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GoldEagle
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada3 Posts
May 03 2012 02:36 GMT
#801
i think these brood war pros and legends will have a hard time at first because unlike brood war, sc2 takes less mechanics and its all u to decision making. Well i dont know . Jaedong was well known for his micro, macro, and his perfect mechanics. Flash was well known for a tank. both awesome players, but i just think they will have a harder time in sc2 than brood war.
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OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
May 03 2012 02:44 GMT
#802
On May 03 2012 11:36 GoldEagle wrote:
i think these brood war pros and legends will have a hard time at first because unlike brood war, sc2 takes less mechanics and its all u to decision making. Well i dont know . Jaedong was well known for his micro, macro, and his perfect mechanics. Flash was well known for a tank. both awesome players, but i just think they will have a harder time in sc2 than brood war.

jaedong is actually more well known for his decision making and mental attributes than his micro, macro and mechanics.
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GoldEagle
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada3 Posts
May 03 2012 02:46 GMT
#803
On May 03 2012 11:44 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
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On May 03 2012 11:36 GoldEagle wrote:
i think these brood war pros and legends will have a hard time at first because unlike brood war, sc2 takes less mechanics and its all u to decision making. Well i dont know . Jaedong was well known for his micro, macro, and his perfect mechanics. Flash was well known for a tank. both awesome players, but i just think they will have a harder time in sc2 than brood war.

jaedong is actually more well known for his decision making and mental attributes than his micro, macro and mechanics.

well yea. wtf am i saying lol. he was pro at everything. im just scared they wont be as good as they were in brood war. like not as good as MKP or DRG for example. well. sigh . we'll see
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Smat
Profile Joined January 2011
United States301 Posts
May 03 2012 03:01 GMT
#804
I am going to laugh when all the apologists come out after a few of these transitioning broodwar players fail to make it to the top of the skill field in sc2.
sc2CruSha
Profile Joined August 2010
United States105 Posts
May 03 2012 03:21 GMT
#805
On May 03 2012 09:13 setzer wrote:
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On May 03 2012 08:39 Malpractice.248 wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:35 grush57 wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:33 Malpractice.248 wrote:
And, the fact BW pros might not transition as well.
Youre assuming BW pros makes them some god at sc2, without having seem them play, or anything. Just because they played BW.

Koreans just have great practice methods, and have playing the RTS genre much longer. Ofc youll say OMG BW pros are SO MUCH BETTER THEY GONNA DOMINATE -- some of these new people havent dedicated 10 years to a genre. That doesnt mean they will win every game and championship; there are upsets.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NaNiwa
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stephano

they seem to do fine, they werent BW pros.


Yea but they were wc3 pros, which is another rts.


Thats my point. Its not BW that makes a player good. Its RTS experience. If someone who played AOE for 12 years 10 hours a day, then switched (give him a year to adjust) he could make a run as well.
Saying "OMG BW PROS WILL DOMINATE 100% ONCE THIS HAPPENS" is just ridiculous to assume that BW = GOD PLAYER, when, stephano and naniwa show it doesnt.

Theyll have their ups and downs like everyone else.
Boxer was the best in BW for a long time, now hes a consistant code A player. Just saying. (Not to knock on him, love him)


Even when other RTS games had pretty big competitive scenes it was quite accepted that the skill level of those games were no where near that of BW. Just playing BW doesn't make one amazing and not every pro is going to be better than current players, but it is safe bet when one is a part of the most competitive e-sport playing arguably the highest skill level game they will be good in SC2.

Boxer hasn't been good in BW since 2005 yet he has been top3 in international tournaments and has made Code S.


actually boxer hasn't been good in bw since 2002 T_T* and even then when you take the time you look back at skill that early on.. everyone was actually really bad.. boxer stood out with just very nice micro
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
May 03 2012 03:23 GMT
#806
boxer is the fucking emperor he was always amazing at bw
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
May 03 2012 03:24 GMT
#807
when are they starting with the all sc2 games?
duracell
Profile Joined April 2011
53 Posts
May 03 2012 03:42 GMT
#808
On May 02 2012 15:52 Fragile51 wrote:
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On May 02 2012 15:48 Groog wrote:
On May 02 2012 15:24 McFeser wrote:
On May 02 2012 15:21 windsupernova wrote:
On May 02 2012 14:50 Siffer wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:50 zhurai wrote:
On May 02 2012 12:32 zokj wrote:
are kespa players allowed to stream?


iirc jaedong/etc weren't allowed to stream with hiya (at least from what I remember on that topic?), but was allowed to play games with hiya that hiya could stream.... but they couldn't even stream on afreeca

so I somewhat doubt it? oo



I think with blizzard acting as puppet master, KeSPA will have to loosen its grip on their players. I think kespa players streaming is a good possibility; however, I doubt many of them will stream even if they have permission. Hell, I doubt many of them will even ladder. kespa pros have such a sick practice regiment that there isn't any time for leisure ladder time.


Lol, why do people act as if Blizzard is the stronger partner in this? KESPA is backed by corporations that are worth much more than Vivendi. Blizzard won't be doing any puppeteering soon

Vivendi is like 18 billion and is larger than EA. So this is actually a sincere question - how much money is backing KESPA?


Samsung is pretty big


As are the Telecom companies backing KT and SKT1. There's a lot of money backing KESPA.


No point comparing which company has more money -- the budget allotted for Starcraft related events is likely similar and easily affordable by any company half their size. Not likely the companies will be digging very deep for any of this.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 03 2012 04:02 GMT
#809
On May 03 2012 12:24 GT350 wrote:
when are they starting with the all sc2 games?

I think OGN/KeSPA is planning on announcing their format during the second week of May, and will start with the hybrid SC2/BW Proleague in the third week of May.

Or at least that is what I've read so far on ESFI World's transcript.
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