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On April 26 2012 22:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
bye bye Brood War.
now Brood War can stand on my bookshelf along side Age of Empires, Fire Pro Wrestling, MULE, Intellivision Utopia, as great but dead strategy titles.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323013
If this is still true BW ain't going away just yet. The mixed league will probably decide IF and when BW ceases to exist in Proleague. Hopefully it stays.
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It's a shame if BW really does die, I'd still like to watch the occasional match. That said, since BW-SC2 relations have been kinda "strained" (if you know what I mean) since SC2's release, so this could maybe open the way to mini or just-for-fun BW tournies between SC2 pros, which would be sweet and maybe a nice way to keep BW kinda current in peoples' hearts.
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On April 26 2012 20:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.
TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash. Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it. But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them. What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off. sc2 took off everywhere except korea without kespa.
and 98% of the foreigners are still terrible after that "taking off". No, Im not exaggerating.
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I think I'll be sceptical on this one..
Blizzard might fuck it up or something..
lets see..
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wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.
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LOL announcements of announcements. Only Blizzard can get people excited for something like that.
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I really hope they don't mix BW and SC2 in the same tournament, that would be beyond retarded!
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I can't wait to see what the announcement is. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint =D
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On April 26 2012 22:56 Crushgroove wrote:
wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.
I'll bite then. I don't like that Sundance represents the whole foreign scene in dealing with Kespa
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On April 26 2012 22:59 saksy2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 22:56 Crushgroove wrote:
wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.
I'll bite then. I don't like that Sundance represents the whole foreign scene in dealing with Kespa
Perhaps it's just because he has already dealt more often with Gom or they talked to IGN before and said Sundance can go or something of the sorts. He also has the most experience with dealing with events with multiple game titles and adding new games to events.
I think Sundance gets it.
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flash raping everybody incoming
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On April 26 2012 23:06 NPF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 22:59 saksy2 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:56 Crushgroove wrote:
wow. Everyone playing nice? Hard to believe.
I'll bite then. I don't like that Sundance represents the whole foreign scene in dealing with Kespa Perhaps it's just because he has already dealt more often with Gom or they talked to IGN before and said Sundance can go or something of the sorts. He also has the most experience with dealing with events with multiple game titles and adding new games to events. I think Sundance gets it.
He fired that guy, etc etc etc.
Seriously though, i don't mind that Sundance is the representative of the foreign scene in all of this. He seems to know what he's doing and he's very good at creating cooperations between multiple organisations.
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On April 26 2012 22:54 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 20:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote:On April 26 2012 20:25 Venomsflame wrote:On April 26 2012 19:58 Djagulingu wrote:On April 26 2012 19:50 Aetherial wrote:
The involvement of KESPA in anything like this always makes me anxious. Their organisational culture has been to command & conquer with an iron fist, their past actions and current BW structure show this. Knowing the corporate world, there will be a lot of political power plays going on in the background right now. I'm sure Blizzard and GOM will be wary of KESPA, so it will be interesting to see what agreement comes out. I'm really hoping KESPA will be marginalized, but I'm sure they won't do so without a fight.
TBH I feel sorry for GOM and the participating GSL SC2 teams, they have done all the heavy lifting to bring the global SC2 and Korean SC2 scenes together. My bet would be that KESPA's plan will be to play nice at first, extract all the value, and then strong arm them into submission. Blizzard won't really care as long as they continue to make mountains of cash. Considering you only have joined in 2010 and how deep of a knowledge you have on KeSPA and their organizational culture, I have to ask you about which sources you use for your credibility. I wonder that too. As far as I know, KeSPA (despite all their mistakes in the past) ran the scene quite well up to now. For more than 10 years. Their only major mistake is (in my opinion) to try and exclude GOM and now they are fixing it. But as I have said before, I like to learn further about KeSPA and what makes you anxious about them. What. KeSPA is terrible. The way they run things is a huge reason of why BW never really got out of Korea. Look at SC2 without them and how quickly it took off. sc2 took off everywhere except korea without kespa. and 98% of the foreigners are still terrible after that "taking off". No, Im not exaggerating.
98% of all BW players are also terrible (also in Korea). so whats your point?
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I'm a bit skeptical but for all I know, something good might still come out of this.
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I have such a bad feeling about this. 
Poor GOM, they've done hardest part and now KeSPA is coming to, probably, ruin everything.
(it's just probably me hating on changes, oh god how i hate changes...)
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holy crap rofl so many announcements of awesome things in so little time <3 <3
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On April 26 2012 23:22 Jongl0 wrote:
I'm a bit skeptical but for all I know, something good might still come out of this.
Yes I think it's something good. I highly doubt they decided to get together to say. Hello fans of SC2 we've decided to kill e-sports.
Sarcasm aside, it probably league managament annoucements of the sort. Kespa players are allowed to play in GSL and MLG with some free trips to some Kespa team players to go to international events that MLG organises. Also all SC2 players that have received high spots at SC2 tournaments can join Kespa teams without a liscence or something along those lines.
Maybe not the last part since then it will be Kespa buying up Korean players instead of Liquid and EG =P. We can't have that can we. Not to mention current SC2 teams in Korea would be up in arms
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i hope kespa would exercise some pressure on blizzard to finally implement lan mode for their broadcast matches.
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On April 26 2012 23:39 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
i hope kespa would exercise some pressure on blizzard to finally implement lan mode for their broadcast matches.
LoL doesn't have a lan mode and OGN runs tournaments for that. More likely is Blizzard just adds some type of resume game feature.
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