Monster: "Foreign tournaments 100 easier than GSL" - Page 14

On April 27 2012 10:09 Makro wrote:
i try :

Monster has 100x less skill than code s players

On April 27 2012 11:27 zefreak wrote:


Read my post directly above yours and see how it relates to your post.

On April 27 2012 11:39 Corsica wrote:



Well, players are what makes tournaments harder/easier, I would argue that format is harder, and because you have to play it in 3 days (rather than weeks for gsl) and because he had to play on not home soil too (jetlag) so i would argue he is saying that its players he is talking about, I would be ok if it was drg, mma, mvp who say that (for the record drg, mvp say that there is no huge difference in skill, though it exists), but to hear that from korean b teamer who judges this from his first tournament seems kinda childish

On April 27 2012 11:56 zefreak wrote:


You missed my point. He never said the the tourney was easy. He said that it is easier than GSL. Which it is. Nowhere does he say anything about his skill level relative to foreigners or anything like that.

Also the fact that a 'korean b teamer' gets top 4 in your big european tournament should be further evidence of the fact.

On April 27 2012 11:56 zefreak wrote:


You missed my point. He never said the the tourney was easy. He said that it is easier than GSL. Which it is. Nowhere does he say anything about his skill level relative to foreigners or anything like that.

Also the fact that a 'korean b teamer' gets top 4 in your big european tournament should be further evidence of the fact.

On April 27 2012 07:00 MorroW wrote:

while it might seem abit off or weird that a somewhat unaccomplished player goes out to say something like this, from personal experience i have to agree with him

when i played up and down i went 1-3 in my group, then 0-2 in the code a and the time i was in korea before then was gsl world invitational where i lost all my games aswell (i think it was 0-1 in the "clanwar" and 0-2 in the bracket).

from watching gsl on a daily basis its really insane how much they are improving all the time and how literally everyone is sick good. our known champions falling to code a or even code b left and right and constant rotation on whos considered among the top just goes to show the amount of very good players they have

i got to top16 at dreamhack without preparing for my opponents or even practicing the new dreamhack maps, its not a good result but still. to come top16 to code S is a sick achievement and it is wayyy wayyyyyyyy harder.
i prepared vs maruprime and studied his style closely the best i could, and practiced vs only terran about 3 weeks prior to my match. then when i had to play against him i lost 0-2 got my face absolutely stomped. you can take huk and naniwa as example too, who lost miserably the first period aswell, only after a few months were they able to step up their game enough while prior to that were strong enough to be favorites of foreigner events

so ye just from my own personal experience and my outlooks as a spectator watching mlg, dreamhack and gsl i think gsl is about 100 times harder lol.

trust me there are so many good players you have never even seen in gsl that are trying each month to qualify, players who practice just as much as the ones in code S and are almost as good

Also the fact that a 'korean b teamer' gets top 4 in your big european tournament should be further evidence of the fact.

On April 27 2012 12:40 Kenpark wrote:
So he beat Siheo, Protosser,NevaKee, Wonnaplay all unknown amateurs, 3 Protosses who suck in PvZ for ages in Elfi, Mana and Seiplo. Gets outplayed by Nerchio, so that he decided to random all in vs him in zvz and calls foreigner tournaments in general 100x times easier than gsl. Ye of course ...

On April 27 2012 13:19 Kenpark wrote:
We could also compare Naniwas possible opponents to get to the gsl finals and compare that with the players Squirtle has to go through to get to ipl4 finals (foreigner tournament).

Naniwa: Genius, Virus, Ryung, Puzzle, MVP, Oz/Parting
Squirtle: Nestea, MMA, MKP, Bomber, MC, Creator, Ace, Puma, Sase, Byun, Tod

On April 27 2012 11:56 zefreak wrote:


You missed my point. He never said the the tourney was easy. He said that it is easier than GSL. Which it is. Nowhere does he say anything about his skill level relative to foreigners or anything like that.

Also the fact that a 'korean b teamer' gets top 4 in your big european tournament should be further evidence of the fact.

He went 2-1 against the champ of Dreamhack. A moment of missed concentration would've won him the tournament. There's no way Polt could've stood a chance against him

On April 27 2012 13:40 CajunMan wrote:
Well to be fair Naniwa in shape against Z would mop monster up easy. Monster is really talking out of place for a player with no good results. All the games I watched of him were him getting really lucky he's a decent player who got lucky congrats bro. And Omg gsl is harder who would have guessed? Really man I think you need to take a seat and win something before talking high and mighty especially about other players who have won multiple championships.