EPTIs that not what the Carrier does?
Just fix the Carrier Blizzard!
I'd be 100 bucks the Tempest doesn't have a ridiculously long build time like the Carrier... and that is probably why it works as a long range siege air unit.
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
Is that not what the Carrier does? Just fix the Carrier Blizzard! I'd be 100 bucks the Tempest doesn't have a ridiculously long build time like the Carrier... and that is probably why it works as a long range siege air unit. | ||
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tuho12345
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 12 2012 03:30 zazone wrote: You don't need a post to open your eyes. After I watched several games of competitive BW, even if I was a SC2 player and started with SC2, I already knew something was wrong and irreversible within the game design. Also this video shows it There's nothing wrong with criticising SC2, but that video is just.. weird. Half of it is complaining that things either look too shiny or too blocky, the other half has gems like "Blink Stalker requires no micro and is just a gimmick". Uh-huh. | ||
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BigBossX
United Kingdom357 Posts
On April 12 2012 03:30 zazone wrote: You don't need a post to open your eyes. After I watched several games of competitive BW, even if I was a SC2 player and started with SC2, I already knew something was wrong and irreversible within the game design. Also this video shows it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7k3ZM6bQx4 we have fooled ourselves into thinking starcraft2 is an amazing esport title but it's actually a mediocre PC RTS that nobody would play if it wasn't titled 'starcraft'. This is what I meant by having my eyes opened. Yes I realised long time ago something was off especially compared to BW but somehow seeing it written down and explained so simply made it so much more clearer and obvious | ||
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BrodiaQ
United States892 Posts
Still don't like the Nexus recall ability, seems too forgiving for protoss players but maybe it won't be as bad as I'm thinking. | ||
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K_Dilkington
Sweden449 Posts
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anApple
Singapore275 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
For example: make it do extra damage against light units, reduced against armored. Make the difference significant enough that the colossus becomes a more situational unit against heavy marine/hydralisk armies and protoss players are forced to focus fire light units with them, otherwise they are inefficient. I agree that the current design of "terrible terrible damage against EVERYTHING" is bad, but it doesn't mean the unit could be reworked into something more interesting. They did it with the siege tank too. | ||
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Attican
Denmark531 Posts
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BlueLanterna
291 Posts
On April 12 2012 03:37 K_Dilkington wrote: I like what I'm reading. As a protoss player I'm happy to see the replicant gone, it didn't make much sense and the tempest sound more interesting now. I'm just curious, what sounds more interesting about the tempest? Nothing has changed, it's still an A-move unit with a function that should have been filled by the carrier. | ||
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blamekilly
466 Posts
additional aoe splash damage is the last thing protoss needs. | ||
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Haffi
Korea (North)49 Posts
Mutas are being phased out, most high level zergs don't even use them anymore, Infestors are the way to go nowadays. Terran players have no problem dealing with mutas, especially on maps like Cloud Kingdom and Entombed where harassing the main is impossible due to it being tucked in neatly behind the natural and 3rd. | ||
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Treehead
999 Posts
It'll be interesting to see how they implement the "rocket launcher" so that "siege tank wars" isn't replaced by "rocket launcher wars". I'm disheartened, though, I have to admit. Zerg's new stuff looks really, really good - and I don't see stuff that protoss is getting that will even be useful against the current PvZ tactics. I certainly hope we're not still doing 2-base allins in 2 years. | ||
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
On April 12 2012 03:39 Attican wrote: Nydus worm can attack buildings? Hows that even gonna work? I think it's good thing. it can be used in guerrilla warfare or 2 pronged attack | ||
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
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Autotroph
United Kingdom940 Posts
On April 12 2012 03:18 Gingerninja wrote: Just saddens me that they seem to be adding in BW units, but are changing them just enough that they can pretend they aren't. They have too much pride to admit they were wrong. Look we get it... just add the Lurker back in place of swarm host, Goliath in place of warhound.. and we'll pretend that Blizzcon didn't happen. oh and leave the carrier, if you're going to change the tempest to do what the carrier does anyway... why bother? Yeah, no original ideas. It's a new game, no criticism for trying new things and the goal being to make it different to it's predecessor but yeah, these things are way too close to their BW counterparts. I empathise with the dev team cos being a relatively close-relative of BW SC2, for all it's important differences, still has the same pivot-point balance issues - zerg needs a siege unit, etc etc - but the goal of making a new and separate game blocks them from just putting a lurker in or whatever. People are saying they have just tweaked the BW units but I reckon it was a case of arriving at the same fundamental problem, coming up with a solution, and then realising they'd just thought up a lurker and had to swap it to have broodlings instead of spines (just one example). | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
if anything, this is a step in the right direction? | ||
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danakaz
Denmark84 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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WilDMousE
Chile1335 Posts
On April 12 2012 03:30 zazone wrote: You don't need a post to open your eyes. After I watched several games of competitive BW, even if I was a SC2 player and started with SC2, I already knew something was wrong and irreversible within the game design. Also this video shows it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7k3ZM6bQx4 that video only talks about aesthetics, plus it was made on a pre-beta release date... 0% balance issues presented on that video sir. Just to quote a part of the vid that gave me a good laugh: "teleportation is not player skill, it's a cheap unit ability" Most protoss pro players have shown us the contrary. | ||
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