I really really enjoy it.
If you play someone lower, you get repetition and an exercise of mechanics, and if you play someone higher, it's a challenge to your build efficiency, execution, and decision making.
I played 2 GM's on kr today, felt supremely outclassed, and I'm not sure I've ever learned so much from a replay.
Embrace the change, exploit and use the positives.

ZarakiK

United Kingdom27 Posts

April 25 2012 04:06 GMT

#242

Thank you Blizzard ! *starting ladder*

LazinCajun

United States294 Posts

April 25 2012 05:32 GMT

#243

At first I was for this, but after playing with it a while I'm not a fan. The people I've been matched against have generally been so far above or below my level that it's just not fun, and I don't feel like I'm learning a lot.

Maybe I need to ind a new way of approaching ladder now.

Mendelfist

Sweden356 Posts

April 25 2012 05:44 GMT

#244

On April 25 2012 06:01 roym899 wrote:

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Funny how the ranking of your opponent bothers you. Tbh I don't even look at this at the top of the screen as this doesn't tell you anything. For example you could see your opponent as Favored and he sees you as favored. So your graph doesn't tell you anything at all.
Just play this game and have fun dude. Really some guys just take this really to serious. I can understand if you critisize it if you are Top Masters player and ladder play isn't as efficiant traning anymore but as Blizz said the effect won't take place in the top notch places so it shouldn't bother you too.

At all complaining: Why do you play ladder? To win? Or to get better? Or to have fun? The last two are completely irrelevant from the opponent you get.

You are wrong. The data for this graph is calculated after every match, and it does tells you exactly what I said it does, the variance in my opponents MMR. Read up on how he ladder works if you didn't understand it. And don't tell me what should bother me and what shouldn't.

IMoperator

4476 Posts

April 25 2012 05:49 GMT

#245

One thing I've learned is that diamond is a lot cheesier than I remembered.

MenithZ

France21 Posts

April 25 2012 05:53 GMT

#246

On April 25 2012 14:49 IMoperator wrote:
One thing I've learned is that diamond is a lot cheesier than I remembered.

Thank god I wasn't the only one haha.

magnaflow

Canada1521 Posts

April 25 2012 06:19 GMT

#247

The way I see it is Blizzard made this change to try and satisfy the illusion people seem to have of playing better then someone else, yet still lose. Now there won't be no mistake, either you will win because you are much better, or you will lose because you are much worse.

Maybe they also see it as less stress. It might be less stressfull losing to someone who you know is much better then you. Unfortunatley it is not as fun for the winner.

And please stop with the "I learned so much from playing that 1 higher league guy" It's bullshit, you could learn just as much from an evenly matched opponent. There are literally thousands of replays that anyone could go and find to learn from.
Anyone that thinks they are going to learn anything from getting raped from someone 2 leagues above them are completely wrong. The reason why you lost to the Diamond player is the same reason you are losing against someone in your own league.

Not a good change IMO, it's not fun, knowing I am going to get stomped 5 minutes into a match, or knowing that I will be doing the stomping 5 minutes in is not a good time.

Don't fix it if it ain't broke, focus your energy where it s needed Blizzard, there are so many more problems that need to be addressed.

coL.hendralisk

Zimbabwe1756 Posts

April 25 2012 06:24 GMT

#248

Haven't really felt anything changed for me

DarthExecute

United States1 Post

April 25 2012 09:00 GMT

#249

I am plat and I have been playing mid gold players. I do not mind but they might because they aren't ready for it. Its like when I get put against diamond and they rock me lol

Glurkenspurk

United States1915 Posts

April 25 2012 09:18 GMT

#250

guys it's cool ladder totally works

1st game vs GM: http://sc2ranks.com/us/310525/SinFeo

http://i.imgur.com/IPjDl.jpg

2nd game vs diamond: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2677659/Protech

http://i.imgur.com/z2ipS.jpg

Played in that order.

my account for reference: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2661006/Glurkenspurk

syriuszonito

Poland332 Posts

April 25 2012 09:36 GMT

#251

Cant actually believe ppl enjoy getting much worse or much better opponents instead of the same skillwise. Terrible change.

Sadform

United Kingdom79 Posts

April 25 2012 09:41 GMT

#252

These changes suck. I'm in diamond and havn't had a 'even' match in ages. Yesterday I played a zerg in a zvz who went 14p 3x spines evo 2xspore into expand. Granted I had fun playing about with him, but it sucks and you dont learn jack all.

j1nzo

Germany367 Posts

April 25 2012 09:46 GMT

#253

have a feeling this will not be the last time they fix the match making...

AKnopf

Germany259 Posts

April 25 2012 10:05 GMT

#254

I think its great.

For me as a diamond (EU) player its nice to have the different play styles of diamond and master. And to be honest, I have the same win rate against master as against diamond. I even won against TOP8 master and right after that i lost to a platinum player.

This is good news: More variety and while being stumped or stumping myself at all.

imre

France9263 Posts

April 25 2012 10:09 GMT

#255

time to cg and stop laddering....

Drake

Germany6146 Posts

April 25 2012 10:21 GMT

#256

there should be make a fun picture like

HAVING THE BEST AUTOMATCHMAKING SYSTEM IN HISTORY

Change it so you get enemys not on your level

blizzard and sc2 could be so proud that their system always gets you enemy EXACTLY on your level so you have 50% and every game is 40 minute superfun and now they make it like all the other "bad" system works and call it evolution ?

i dont get it

battleboy

Germany60 Posts

April 25 2012 10:34 GMT

#257

I like that change i hope Blizzard will keep it up for the upcoming seasons and dont change it back...

stinkycop

Israel5 Posts

April 25 2012 10:58 GMT

#258

If I would like to play "relax" games I would just play on custom games with higher or lower skill player then me.
That's why there are custom games.
The new ladder system is realy realy bad... all the games are "Favored" or "slightly favored", which makes me want to stop laddering.

Mrvoodoochild1

United States1439 Posts

April 25 2012 10:58 GMT

#259

On April 25 2012 18:36 syriuszonito wrote:
Cant actually believe ppl enjoy getting much worse or much better opponents instead of the same skillwise. Terrible change.

You have to understand that alot of free wins come out of this system for players that are matched up against those much worse then them. I don't like the system either but I get why some people do. A free win is a free win.