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CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
April 27 2012 09:08 GMT
#301
Another thing that I would like to is how Monster said 100 times which in Korean in 백배. It is a very common hyperbole expression - obviously the translator translated it too directly. 백배 and 천배 something something is a very common expression in Korean
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 27 2012 09:12 GMT
#302
People making a big deal out of nothing.
People making a big deal out of nothing.

Would people be happier if Monster said "Foreign tournaments are 3.14159265 easier than GSL"?
1.5x?
1.1x?
1.000001x?

I miss the days when people could have non-inflammatory opinions which didn't get flamed. If you think Monster's comment is inflammatory you might be the problem...

Besides. All tournaments I watch are foreigner tournaments from my view. I'm over this generalisation and categorisation between Korea and the rest.
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 09:17:17
April 27 2012 09:16 GMT
#303
On April 27 2012 18:12 bittman wrote:
People making a big deal out of nothing.
People making a big deal out of nothing.

Would people be happier if Monster said "Foreign tournaments are 3.14159265 easier than GSL"?
1.5x?
1.1x?
1.000001x?

I miss the days when people could have non-inflammatory opinions which didn't get flamed. If you think Monster's comment is inflammatory you might be the problem...

Besides. All tournaments I watch are foreigner tournaments from my view. I'm over this generalisation and categorisation between Korea and the rest.


"twice as hard" or "far harder" would be acceptable

saying 100x is unneeded gloating from someone who got knocked out by a forienger
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 27 2012 09:23 GMT
#304

"twice as hard" or "far harder" would be acceptable

saying 100x is unneeded gloating from someone who got knocked out by a forienger


different languages have terms which does not translate well. Like when we say in English, player A got raped by player B. Do we really mean player A physically raped player B?
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
April 27 2012 09:26 GMT
#305
On April 27 2012 18:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 18:12 bittman wrote:
People making a big deal out of nothing.
People making a big deal out of nothing.

Would people be happier if Monster said "Foreign tournaments are 3.14159265 easier than GSL"?
1.5x?
1.1x?
1.000001x?

I miss the days when people could have non-inflammatory opinions which didn't get flamed. If you think Monster's comment is inflammatory you might be the problem...

Besides. All tournaments I watch are foreigner tournaments from my view. I'm over this generalisation and categorisation between Korea and the rest.


"twice as hard" or "far harder" would be acceptable

saying 100x is unneeded gloating from someone who got knocked out by a forienger

Read one post above the one you quoted, dear lord.

On April 27 2012 18:08 CP-Jun wrote:
Another thing that I would like to is how Monster said 100 times which in Korean in 백배. It is a very common hyperbole expression - obviously the translator translated it too directly. 백배 and 천배 something something is a very common expression in Korean
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
April 27 2012 12:55 GMT
#306
It's a no secret that foreign tournaments don't have as many strong contenders as the GSL, which is the premier tournament when looking at skill.
ePdeLay
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia220 Posts
April 27 2012 13:02 GMT
#307
haha is the picture meant to make us think that he is a toolbag?
Felvo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States124 Posts
April 27 2012 13:16 GMT
#308
Tournaments usually don't have the same amount of competitiveness in each tournament because many people are focused on the more difficult tournaments such as GSL over MLG or IPL or Dreamhack. Normally I think foreigners like to try GSL because they want to get better while some Koreans want to try foreign tournaments to gain new fans, new experiences, and possible chances at bigger prize pools.
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
April 27 2012 13:22 GMT
#309
On April 27 2012 18:16 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 18:12 bittman wrote:
People making a big deal out of nothing.
People making a big deal out of nothing.

Would people be happier if Monster said "Foreign tournaments are 3.14159265 easier than GSL"?
1.5x?
1.1x?
1.000001x?

I miss the days when people could have non-inflammatory opinions which didn't get flamed. If you think Monster's comment is inflammatory you might be the problem...

Besides. All tournaments I watch are foreigner tournaments from my view. I'm over this generalisation and categorisation between Korea and the rest.


"twice as hard" or "far harder" would be acceptable

saying 100x is unneeded gloating from someone who got knocked out by a forienger

hyperbole
(hī-pûr'bə-lē)
n.
A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hyperbole
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
April 27 2012 13:23 GMT
#310
Lol what are ppl getting worked up over exactly? A tournament in korea consisting entirely of the best korean players is much more difficult than a tournament of predominantly foreigners with a few korean invites? Isnt that about as obvious as it gets ??
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Thune
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria129 Posts
April 27 2012 13:26 GMT
#311
srsly what did you expect if you forumalte the question like: you never were able to get into code s and struggeled really hard in code A.
should he say that foreign tournaments arent that much easier and he is just a bad player thats why he struggeled in GSL? No obviously noone would say that so the only correct answer without saying that u are not as good as the other korean players is to say that foreign tournaments are 100 times easier.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
April 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#312
maybe he's right
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Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
April 27 2012 13:29 GMT
#313
haha he looks like a smug mofo in that picture
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CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
April 27 2012 13:32 GMT
#314
He sounds butthurt about his GSL record if you ask me...
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
April 27 2012 14:14 GMT
#315
i dont even consider him an elite tbh
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 27 2012 14:19 GMT
#316
I am starting to like this monster guy sounds like a guy who doesn't gives a damn and is here to do some serious winning . Korean dominance is coming back I can feel it ! .
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Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
April 27 2012 18:30 GMT
#317
On April 27 2012 15:22 Flowjo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 15:08 Blennd wrote:
On April 27 2012 14:19 chosenkerrigan wrote:
To all of the butthurt foreigner fanboys that couldn't stand someone told the truth,

Go back a few pages and read Morrow's comment.


And what exactly makes Monster such an expert on foreign tournaments, rather than say, taeja, who said IPL4 was as hard as code s? Monster has been to exactly one foreign tournament, which was by far the easiest foreign tournament field in recent memory. Saying Koreans are far superior to foreigners is indisputably correct, saying the GSL is 100x harder than "foreign tournaments" is just ignorant. Not all foreign tournaments are created equal.


Because IPL 4 had the most Code S koreans, alot of Code A/B Koreans... oh yea RO16 was 15/16 korean.. so....


Yes that's exactly my point. He said foreign tournaments, not foreign players. IPL4 was a foreign tournament, simply because Korean's participated in it and did well doesn't mean it wasn't a foreign tournament. Foreign tournament =/= foreign players.
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
April 27 2012 18:45 GMT
#318
On April 27 2012 23:19 Sawamura wrote:
I am starting to like this monster guy sounds like a guy who doesn't gives a damn and is here to do some serious winning . Korean dominance is coming back I can feel it ! .



haha i think i like monster too. I love when players show some personality and dont just give interviews like a scripted PR statement :D
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
April 27 2012 18:56 GMT
#319
On April 27 2012 22:23 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Lol what are ppl getting worked up over exactly? A tournament in korea consisting entirely of the best korean players is much more difficult than a tournament of predominantly foreigners with a few korean invites? Isnt that about as obvious as it gets ??



Yes it is, but the truth hurts for alot of people here.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
April 27 2012 18:56 GMT
#320
On April 28 2012 03:30 Blennd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 15:22 Flowjo wrote:
On April 27 2012 15:08 Blennd wrote:
On April 27 2012 14:19 chosenkerrigan wrote:
To all of the butthurt foreigner fanboys that couldn't stand someone told the truth,

Go back a few pages and read Morrow's comment.


And what exactly makes Monster such an expert on foreign tournaments, rather than say, taeja, who said IPL4 was as hard as code s? Monster has been to exactly one foreign tournament, which was by far the easiest foreign tournament field in recent memory. Saying Koreans are far superior to foreigners is indisputably correct, saying the GSL is 100x harder than "foreign tournaments" is just ignorant. Not all foreign tournaments are created equal.


Because IPL 4 had the most Code S koreans, alot of Code A/B Koreans... oh yea RO16 was 15/16 korean.. so....


Yes that's exactly my point. He said foreign tournaments, not foreign players. IPL4 was a foreign tournament, simply because Korean's participated in it and did well doesn't mean it wasn't a foreign tournament. Foreign tournament =/= foreign players.

Right, so foreign tournaments are considered hard because of the Koreans that are involved.
So I'm guessing the premier Korean tournament with the best of those Koreans would be harder.
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