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On April 28 2012 03:56 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:30 Blennd wrote:On April 27 2012 15:22 Flowjo wrote:On April 27 2012 15:08 Blennd wrote:On April 27 2012 14:19 chosenkerrigan wrote:
To all of the butthurt foreigner fanboys that couldn't stand someone told the truth,
Go back a few pages and read Morrow's comment. And what exactly makes Monster such an expert on foreign tournaments, rather than say, taeja, who said IPL4 was as hard as code s? Monster has been to exactly one foreign tournament, which was by far the easiest foreign tournament field in recent memory. Saying Koreans are far superior to foreigners is indisputably correct, saying the GSL is 100x harder than "foreign tournaments" is just ignorant. Not all foreign tournaments are created equal. Because IPL 4 had the most Code S koreans, alot of Code A/B Koreans... oh yea RO16 was 15/16 korean.. so.... Yes that's exactly my point. He said foreign tournaments, not foreign players. IPL4 was a foreign tournament, simply because Korean's participated in it and did well doesn't mean it wasn't a foreign tournament. Foreign tournament =/= foreign players. Right, so foreign tournaments are considered hard because of the Koreans that are involved. So I'm guessing the premier Korean tournament with the best of those Koreans would be harder.
Probably a little bit. But I don't think anyone was raving about how easy IPL4 was compared to GSL.
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Pretty big talk for someone that has no chance of winning any tournament in the near future
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He is a pompous bastard. How can the GSL be 100 times better if many top Koreans still play (and lose) in foreign tournaments? It is time for Korean ethnocentrism to cease.
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On April 28 2012 03:59 Blennd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:56 RockIronrod wrote:On April 28 2012 03:30 Blennd wrote:On April 27 2012 15:22 Flowjo wrote:On April 27 2012 15:08 Blennd wrote:On April 27 2012 14:19 chosenkerrigan wrote:
To all of the butthurt foreigner fanboys that couldn't stand someone told the truth,
Go back a few pages and read Morrow's comment. And what exactly makes Monster such an expert on foreign tournaments, rather than say, taeja, who said IPL4 was as hard as code s? Monster has been to exactly one foreign tournament, which was by far the easiest foreign tournament field in recent memory. Saying Koreans are far superior to foreigners is indisputably correct, saying the GSL is 100x harder than "foreign tournaments" is just ignorant. Not all foreign tournaments are created equal. Because IPL 4 had the most Code S koreans, alot of Code A/B Koreans... oh yea RO16 was 15/16 korean.. so.... Yes that's exactly my point. He said foreign tournaments, not foreign players. IPL4 was a foreign tournament, simply because Korean's participated in it and did well doesn't mean it wasn't a foreign tournament. Foreign tournament =/= foreign players. Right, so foreign tournaments are considered hard because of the Koreans that are involved. So I'm guessing the premier Korean tournament with the best of those Koreans would be harder. Probably a little bit. But I don't think anyone was raving about how easy IPL4 was compared to GSL.
The big difference is the preparation time. Both players having a long preparation time to face each other makes strategies in Code S games a lot deeper and complex than those of a fast foreign tournament, in which most players prepare cookie-cutter builds they can use in every situation. You see this particularly in Koreans, who tend to use the exact same strat/build order on many games in foreign tournaments, so they can advance without making such a big effort.
And people.. please.. stop making a big deal out of nothing. Even if he thinks it's actually 100x harder, so what? It's his opinion, that is all, no need to be so butthurt about it it's just an opinion.
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Everyone here is being stupid and overreacting. He is %100 correct with what he says and i assume that with translations it probably made it sound more blunt than it actually was. Anyone who is saying that DH was not 100x easier than GSL is kidding themselves. Check the amount of top foreigners that would be considered favourites for tournaments. Now check that against those guys who have gone to Korea and done well or even got into the GSL.
Only a very select few of the top foreigners have what it takes to handle GSL. IMO those people are Stephano, Sen, HuK, Naniwa, Thorzain, SaSe (I know he hasnt had much success in Korea but i hold him in the same league) and a few others. The people who could maybe do well or at least benefit from time in Korea to go that extra step are Kas, MaNa, MorroW, Ret, IdrA, SelecT, Demuslim, Socke, ToD, Grubby, LucifroN (I think will be challenging the top guys soon, personal opinion) + probably quite a few others. Of all those people Minus the top group there are probably hundreds of Koreans that are better, therefore GSL is 100 times harder. Easy solved. People need to stop being so butthurt over silly things
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Lol people are angry over a hyperbole. Even if it wasn't meant to be one by Monster, which I doubt anyhow, he isn't that far from the truth.
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On April 28 2012 04:06 Lore-Fighting wrote:
He is a pompous bastard. How can the GSL be 100 times better if many top Koreans still play (and lose) in foreign tournaments? It is time for Korean ethnocentrism to cease.
what?? I mean, yea Polt has lost to Stephano and Thorzain I guess.. and Monster @ DH but Koreans have been dominant in every foreign tournament across the board since they started flying out. Lest you forget the hardest tournament is probably Code A qualifiers (in another words, not even close to S level) that no foreigner has ever won/got through. I think it's pretty dignified "ethnocentrism" ..
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I think it makes sense that he says that. I mean he got top 4 dreamhack and isn't doing all that well in gsl so it stands to reason that he thinks gsl is way harder right?
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hi guys my think wrong.. very very sorry
i`m Than my think Easily ro 8 and i`m not going code s So i thought
but thorzain lose
and my think wrong...
this is not my intention....
I can't write English...
sry.. im regret...
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On April 28 2012 04:51 MVPMonster wrote:
hi guys my think wrong.. very very sorry
i`m Than my think Easily ro 8 and i`m not going code s So i thought
but thorzain lose
and my think wrong
so.. sry
this is not my intention....
Lol don't be sorry man, no big deal.
Very nice of you to come to TL and say this, but no harm, people just like to talk about anything :D
Good luck Monster!
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On April 28 2012 04:51 MVPMonster wrote:
hi guys my think wrong.. very very sorry
i`m Than my think Easily ro 8 and i`m not going code s So i thought
but thorzain lose
and my think wrong...
this is not my intention....
I can't write English...
sry.. im regret...
rofl, don't feel bad, most people here have gone a bit mad. Congrats on top 4 at Dreamhack, you had the least hype going into the tournament, but did sick good. Loosing to T-Zain is no shame!
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And it's a known fact that GSL is harder, foreign's tournaments are easier to win, ask drg.
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On April 28 2012 04:51 MVPMonster wrote:
hi guys my think wrong.. very very sorry
i`m Than my think Easily ro 8 and i`m not going code s So i thought
but thorzain lose
and my think wrong...
this is not my intention....
I can't write English...
sry.. im regret...
No problems.
I just took it as friendly smack-talk 
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never knew so many people would get so mad over a hyperbole
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On April 28 2012 04:51 MVPMonster wrote:
hi guys my think wrong.. very very sorry
i`m Than my think Easily ro 8 and i`m not going code s So i thought
but thorzain lose
and my think wrong...
this is not my intention....
I can't write English...
sry.. im regret...
people are just way to sensitive, personally i will forgive you if you stream
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He's right though, this made me a fan
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On April 28 2012 04:51 MVPMonster wrote:
hi guys my think wrong.. very very sorry
i`m Than my think Easily ro 8 and i`m not going code s So i thought
but thorzain lose
and my think wrong...
this is not my intention....
I can't write English...
sry.. im regret...
Don't apologize, you were 100% correct and the only people that got upset are butthurt foreigners with an inferiority complex.
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monster looks stoned like shit.
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On April 28 2012 04:51 MVPMonster wrote:
hi guys my think wrong.. very very sorry
i`m Than my think Easily ro 8 and i`m not going code s So i thought
but thorzain lose
and my think wrong...
this is not my intention....
I can't write English...
sry.. im regret...
apology accepted. oh wait this is TL
he made an account just to post this. let's end it here
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