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Blizzard-KeSPA-OGN-GOM SC2 Announcement May 2nd - Page 16

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Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
April 26 2012 17:23 GMT
#301
This sound super huge!
I think the more tourney there will be in korea the better it will be for everyone : better for sc2 in Korea, better for foreigner, better for korean programmer, better for us spectator.
It's good to be back
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
April 26 2012 17:27 GMT
#302
On April 27 2012 01:57 Lordanubis wrote:
Have to admit I am hoping something happens which breaks this up.

I do not think Kespa moving in will be a good thing for SC2 globally at all. In Korea maybe, but not globally.

Very nervous - I will be extremely disheartened if this spoils the great relationship GOM have worked to build up between the scenes.


But Sundance keeps dropping hints about working with kespa and broodwar players at MLG. Why would he be working out deals with the organization that is going to hurt his business and spoil the relationship with korea? It doesn't make any sense!

People in this thread should tell him and blizzard that they are making a huge mistake that will kill esports outside of Korea.
Lordanubis
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom198 Posts
April 26 2012 17:28 GMT
#303
On April 27 2012 02:21 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 01:57 Lordanubis wrote:
Have to admit I am hoping something happens which breaks this up.

I do not think Kespa moving in will be a good thing for SC2 globally at all. In Korea maybe, but not globally.

Very nervous - I will be extremely disheartened if this spoils the great relationship GOM have worked to build up between the scenes.


even kespa know how much money they can make in the foreign scene.. all the big tournaments likeMLG, dreamhack none of these happened as big as they are in BW, times change they will take full advatnage of that!!!

Quote from here, by the STX coach: http://notyuna.parkjiyeon.net/post/21468962777/sc2-discussion-with-kespa-progaming-team-coaches

"Some say sending Korean players to overseas SC2 market is globalization and expansion. I see it as a reduction of our domestic eSports scene. Yes, earning foreign currencies overseas is good for players, but for so many years we’ve declared ourselves the leading eSports country, and it sounds like we’ve given up on being the leader now. If we had a strong infrastructure here and sold only the contents overseas, the players wouldn’t need to go far away to have a sustainable career."

This makes me think completely the opposite. There is significant potential here for them to wreck the established state of the scene.
"Hell hath no fury like a Shattered Star" - The Shattered Star
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 26 2012 17:29 GMT
#304
the announcements just keep on coming
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
RunningInSquares
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States215 Posts
April 26 2012 17:37 GMT
#305
I can always get my hopes up and think it's an announcement of a new patch for BroodWar and that GOM really wants to just say they think it's a cool and fair patch...

T_____T
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
April 26 2012 17:37 GMT
#306
On April 27 2012 02:37 RunningInSquares wrote:
I can always get my hopes up and think it's an announcement of a new patch for BroodWar and that GOM really wants to just say they think it's a cool and fair patch...

T_____T


SC:BW ProMod!
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
April 26 2012 17:38 GMT
#307
On April 27 2012 02:28 Lordanubis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 02:21 Tommylew wrote:
On April 27 2012 01:57 Lordanubis wrote:
Have to admit I am hoping something happens which breaks this up.

I do not think Kespa moving in will be a good thing for SC2 globally at all. In Korea maybe, but not globally.

Very nervous - I will be extremely disheartened if this spoils the great relationship GOM have worked to build up between the scenes.


even kespa know how much money they can make in the foreign scene.. all the big tournaments likeMLG, dreamhack none of these happened as big as they are in BW, times change they will take full advatnage of that!!!

Quote from here, by the STX coach: http://notyuna.parkjiyeon.net/post/21468962777/sc2-discussion-with-kespa-progaming-team-coaches

Show nested quote +
"Some say sending Korean players to overseas SC2 market is globalization and expansion. I see it as a reduction of our domestic eSports scene. Yes, earning foreign currencies overseas is good for players, but for so many years we’ve declared ourselves the leading eSports country, and it sounds like we’ve given up on being the leader now. If we had a strong infrastructure here and sold only the contents overseas, the players wouldn’t need to go far away to have a sustainable career."

This makes me think completely the opposite. There is significant potential here for them to wreck the established state of the scene.

Yep, this is a move to save the Korean scene. There is little doubt about that. It can even destroy the foreign scene if top players/Koreans on foreign teams are forced into joining Korean teams in order to play against the top competition.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
April 26 2012 17:39 GMT
#308
Here we go, here we go, here we go!!!
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
April 26 2012 17:40 GMT
#309
On April 27 2012 02:28 Lordanubis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 02:21 Tommylew wrote:
On April 27 2012 01:57 Lordanubis wrote:
Have to admit I am hoping something happens which breaks this up.

I do not think Kespa moving in will be a good thing for SC2 globally at all. In Korea maybe, but not globally.

Very nervous - I will be extremely disheartened if this spoils the great relationship GOM have worked to build up between the scenes.


even kespa know how much money they can make in the foreign scene.. all the big tournaments likeMLG, dreamhack none of these happened as big as they are in BW, times change they will take full advatnage of that!!!

Quote from here, by the STX coach: http://notyuna.parkjiyeon.net/post/21468962777/sc2-discussion-with-kespa-progaming-team-coaches

Show nested quote +
"Some say sending Korean players to overseas SC2 market is globalization and expansion. I see it as a reduction of our domestic eSports scene. Yes, earning foreign currencies overseas is good for players, but for so many years we’ve declared ourselves the leading eSports country, and it sounds like we’ve given up on being the leader now. If we had a strong infrastructure here and sold only the contents overseas, the players wouldn’t need to go far away to have a sustainable career."

This makes me think completely the opposite. There is significant potential here for them to wreck the established state of the scene.

By "wreck" you mean "provide an opportunity for Koreans to make it big in their own country." If playing Sc2 is to be a respectable profession, then it needs to be possible without constantly being out of one's country. Right now, this is possible for foreigners. It's not possible for most Koreans. Nobody is saying there needs to be no foreigners at Korean events or vice-verse, but only that there's more opportunity for everyone.
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
April 26 2012 17:41 GMT
#310
The expected response to LoL's aggressive expansion in the korean market, last ditch-all hands on deck effort.

This is make or break for korean sc2.
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
April 26 2012 17:42 GMT
#311
I don't think the STX coach's comments suggest they want to dismantle the foreigner scene. It sounds more like they want to first establish the Korean scene, which is sensible. I'm completley fine with every MLG not including a billion Korean players to win everything, and hope we go back to the days of having 4-6 instead of double or triple that. And of course, most likely the current SC2 teams will still be sending folks over here anyway. We will see Flash play in the US, it's going to happen. Will he play in every foreigner event? No. And I'm 100% fine with that.

There will be a strong relationship simply because there is infinitely more money available in NA/EU than Korea.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 26 2012 17:44 GMT
#312
So GOM is going to replace MBC and the GSL the MSL ?

uh
ॐ
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
April 26 2012 17:45 GMT
#313
I will prob not be the only one spamming F5 on May 2nd!


!! Pumped !!
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SamsLiST
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 17:47:15
April 26 2012 17:46 GMT
#314
announcementception

can*t see how so many seem to be suprised by that
roumors about the annoucement of a huge e-sports-announcement inc have been around since forever...
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
April 26 2012 17:48 GMT
#315
Hopefully it will be a good birthday present for me
BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
April 26 2012 17:51 GMT
#316
You know, this should feel like great news. The feud between Blizz and Kespa seems to have settled, all major parts are gathering together to co-operate. But somehow my gut is saying that this could turn into the worst shitstorm ever, overshadowing even the bw match fixing scandal.

Hopefully this will help e-sports grow(whatever the hell that means ), lead it into an era greater than the "old bw" days
My esports soul belongs to: Boxer | White-Ra | Daigo Umehara | Nazgul | IceFrog
Lordanubis
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom198 Posts
April 26 2012 17:51 GMT
#317
I read it as "our players won't need to go abroad at all because we'll be providing them with all the money they need, and all the best competition here". Maybe that is pessimistic, but with a relatively open ended statement like that I'd argue it's definately a valid intepretation.

The foreign scene is as great as it is now because these top players come and participate, and because our tournaments are more legitimate in terms of quality as a result. Do we need 75% Korean brackets at MLG or Dreamhack? No. But I'd argue that a good proportion of Koreans, which is about what we have now I'd say, is required in order for foreign tournaments to be seen as legitimately top quality. Having Koreans like HerO and Taeja on foreign teams is also a very good thing, as it increases the quality of foreign teams and in turn therefore gives foreign fans more enjoyable top class games to watch.

GOM have been great in this regard, as they've worked in some ways to actively encourage players to go abroad and participate to help make the global scene stronger. Whether it's reduce or eliminate that, the quote sounds very much like they want the scene to be far more insular. To me, that's very damaging for the foreign scene - though the degree of which of course depends on the exact specifics of how much they withdraw.
"Hell hath no fury like a Shattered Star" - The Shattered Star
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
April 26 2012 17:55 GMT
#318
On April 26 2012 23:06 NPF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 22:59 saksy2 wrote:
On April 26 2012 22:56 Crushgroove wrote:
wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.

I'll bite then. I don't like that Sundance represents the whole foreign scene in dealing with Kespa


Perhaps it's just because he has already dealt more often with Gom or they talked to IGN before and said Sundance can go or something of the sorts. He also has the most experience with dealing with events with multiple game titles and adding new games to events.

I think Sundance gets it.

Sundance would do a better job of negotiating business dealings than the guy that runs IPL4. That man (I forgot his name) comes off as being too nice, whereas Sundance has stated that he intends to make MLG the premier tournament in the world. Someone who states that won't just let the Koreans demand whatever they want.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 26 2012 17:55 GMT
#319
The amount of negativity in this thread is just further proof that no matter what announcement or thread anyone in this scene makes, there will be those who try to pour cold water on it just because they are negative people by nature. It's simply retarded to suggest that this could be bad for esports, considering that kespa and others have already publically said they are very interested in working with the international fans.

Just goes to show you that the negativity in these kinds of threads is nothing but small people's attempts to bring things down and destroy positivity. The best thing to do is not even quote or respond to those posts, as that only gives them the attention that keeps them going.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 26 2012 18:02 GMT
#320
I don't think they will hype it up so much and then make it a completely failed negotiation. The meetings have already gone down, this is just an announcement. I am so excited!
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