• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:27
CEST 11:27
KST 18:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 20262Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)77Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Fantasy returning? Sagi.gg Launcher Released SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8842 users

Blizzard-KeSPA-OGN-GOM SC2 Announcement May 2nd - Page 14

Forum Index > SC2 General
808 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 41 Next All
RoboPuG
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden29 Posts
April 26 2012 13:50 GMT
#261
On April 26 2012 22:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
bye bye Brood War.

now Brood War can stand on my bookshelf along side Age of Empires, Fire Pro Wrestling, MULE, Intellivision Utopia, as great but dead strategy titles.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323013

If this is still true BW ain't going away just yet. The mixed league will probably decide IF and when BW ceases to exist in Proleague. Hopefully it stays.
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
April 26 2012 13:52 GMT
#262
It's a shame if BW really does die, I'd still like to watch the occasional match. That said, since BW-SC2 relations have been kinda "strained" (if you know what I mean) since SC2's release, so this could maybe open the way to mini or just-for-fun BW tournies between SC2 pros, which would be sweet and maybe a nice way to keep BW kinda current in peoples' hearts.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 26 2012 13:54 GMT
#263
On April 26 2012 20:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:
On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:
On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.

TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash.

Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it.

But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them.


What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off.

sc2 took off everywhere except korea without kespa.

and 98% of the foreigners are still terrible after that "taking off". No, Im not exaggerating.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
April 26 2012 13:55 GMT
#264
I think I'll be sceptical on this one..

Blizzard might fuck it up or something..

lets see..
T H C makes ppl happy
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
April 26 2012 13:56 GMT
#265
wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.
[In Korea on Vaca] "Why would I go to the park and climb a mountain? There are video games on f*cking TV!" - Kazuke
vicml21
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada165 Posts
April 26 2012 13:56 GMT
#266
LOL announcements of announcements. Only Blizzard can get people excited for something like that.
"Meow" - Probe
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3821 Posts
April 26 2012 13:56 GMT
#267
I really hope they don't mix BW and SC2 in the same tournament, that would be beyond retarded!
For the Swarm!
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
April 26 2012 13:58 GMT
#268
I can't wait to see what the announcement is. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint =D
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
April 26 2012 13:59 GMT
#269
On April 26 2012 22:56 Crushgroove wrote:
wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.

I'll bite then. I don't like that Sundance represents the whole foreign scene in dealing with Kespa
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
April 26 2012 14:06 GMT
#270
On April 26 2012 22:59 saksy2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 22:56 Crushgroove wrote:
wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.

I'll bite then. I don't like that Sundance represents the whole foreign scene in dealing with Kespa


Perhaps it's just because he has already dealt more often with Gom or they talked to IGN before and said Sundance can go or something of the sorts. He also has the most experience with dealing with events with multiple game titles and adding new games to events.

I think Sundance gets it.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
April 26 2012 14:07 GMT
#271
flash raping everybody incoming
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 26 2012 14:10 GMT
#272
On April 26 2012 23:06 NPF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 22:59 saksy2 wrote:
On April 26 2012 22:56 Crushgroove wrote:
wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.

I'll bite then. I don't like that Sundance represents the whole foreign scene in dealing with Kespa


Perhaps it's just because he has already dealt more often with Gom or they talked to IGN before and said Sundance can go or something of the sorts. He also has the most experience with dealing with events with multiple game titles and adding new games to events.

I think Sundance gets it.


He fired that guy, etc etc etc.

Seriously though, i don't mind that Sundance is the representative of the foreign scene in all of this. He seems to know what he's doing and he's very good at creating cooperations between multiple organisations.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
April 26 2012 14:16 GMT
#273
On April 26 2012 22:54 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 20:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:
On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:
On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.

TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash.

Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it.

But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them.


What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off.

sc2 took off everywhere except korea without kespa.

and 98% of the foreigners are still terrible after that "taking off". No, Im not exaggerating.

98% of all BW players are also terrible (also in Korea). so whats your point?
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 26 2012 14:22 GMT
#274
I'm a bit skeptical but for all I know, something good might still come out of this.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 14:27:20
April 26 2012 14:24 GMT
#275
I have such a bad feeling about this.
Poor GOM, they've done hardest part and now KeSPA is coming to, probably, ruin everything.

(it's just probably me hating on changes, oh god how i hate changes...)
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Thewildfish
Profile Joined September 2010
United States113 Posts
April 26 2012 14:27 GMT
#276
holy crap rofl so many announcements of awesome things in so little time <3 <3
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
April 26 2012 14:35 GMT
#277
On April 26 2012 23:22 Jongl0 wrote:
I'm a bit skeptical but for all I know, something good might still come out of this.


Yes I think it's something good. I highly doubt they decided to get together to say. Hello fans of SC2 we've decided to kill e-sports.

Sarcasm aside, it probably league managament annoucements of the sort. Kespa players are allowed to play in GSL and MLG with some free trips to some Kespa team players to go to international events that MLG organises. Also all SC2 players that have received high spots at SC2 tournaments can join Kespa teams without a liscence or something along those lines.

Maybe not the last part since then it will be Kespa buying up Korean players instead of Liquid and EG =P. We can't have that can we. Not to mention current SC2 teams in Korea would be up in arms
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
April 26 2012 14:39 GMT
#278
i hope kespa would exercise some pressure on blizzard to finally implement lan mode for their broadcast matches.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 26 2012 14:40 GMT
#279
On April 26 2012 23:39 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
i hope kespa would exercise some pressure on blizzard to finally implement lan mode for their broadcast matches.


LoL doesn't have a lan mode and OGN runs tournaments for that. More likely is Blizzard just adds some type of resume game feature.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
April 26 2012 14:56 GMT
#280
wow.
Wishing you well.
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 163
EnDerr 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15092
Hyuk 555
Soma 182
Stork 172
actioN 164
Rush 164
Bisu 163
EffOrt 96
Mong 84
Shinee 70
[ Show more ]
NotJumperer 59
Shine 57
ToSsGirL 56
Killer 51
Bale 43
Hm[arnc] 30
Sharp 30
Noble 27
ajuk12(nOOB) 24
Pusan 19
yabsab 15
Sacsri 12
HiyA 10
sorry 7
Dota 2
Gorgc2258
League of Legends
JimRising 411
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1219
shoxiejesuss767
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King141
Other Games
gofns28287
summit1g7601
singsing1206
ceh9517
crisheroes150
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick683
BasetradeTV148
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream30
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 22
• StrangeGG 20
• killerbeecast2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV173
• lizZardDota2151
League of Legends
• Stunt399
Other Games
• Shiphtur729
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
34m
INu's Battles
1h 34m
Percival vs SHIN
Zoun vs herO
OSC
3h 34m
OSC
12h 49m
Replay Cast
13h 34m
OSC
1d 13h
Big Brain Bouts
2 days
Rex vs INexorable
GgMaChine vs HeRoMaRinE
Reynor vs herO
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Patches Events
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.