Monster: "Foreign tournaments 100 easier than GSL" - Page 15

If anything you foreign fanboys should be thankful that he said Naniwa failed because of his PvZ. He didn't say that Naniwa is not a true code s player, nor did he say that Naniwa is overrated or just not good enough to advance. He said that Naniwa has poor PvZ and implied that any other matchup would have seen Naniwa advancing. That's actually not BM at all.

On April 27 2012 13:47 sdecker32 wrote:


Thankful? It is what it is. If someone gets to CodeS round of 8 by dominating the competition(9-1 in his groups i believe) there is not much to talk about. Saying that he is not a "true" code S player is a bit stupid(unless you mean the seeding by GOMTV, which is neither here nor there).

He went 2-1 against the champ of Dreamhack. A moment of missed concentration would've won him the tournament. There's no way Polt could've stood a chance against him.

On April 27 2012 13:53 zefreak wrote:


You misunderstood. I'm not saying that those things are true about Naniwa. I'm saying that if Monster actually wanted to BM Naniwa, there are many ways he could have done it. If monster actually thought Naniwa wasn't code s quality, he would have said so. Instead he said that the reason Naniwa lost is because it is his worst MU, and any other race he probably would have advanced.

And yet Naniwa fans are saying that is disrespectful.

On April 27 2012 14:19 chosenkerrigan wrote:
To all of the butthurt foreigner fanboys that couldn't stand someone told the truth,

Go back a few pages and read Morrow's comment.

On April 27 2012 07:00 MorroW wrote:

while it might seem abit off or weird that a somewhat unaccomplished player goes out to say something like this, from personal experience i have to agree with him

when i played up and down i went 1-3 in my group, then 0-2 in the code a and the time i was in korea before then was gsl world invitational where i lost all my games aswell (i think it was 0-1 in the "clanwar" and 0-2 in the bracket).

from watching gsl on a daily basis its really insane how much they are improving all the time and how literally everyone is sick good. our known champions falling to code a or even code b left and right and constant rotation on whos considered among the top just goes to show the amount of very good players they have

i got to top16 at dreamhack without preparing for my opponents or even practicing the new dreamhack maps, its not a good result but still. to come top16 to code S is a sick achievement and it is wayyy wayyyyyyyy harder.
i prepared vs maruprime and studied his style closely the best i could, and practiced vs only terran about 3 weeks prior to my match. then when i had to play against him i lost 0-2 got my face absolutely stomped. you can take huk and naniwa as example too, who lost miserably the first period aswell, only after a few months were they able to step up their game enough while prior to that were strong enough to be favorites of foreigner events

so ye just from my own personal experience and my outlooks as a spectator watching mlg, dreamhack and gsl i think gsl is about 100 times harder lol.

trust me there are so many good players you have never even seen in gsl that are trying each month to qualify, players who practice just as much as the ones in code S and are almost as good

There was still a possibility he would face a zerg in RO8 and therefore he might not have wanted to reveal his strategies.
Artosis & Incontrol (I believe it was them) who were casting his games even stated in his games vs Hyun that Naniwa played sloppy and improvised and also came to the conclusion that he wanted his strategies to remain a secret for code s.

On April 27 2012 15:08 Blennd wrote:


And what exactly makes Monster such an expert on foreign tournaments, rather than say, taeja, who said IPL4 was as hard as code s? Monster has been to exactly one foreign tournament, which was by far the easiest foreign tournament field in recent memory. Saying Koreans are far superior to foreigners is indisputably correct, saying the GSL is 100x harder than "foreign tournaments" is just ignorant. Not all foreign tournaments are created equal.

On April 27 2012 15:22 Flowjo wrote:


Because IPL 4 had the most Code S koreans, alot of Code A/B Koreans... oh yea RO16 was 15/16 korean.. so....

On April 27 2012 15:34 SupLilSon wrote:
The fact that tournament difficulty is rated based on the number of GSL quality Koreans attending should be more than enough to solidify what Monster says. Stop taking his hyperbole so seriously.

On April 27 2012 15:28 zefreak wrote:


Great, now people are just going to bring up IPL4, which is the most korean stacked foreign tournament ever, to try and wash away the countless ez foreign tournaments that came before it.