't exactly owning people. In the 3 previous matches leading up this interview he had dropped games against Runa, Seiplo and Nerchio. Not exactly a murderer's row there. He dropped games elsewhere as well.
If you think of his chances against current code S players like MKP, MVP, Parting, etc, to those at DH, he is completely right. Also, people complain when Korean players give humble/boring interviews because they "lack personalities." Maybe he wanted to look more aggressive n be as popular as MC or Idra. What he doesn't realize is that people will always find something to complain about.
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Watch out, we got a badass in here. This is one player I don't find very interesting, his responses annoyed me in a way.
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its true, gsl is still 100 times harder then that dreamhack was. Now mlg......hmmmm. maybe like twice as hard :D
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On April 27 2012 05:46 radiantshadow92 wrote:
its true, gsl is still 100 times harder then that dreamhack was. Now mlg......hmmmm. maybe like twice as hard :D
only because MLG's get more of the GSL field =p
lol @ people getting upset by this.
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GSL is hard because players have more time to figure out your weaknesses imo...it's not all about muscle memory and hoping your mass gaming pays off like MLG where you just play constantly.
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On April 27 2012 05:42 Evangelist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 05:40 Seldentar wrote:On April 27 2012 05:33 Azarkon wrote:On April 27 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 27 2012 05:29 ssg wrote:
I could respect this statement from a well traveled Korean (ie MC) or even a tenured GSL veteran. But Monster? LOL The fact that a guy like Monster who isn't even Code A level in Korea can take 3rd at a 'Premier' foreign tournament ahead of a lot of mainstays of the foreign scene without even playing well demonstrates how right he is, at least about this Dreamhack which had the weakest player pool we've ever had at a Premier Event. Turn that logic around - Naniwa, a Code S Ro8 player, didn't make it out of the group stages at Dreamhack. Hence the interviewer challenging him with Naniwa right after. Did not Monster explain why Naniwa didn't make it out of the group stages? Because his weakeast matchup atm is PvZ since he hasn't been practicing it at all the last couple of months... so your logic doesn't work in reverse. If Naniwa had been eliminated by P or T then you would've had a point, however. Let's turn this right back around then. How can anyone be Code S "class" if one third of their potential matchups mean they die to Code B- players. Code S means very little then. Similarly, Polt is currently in Code S, isn't he?
It's not about being bad at the match up (have we forgotten so fast how many Code S Zergs he has beaten); it's just that he was bad vZ that weekend due to lack of practice.
Polt went 0-2 in Code S ro32.
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On April 27 2012 05:42 Evangelist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 05:40 Seldentar wrote:On April 27 2012 05:33 Azarkon wrote:On April 27 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 27 2012 05:29 ssg wrote:
I could respect this statement from a well traveled Korean (ie MC) or even a tenured GSL veteran. But Monster? LOL The fact that a guy like Monster who isn't even Code A level in Korea can take 3rd at a 'Premier' foreign tournament ahead of a lot of mainstays of the foreign scene without even playing well demonstrates how right he is, at least about this Dreamhack which had the weakest player pool we've ever had at a Premier Event. Turn that logic around - Naniwa, a Code S Ro8 player, didn't make it out of the group stages at Dreamhack. Hence the interviewer challenging him with Naniwa right after. Did not Monster explain why Naniwa didn't make it out of the group stages? Because his weakeast matchup atm is PvZ since he hasn't been practicing it at all the last couple of months... so your logic doesn't work in reverse. If Naniwa had been eliminated by P or T then you would've had a point, however. Let's turn this right back around then. How can anyone be Code S "class" if one third of their potential matchups mean they die to Code B- players. Code S means very little then. Similarly, Polt is currently in Code S, isn't he?
He dropped out in RO32, which also happened to be the case the last time he was in Code S(November).
Dropped to Code B last season, but he got a seed for his Assembly victory to Code S.
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has monster even _won_ anything.
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This interview feels like a lost in translation. Dont think his reponses meant to be this way
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On April 27 2012 05:40 Seldentar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 05:33 Azarkon wrote:On April 27 2012 05:32 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 27 2012 05:29 ssg wrote:
I could respect this statement from a well traveled Korean (ie MC) or even a tenured GSL veteran. But Monster? LOL The fact that a guy like Monster who isn't even Code A level in Korea can take 3rd at a 'Premier' foreign tournament ahead of a lot of mainstays of the foreign scene without even playing well demonstrates how right he is, at least about this Dreamhack which had the weakest player pool we've ever had at a Premier Event. Turn that logic around - Naniwa, a Code S Ro8 player, didn't make it out of the group stages at Dreamhack. Hence the interviewer challenging him with Naniwa right after. Did not Monster explain why Naniwa didn't make it out of the group stages? Because his weakeast matchup atm is PvZ since he hasn't been practicing it at all the last couple of months... so your logic doesn't work in reverse. If Naniwa had been eliminated by P or T then you would've had a point, however.
Naniwa's PvZ was enough to defeat Leenock and Nestea. Are they Code B level too?
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Well he cerainly didn't hold back lol. Nice to see someone actually spitting out the blatant truth for once, albeit 100x is somewhat exaggerated.
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I have no idea what people are hating on. I think that Dreamhack was, literally, probably 100 times easier than GSL. You don't think Monster had about 100 times as big a chance at winning Dreamhack compared to winning the next GSL? Sounds about right.
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