EPTAs for Naniwa episode, I think it is pretty evident that it has to do more with Naniwa than him being a foreigner.
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
As for Naniwa episode, I think it is pretty evident that it has to do more with Naniwa than him being a foreigner. | ||
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RageBot
Israel1530 Posts
On April 11 2012 04:04 Arceus wrote: come on man It's not like they are invited over to SOTG to give some deeply thoughtful insight about the scene. They were grabbed in the middle of nowhere to give some one word answers. They would probably say whatever cool things popping up in their mind in those situations. And like someone said above, It's naturally exciting if foreigners manage to put up a decent fight. America really enjoyed Dirk Nowitzki dominating the court and winning a ring, didnt they? But hey, take it seriously if these stuffs ever make you bitter fans somehow better about the future of foreigners. Go ahead make another thread lulz I actually don't know if you realized that I was sarcastic, if you are sarcastic... i'm mindfucked by your post. | ||
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AKomrade
United States582 Posts
And in many respects, the foreigners they face are a bit like them (WC3 players, B/practice team/semi-pro BW players). Everyone benefits from a united front when the Proleague BW guys come knocking. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
"GSL, but somewhere on the other side of the globe" lends itself to the question why people not just hold the tournament in korea in the first place. I know I would scratch my head if I would fly to Hawaii and proceed to play against only people that live next door. | ||
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theBOOCH
United States832 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 11 2012 03:58 Vickhoff wrote: Well i trust Naniwa on this one as top foreigner living in Korea http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326888 A bit on what Naniwa thinks about this topic. But naniwas experience in korea isn't indicitive of every foreigners, firstly, Naniwa himself ever says that the people he's on a team with, startale, will not leak his replays. Leaking replays from your teammates is a cardinal sin in korea, i remember when ret went to korea, just because he was seen chatting to friends over b.net while watching a replay was enough to almost get him kicked out of the team. Koreans do not share their teammates replays, mabye if nestea hits naniwa on ladder and naniwa does an odd timing, then nestea will share it with his teammates, but if naniwa is in the startale house, then his inhouse practice partners won't share his builds. Secondly, naniwa and his attitude of "results/skill is all that matters" where he feels that manner or respect arn't that important (see his response to the korean response to his probe rush) clashes strongly with the koreans who often actively apologise in interviews if they feel they won doing an overpowwered build or boring/cheesey play because they feel bad. If you look back at when nony and idra were in korea, as far as i can tell they had the full support of their korean teammates (this is broodwar, and nony's team was apparently incredibly friendly, helpful and would not try to "spite" him by helping his opponents) Also look at the relationship between liquid and ogs, they support each other, avenge each other and give each other tips in gsl. (i think Mc wore a huk shirt in a game where he was playing the person who knocked huk out of gsl or something way back) this is not the attitude that naniwa describes at all. I think naniwa's case is more that his personality doesn't mesh with the koreans, and theirs don't mesh with him, so they don't get along. Hence he doesn't have the best experience working with them. Naniwa's experience is not evidence of some "korean vs the world" syndrome, if anything its "a small group of korean friends helping each other against someone they don't know"... | ||
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Waterflow
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 11 2012 04:22 RageBot wrote: I actually don't know if you realized that I was sarcastic, if you are sarcastic... i'm mindfucked by your post. I'm not sure who is being sarcastic and who isn't either, but tell me that boxer and iloveoov don't care about the esports scene as a whole ^^ their response to an event which a player placed personal gain above the good of esports as a whole. | ||
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
As a Korean, I can confirm this. Even Koreans are sick of Korean players winning everything. We always cheer for foreigners when they're playing, except Naniwa. | ||
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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DiuLaSing
Hong Kong225 Posts
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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chatuka
1351 Posts
On April 11 2012 07:39 Ksquared wrote: Nobody wants Sc2 to become a game where only Koreans play. who are you speaking for? I just want the best of the best to come out and show me higher levels of SC2..I am very frustrated that the Chinese and Japanese do not play with same level of Fervor and dedication as the Koreans do. I am also expecting some scandanavian to take this game seriously and kick all of the Korean player's tails. Because Scandanavia has a ridiculous talent pool to select from. That is, if E-sports was truly one of the major sports in the world. If players can make Millions of dollars playing an Online sport, you will see the Cream rise to the top in every country. That will start the slow transition to National Parity to SC2 or LoL But, slowly but surely, e-sports will become as big as Football. It is just a matter of time. | ||
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LuckyGnomTV
Russian Federation367 Posts
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JohnMatrix
France1359 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10347 Posts
If a foreigner never wins another major tourney, the foreign scene will probably die just like in Brood war. But Huk cracking the final eight every time will probably prolong things. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On April 11 2012 07:29 JiPrime wrote: Man, I knew of this for long time but I didn't say it here because it might have started a shitstorm. As a Korean, I can confirm this. Even Koreans are sick of Korean players winning everything. We always cheer for foreigners when they're playing, except Naniwa. Lol.Well, thats what Naniwa gets for being a jerk XD. But its good the truth comes out. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
i'm patiently waiting for the second coming of giyom. i also enjoy the korean domination, but that doesnt mean i want foreigners to do bad, its the opposite. | ||
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