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On April 27 2012 11:47 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 08:43 Bisu-Fan wrote:On April 26 2012 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.
TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash. Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it. But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them. What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off. yeah but at the same time they way they run things is the reason why BW lasts this long. haha yeah and i think you might have forgotten that BW was >10 years old and the eSports scene was crazy big when SC2 came out. BW literally opened the way up for the SC2 scene to get as large as it did in such a short time... how can you say korean BW (aka kespa) is the reason for sc2 being so big? kespa has been actively working to hurt sc2 up until this point and the korean scene has had to be dragged into the sc2 world. the only thing, imo. to thank korean bw for is teamliquid, and they hardly did that on purpose. yo examples please.
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On April 27 2012 11:59 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 11:47 turdburgler wrote:On April 27 2012 08:43 Bisu-Fan wrote:On April 26 2012 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.
TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash. Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it. But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them. What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off. yeah but at the same time they way they run things is the reason why BW lasts this long. haha yeah and i think you might have forgotten that BW was >10 years old and the eSports scene was crazy big when SC2 came out. BW literally opened the way up for the SC2 scene to get as large as it did in such a short time... how can you say korean BW (aka kespa) is the reason for sc2 being so big? kespa has been actively working to hurt sc2 up until this point and the korean scene has had to be dragged into the sc2 world. the only thing, imo. to thank korean bw for is teamliquid, and they hardly did that on purpose. yo examples please.
-"Prize Hunter" SC2 player bashing by KeSPA-affiliated media sites
-Alleged Lobbying of Korean Game Rating Board for +18 rating (averted with +12 version with no gore, which is still bullshit)
-Labelling GSL as Amateur League
-No GSL related news on sites like Fomos and DES until recently, and if any, they are biased article shed with negative light
-THAT COPYRIGHT WAR between Blizzard and KeSPA
And last but not least,
-Splitting the fanbase into two extremeties: SC2 vs BW.
Don't tell me it was SC2 fans who started that emnity, it was KeSPA.
Edit1: Actually there are plenty more but I won't bother listing them out when they could be found so easily with thread search.
Edit2: Discussing this any further will cause massive flamewar I'm sure. Let's stop here.
Edit3: Here. I did you a favor: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895
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On April 27 2012 12:24 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 11:59 ShadeR wrote:On April 27 2012 11:47 turdburgler wrote:On April 27 2012 08:43 Bisu-Fan wrote:On April 26 2012 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.
TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash. Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it. But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them. What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off. yeah but at the same time they way they run things is the reason why BW lasts this long. haha yeah and i think you might have forgotten that BW was >10 years old and the eSports scene was crazy big when SC2 came out. BW literally opened the way up for the SC2 scene to get as large as it did in such a short time... how can you say korean BW (aka kespa) is the reason for sc2 being so big? kespa has been actively working to hurt sc2 up until this point and the korean scene has had to be dragged into the sc2 world. the only thing, imo. to thank korean bw for is teamliquid, and they hardly did that on purpose. yo examples please. -"Prize Hunter" SC2 player bashing by KeSPA-affiliated media sites -Alleged Lobbying of Korean Game Rating Board for +18 rating (averted with +12 version with no gore, which is still bullshit) -Labelling GSL as Amateur League -No GSL related news on sites like Fomos and DES until recently, and if any, they are biased article shed with negative light -THAT COPYRIGHT WAR between Blizzard and KeSPA And last but not least, -Splitting the fanbase into two extremeties: SC2 vs BW. Don't tell me it was SC2 fans who started that emnity, it was KeSPA. Edit1: Actually there are plenty more but I won't bother listing them out when they could be found so easily with thread search. Edit2: Discussing this any further will cause massive flamewar I'm sure. Let's stop here. Edit3: Here. I did you a favor: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895
All this are merely your opinions and one biased korean view on the whole situation isn't going to make your argument strong . Stop with the caps please it isn't helping your point get through the net .
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On April 27 2012 12:51 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 12:24 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 11:59 ShadeR wrote:On April 27 2012 11:47 turdburgler wrote:On April 27 2012 08:43 Bisu-Fan wrote:On April 26 2012 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.
TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash. Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it. But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them. What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off. yeah but at the same time they way they run things is the reason why BW lasts this long. haha yeah and i think you might have forgotten that BW was >10 years old and the eSports scene was crazy big when SC2 came out. BW literally opened the way up for the SC2 scene to get as large as it did in such a short time... how can you say korean BW (aka kespa) is the reason for sc2 being so big? kespa has been actively working to hurt sc2 up until this point and the korean scene has had to be dragged into the sc2 world. the only thing, imo. to thank korean bw for is teamliquid, and they hardly did that on purpose. yo examples please. -"Prize Hunter" SC2 player bashing by KeSPA-affiliated media sites -Alleged Lobbying of Korean Game Rating Board for +18 rating (averted with +12 version with no gore, which is still bullshit) -Labelling GSL as Amateur League -No GSL related news on sites like Fomos and DES until recently, and if any, they are biased article shed with negative light -THAT COPYRIGHT WAR between Blizzard and KeSPA And last but not least, -Splitting the fanbase into two extremeties: SC2 vs BW. Don't tell me it was SC2 fans who started that emnity, it was KeSPA. Edit1: Actually there are plenty more but I won't bother listing them out when they could be found so easily with thread search. Edit2: Discussing this any further will cause massive flamewar I'm sure. Let's stop here. Edit3: Here. I did you a favor: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895 All this are merely your opinions and one biased korean view on the whole situation isn't going to make your argument strong . Stop with the caps please it isn't helping your point get through the net .
Nice try with downplaying.
DCInside SC2 Gallery, PlayXP, and maybe PGR21 share the same opinion more or less.
It's that obvious, even with shitty google translate.
Stop with the denial.
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On April 27 2012 12:53 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 12:51 Sawamura wrote:On April 27 2012 12:24 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 11:59 ShadeR wrote:On April 27 2012 11:47 turdburgler wrote:On April 27 2012 08:43 Bisu-Fan wrote:On April 26 2012 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.
TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash. Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it. But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them. What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off. yeah but at the same time they way they run things is the reason why BW lasts this long. haha yeah and i think you might have forgotten that BW was >10 years old and the eSports scene was crazy big when SC2 came out. BW literally opened the way up for the SC2 scene to get as large as it did in such a short time... how can you say korean BW (aka kespa) is the reason for sc2 being so big? kespa has been actively working to hurt sc2 up until this point and the korean scene has had to be dragged into the sc2 world. the only thing, imo. to thank korean bw for is teamliquid, and they hardly did that on purpose. yo examples please. -"Prize Hunter" SC2 player bashing by KeSPA-affiliated media sites -Alleged Lobbying of Korean Game Rating Board for +18 rating (averted with +12 version with no gore, which is still bullshit) -Labelling GSL as Amateur League -No GSL related news on sites like Fomos and DES until recently, and if any, they are biased article shed with negative light -THAT COPYRIGHT WAR between Blizzard and KeSPA And last but not least, -Splitting the fanbase into two extremeties: SC2 vs BW. Don't tell me it was SC2 fans who started that emnity, it was KeSPA. Edit1: Actually there are plenty more but I won't bother listing them out when they could be found so easily with thread search. Edit2: Discussing this any further will cause massive flamewar I'm sure. Let's stop here. Edit3: Here. I did you a favor: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895 All this are merely your opinions and one biased korean view on the whole situation isn't going to make your argument strong . Stop with the caps please it isn't helping your point get through the net . Nice try with downplaying. DCInside SC2 Gallery, PlayXP, and maybe PGR21 share the same opinion more or less. It's that obvious, even with shitty google translate. Stop with the denial.
Google translate sucks and most of the subtle and true meaning of the whole article usually get's lost in translation . It's not about down playing man you are merely throwing assumptions pasting a little bit of information from one guys take on the kespa and blizzard issue than assume it's fact huh ? . Not in denial because it seems that you guys in sc2 have already been indoctrinated that kespa is inherently evil and that's like in this day of age believing dragons still do exist .
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nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl.
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On April 27 2012 12:56 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 12:53 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 12:51 Sawamura wrote:On April 27 2012 12:24 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 11:59 ShadeR wrote:On April 27 2012 11:47 turdburgler wrote:On April 27 2012 08:43 Bisu-Fan wrote:On April 26 2012 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:
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Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it.
But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them. What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off. yeah but at the same time they way they run things is the reason why BW lasts this long. haha yeah and i think you might have forgotten that BW was >10 years old and the eSports scene was crazy big when SC2 came out. BW literally opened the way up for the SC2 scene to get as large as it did in such a short time... how can you say korean BW (aka kespa) is the reason for sc2 being so big? kespa has been actively working to hurt sc2 up until this point and the korean scene has had to be dragged into the sc2 world. the only thing, imo. to thank korean bw for is teamliquid, and they hardly did that on purpose. yo examples please. -"Prize Hunter" SC2 player bashing by KeSPA-affiliated media sites -Alleged Lobbying of Korean Game Rating Board for +18 rating (averted with +12 version with no gore, which is still bullshit) -Labelling GSL as Amateur League -No GSL related news on sites like Fomos and DES until recently, and if any, they are biased article shed with negative light -THAT COPYRIGHT WAR between Blizzard and KeSPA And last but not least, -Splitting the fanbase into two extremeties: SC2 vs BW. Don't tell me it was SC2 fans who started that emnity, it was KeSPA. Edit1: Actually there are plenty more but I won't bother listing them out when they could be found so easily with thread search. Edit2: Discussing this any further will cause massive flamewar I'm sure. Let's stop here. Edit3: Here. I did you a favor: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168895 All this are merely your opinions and one biased korean view on the whole situation isn't going to make your argument strong . Stop with the caps please it isn't helping your point get through the net . Nice try with downplaying. DCInside SC2 Gallery, PlayXP, and maybe PGR21 share the same opinion more or less. It's that obvious, even with shitty google translate. Stop with the denial. Google translate sucks and most of the subtle and true meaning of the whole article usually get's lost in translation . It's not about down playing man you are merely throwing assumptions pasting a little bit of information from one guys take on the kespa and blizzard issue than assume it's fact huh ? . Not in denial because it seems that you guys in sc2 have already been indoctrinated that kespa is inherently evil and that's like in this day of age believing dragons still do exist .
Hey, you've been here longer than I have, you should have connections with the guys up there who can translate for you.
Since you won't believe and will just downplay whatever I would put up here, ask Milkis or something, they can probably tell you more about how those communities think of KeSPA.
Though I gotta admit, KeSPA used to be good until they brought the big companies into the fray... at that point they started to fuck up big time.
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On April 27 2012 12:58 ShadeR wrote:
nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl.
What's wrong with Blizzard suing stations profitting off from Blizzard's game WITHOUT Blizzard's permission?
Gretech actually asked Blizzard before they started off their own league and Blizzard made Gretech pay only $1 USD.
Now what does that tell you?
And KeSPA did pull their players off from TG-Sambo Intel Classics with their bullshit excuses of they already have enough with OSL and MSL. Ha! As if KeSPA cared about players' welfare with their "chicken coop" training regime.
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On April 27 2012 13:07 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 12:58 ShadeR wrote:
nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl. What's wrong with Blizzard suing stations profitting off from Blizzard's game WITHOUT Blizzard's permission? Gretech actually asked Blizzard before they started off their own league and Blizzard made Gretech pay only $1 USD. Now what does that tell you? And KeSPA did pull their players off from TG-Sambo Intel Classics with their bullshit excuses of they already have enough with OSL and MSL. Ha! As if KeSPA cared about players' welfare with their "chicken coop" training regime.
your better than this.... each individual teams training conditions vary and for good reason... each team makes their own rules....
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On April 27 2012 13:12 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:07 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 12:58 ShadeR wrote:
nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl. What's wrong with Blizzard suing stations profitting off from Blizzard's game WITHOUT Blizzard's permission? Gretech actually asked Blizzard before they started off their own league and Blizzard made Gretech pay only $1 USD. Now what does that tell you? And KeSPA did pull their players off from TG-Sambo Intel Classics with their bullshit excuses of they already have enough with OSL and MSL. Ha! As if KeSPA cared about players' welfare with their "chicken coop" training regime. your better than this.... each individual teams training conditions vary and for good reason... each team makes their own rules....
Nice nitpicking. Alright, I'll play your game.
They are all more or less "chicken coop" tier.
They still don't get the same amount of freedom as the current GSL SC2 players do.
Have you seen any BW pros streaming their ladder games, like SC2 players?
Hell, MKP is streaming right now as I write this.
And aside from that, did you know that KeSPA banned those harmless soccer gathering between players to prevent them from forming an "union?"
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On April 27 2012 13:07 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 12:58 ShadeR wrote:
nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl. What's wrong with Blizzard suing stations profitting off from Blizzard's game WITHOUT Blizzard's permission? Gretech actually asked Blizzard before they started off their own league and Blizzard made Gretech pay only $1 USD. Now what does that tell you? And KeSPA did pull their players off from TG-Sambo Intel Classics with their bullshit excuses of they already have enough with OSL and MSL. Ha! As if KeSPA cared about players' welfare with their "chicken coop" training regime.
What that tells us? That you're incredibly biased and ignorant. Did you see the list of ridiculous demands blizzard gave KeSPA?
You're so full of shit it's not worth arguing with you. T_____T
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On April 27 2012 13:23 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:07 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 12:58 ShadeR wrote:
nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl. What's wrong with Blizzard suing stations profitting off from Blizzard's game WITHOUT Blizzard's permission? Gretech actually asked Blizzard before they started off their own league and Blizzard made Gretech pay only $1 USD. Now what does that tell you? And KeSPA did pull their players off from TG-Sambo Intel Classics with their bullshit excuses of they already have enough with OSL and MSL. Ha! As if KeSPA cared about players' welfare with their "chicken coop" training regime. What that tells us? That you're incredibly biased and ignorant. Did you see the list of ridiculous demands blizzard gave KeSPA? You're so full of shit it's not worth arguing with you. T_____T
Now you're going down with name calling, eh?
Nice setting example of fine posting.
Those demands weren't ridiculous at all.
It's Blizzard's game, not KeSPA's.
And KeSPA were still under NDA so they weren't supposed to release those terms to the outsiders without the express agreement of both sides.
You can try defend KeSPA all you want.
I can do this all day/night.
Bring it on.
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Don't. It's pointless. KeSPA is going to have to operate on Blizzard's terms this time around. They can't just suddenly go rogue, and it's definitely not in their best interest anymore since they pretty much lost BW as a profitable scene. What happened in the past isn't really relevant.
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On April 27 2012 13:28 xBillehx wrote:
Don't. It's pointless. KeSPA is going to have to operate on Blizzard's terms this time around. They can't just suddenly go rogue, and it's definitely not in their best interest anymore since they pretty much lost BW as a profitable scene. What happened in the past isn't really relevant.
That's like saying "OMG, it's all in the past! Give a pedo another chance to be a kindergarden teacher!"
Oh they'll go rogue one way or another, given their past history of their stupidity and greed.
If anyone can redefine the definition of stupidity and greed, it's KeSPA, believe me.
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On April 27 2012 13:23 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:07 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 12:58 ShadeR wrote:
nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl. What's wrong with Blizzard suing stations profitting off from Blizzard's game WITHOUT Blizzard's permission? Gretech actually asked Blizzard before they started off their own league and Blizzard made Gretech pay only $1 USD. Now what does that tell you? And KeSPA did pull their players off from TG-Sambo Intel Classics with their bullshit excuses of they already have enough with OSL and MSL. Ha! As if KeSPA cared about players' welfare with their "chicken coop" training regime. What that tells us? That you're incredibly biased and ignorant. Did you see the list of ridiculous demands blizzard gave KeSPA? You're so full of shit it's not worth arguing with you. T_____T
Many people would've realized this if they actually read and understood his signature. Though somewhat true at times, he just has huge dislike for KeSPA, maybe going little overboard at times.
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On April 27 2012 13:31 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:23 maybenexttime wrote:On April 27 2012 13:07 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 12:58 ShadeR wrote:
nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl. What's wrong with Blizzard suing stations profitting off from Blizzard's game WITHOUT Blizzard's permission? Gretech actually asked Blizzard before they started off their own league and Blizzard made Gretech pay only $1 USD. Now what does that tell you? And KeSPA did pull their players off from TG-Sambo Intel Classics with their bullshit excuses of they already have enough with OSL and MSL. Ha! As if KeSPA cared about players' welfare with their "chicken coop" training regime. What that tells us? That you're incredibly biased and ignorant. Did you see the list of ridiculous demands blizzard gave KeSPA? You're so full of shit it's not worth arguing with you. T_____T Many people would've realized this if they actually read and understood his quotes. Though somewhat true at times, he just has huge dislike for KeSPA, maybe going little overboard at times.
I don't know how you think KeSPA is somehow undeserving of the hate I'm giving, given that your sig is in Korean and you seem to know how things work in Korean scene, but I don't really care what you oldbies think of KeSPA.
I just won't have KeSPA being viewed in positive light in front of SC2 newbies.
Not on my watch.
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On April 27 2012 13:36 JiPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:31 supernovamaniac wrote:On April 27 2012 13:23 maybenexttime wrote:On April 27 2012 13:07 JiPrime wrote:On April 27 2012 12:58 ShadeR wrote:
nothing wrong with the first 3 points. point 4 is a result of the position held in point 3.
blizzard sued ogn and mbc.
GET OUTA MAH HOUSE
read the link you posted. got upto point 12. where kespa tells players not to play in gom. stopped reading and rofl. What's wrong with Blizzard suing stations profitting off from Blizzard's game WITHOUT Blizzard's permission? Gretech actually asked Blizzard before they started off their own league and Blizzard made Gretech pay only $1 USD. Now what does that tell you? And KeSPA did pull their players off from TG-Sambo Intel Classics with their bullshit excuses of they already have enough with OSL and MSL. Ha! As if KeSPA cared about players' welfare with their "chicken coop" training regime. What that tells us? That you're incredibly biased and ignorant. Did you see the list of ridiculous demands blizzard gave KeSPA? You're so full of shit it's not worth arguing with you. T_____T Many people would've realized this if they actually read and understood his quotes. Though somewhat true at times, he just has huge dislike for KeSPA, maybe going little overboard at times. I don't know how you think KeSPA is somehow undeserving of the hate I'm giving, given that your sig is in Korean and you seem to know how things work in Korean scene, but I don't really care what you oldbies think of KeSPA. I just won't have KeSPA being viewed in positive light in front of SC2 newbies. Not on my watch.
I'm not denying that KeSPA did the wrong things in the past nor ignoring them, and yes I know people hate KeSPA (on boards and everywhere etc).
I still don't understand why you're trying to pass your own idea to others though; stating the facts is alright and pointing them out is okay if its done in an unbiased manner. All I've gotten from your past is that you have something against KeSPA (maybe something personal, I don't know) and you're just trying to spread your own opinions on the forums, and trying to argue that those are facts.
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