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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
I just find it really disrespectful. This dreamhack after all was an open qualifier with a lot of amateurs, and his statement really downgrades foreigner tournaments in general. Ofc he can state what he wants. But dont expect to get a lot of fans like this. | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
Jesus fucking Christ, for God's fucking sake, are you guys really picking on him because he stated a fact? Are you butthut because he claims that foreigns are 100x worse than koreans? Because if you are, then you must be a real fool. Foreigns suck compared to koreans, get over it. Wake up from your pink colored dreams and take it as a fucking man. | ||
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Ausfailia
Australia123 Posts
On April 27 2012 10:57 OopsOopsBaby wrote: the truth hurts. On April 27 2012 10:57 fabiano wrote: Some posts here are fucking enraging. Jesus fucking Christ, for God's fucking sake, are you guys really picking on him because he stated a fact? Are you butthut because he claims that foreigns are 100x worse than koreans? Because if you are, then you must be a real fool. Foreigns suck compared to koreans, get over it. Wake up from your pink colored dreams and take it as a fucking man. Holy shit finally, so many crying foreigner fanboys in this thread. Koreans are leagues above foreigners, Korean tournaments are leagues ahead of foreign tournaments. Deal with it. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 27 2012 11:00 Ausfailia wrote: Holy shit finally, so many crying foreigner fanboys in this thread. Koreans are leagues above foreigners, Korean tournaments are leagues ahead of foreign tournaments. Deal with it. So many crying Europeans in this thread, it looks like. | ||
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TheAngryZergling
United States387 Posts
still he is just a kid and allowed some leeway in that regard and he definitely seems to be upping his game lately, so I'll still be cheering for him vT&P. | ||
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
On April 27 2012 10:57 fabiano wrote: Some posts here are fucking enraging. Jesus fucking Christ, for God's fucking sake, are you guys really picking on him because he stated a fact? Are you butthut because he claims that foreigns are 100x worse than koreans? Because if you are, then you must be a real fool. Foreigns suck compared to koreans, get over it. Wake up from your pink colored dreams and take it as a fucking man. I don't think there is anything difficult about the GSL format. In fact, it's probably the easiest tournament format possible. Long breaks between matches, lots of information about your opponents beforehand, etc. It just has the highest concentration of good players. It is unlikely that you will have an "easy match." Winning IPL4 or IPL4 is a bigger achievement than winning a single GSL. Same level of competition, little prep time, and a large number of games in a few days. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 27 2012 11:14 Bigtony wrote: Winning IPL4 or IPL4 is a bigger achievement than winning a single GSL. Same level of competition, little prep time, and a large number of games in a few days. LOLOLOLOLOL it's been a long time since I've seen such a ignorant, unfounded opinion. The only thing that's harder about IPL/MLG is the endurance factor. If that's your measure of skill then ladder grinding is the hardest tournament of all time. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 27 2012 11:14 Bigtony wrote: I don't think there is anything difficult about the GSL format. In fact, it's probably the easiest tournament format possible. Long breaks between matches, lots of information about your opponents beforehand, etc. It just has the highest concentration of good players. It is unlikely that you will have an "easy match." Winning IPL4 or IPL4 is a bigger achievement than winning a single GSL. Same level of competition, little prep time, and a large number of games in a few days. Lol no. Think about it. Lots of information about your opponents, but they have the same information about you. You can win an MLG or IPL4 with a lot of cheesy play. You can take advantage of being relatively unknown. The fact that every pro thinks GSL is the harder tournament should tell you something. You don't know more than them about tournament formats, sorry. No amount of bronze league theory crafting will change that. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
As a general rule (there will always be a few exceptions) foreigners suck at Starcraft - they always have, and they always will. Please just accept this and enjoy the beautiful game that we all love. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
Even beyond the argument about competition, consider these comparisons: DH Group Stage #1: groups of 3, round robin, bottom 1 eliminated DH Group Stage #2: groups of 4, round robin, bottom 2 eliminated DH Group Stage #3: groups of 4, round robin, bottom 2 eliminated DH bracket: group of 16, single elimination, winner is champion Code A preliminary: groups of 16, single elimination, bottom 15 eliminated Code A RO48: 20% chance of facing a Code S player, single elimination, 24 losers must re-qualify Code A RO32: 33% chance of facing a Code S player, single elimination, 16 losers go to Up&Down Code A RO16: 50% chance of facing a Code S player, single elimination, 8 losers go to Up&Down, 8 winners go to Code S Code S RO32: groups of 4, modified bracket, bottom 2 sent to Code A Code S RO16: self-selected groups of 4, modified bracket, bottom 2 sent to Code A Code S RO8: single elimination, winner is champion ...yeah, it looks 100x harder to win GSL than to win DH. And yeah, you can see why Naniwa might say it looks unfair that he can get an automatic Code S seed and start instantly in the RO32. Also why he would have been stupid to turn down such a gift. | ||
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epidGoaty
United States219 Posts
I understand he wasn't speaking literally, but if Korea was as easily accessible as some of the other foreign events I think we'd see more foreigners in at least Code A. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 27 2012 11:10 TheAngryZergling wrote: definitely lowered my opinion of monster a tiny bit. after he's had any notable results at an MLG or IPL then he can talk shit about the difficulty of foreign tourneys. still he is just a kid and allowed some leeway in that regard and he definitely seems to be upping his game lately, so I'll still be cheering for him vT&P. Why do you morons not understand. He is not talking shit about foreigners relative to him. He is talking shit about foreign tournaments relative to GSL. It's the same as me saying that Mount Everest is harder to climb than Mount Himalchuli. It's true, but nobody is saying Mount Himalchuli is easy to climb, and it doesn't necessarily mean that I am capable of climbing either of them. | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46476 Posts
On April 27 2012 04:43 horsebanger wrote: thanks monster for dropping new facts, nice interview rofl yeah. Everyone pretty much knows that GSL >>>>>> foreign tournaments, although I don't know if DRG is *currently* the #1 player in the world (for a good reason, see previous line). Monster's a cool cat though, so I'm glad he got a little interview  | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 27 2012 11:25 Corsica wrote: Pretty confident words for korean b teamer, who got the easiest groups, and then went 2-1 to Seiplo (not top protoss) and won by luck nerchio lol Read my post directly above yours and see how it relates to your post. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
EDIT: He can't just lump all foreign tournaments together with the one he happened to attend. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
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