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Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
April 07 2012 01:21 GMT
#1

there is not NEARLY as many people who are trying to become progamers in europe as korea, hence korea will always have more people and therefor more practicepartners no matter what which will in most cases lead to higher skill. the analyzing part is true indeed but how many team leaders in europe / america do you think have played starcraft or RTS on a high level? I can guarantee very very few or none. The koreans always stick together and will always work against the foreigners , surely this is a mistake in the foreigner community indeed ( we could do the same ) But right now the koreans are better obviously and there are alot more dedicated players in korea . This is how it works -> If im going to practice to play a korean there is a very high chance they will leak what im practising to that player ( why ? ) Because thats how the "korean pride" works. I am not korean, so therefor this is an issue i cant overcome without learning korean. obviously i can trust the startale players because we have a partnership with them, but other than that its every korean together against all foreigners. ( Nestea discussing strategys with 10 koreans before playing me for example. )
if you think this is fair conditions to judge someones skill. then i havent really got anything else to say. Maybe its my fault for not studying korean for 2 years before going here to try to find practice?.

morons, Sincerely - naniwa.

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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
April 07 2012 01:23 GMT
#2
Is this in response to something?
Never make a hydralisk.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 07 2012 01:24 GMT
#3
Interesting.
Isken
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)1131 Posts
April 07 2012 01:24 GMT
#4
I seem to have missed an episode there
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 01:24:57
April 07 2012 01:24 GMT
#5
Hmmmm...

Blogs?
twitch.tv/medrea
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
April 07 2012 01:24 GMT
#6
foreigner thread that was removed.
Progamer
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
April 07 2012 01:24 GMT
#7
Not sure how you can rail against Koreans' pride while defending foreigner pride.
We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
April 07 2012 01:25 GMT
#8
Make voidrays, they're good!
I think esports is pretty nice.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
April 07 2012 01:26 GMT
#9
Is there a solution?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
April 07 2012 01:26 GMT
#10
thats sad you really seem to be very desperate imo
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 07 2012 01:27 GMT
#11
or....you could broaden your play to incorporate things outside of your typical style. I've noticed the longer time there is before a match with you, the better ANY player (korean or not) does against you. You apparently aren't that difficult to prepare for. Sorry naniwa. Either your prep is sub par or you are too easy to practice against. both fixable things.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 07 2012 01:29 GMT
#12
You make a solid point, but I don't understand the thread title or the "morons".
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
April 07 2012 01:29 GMT
#13
Whaaa...?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
April 07 2012 01:30 GMT
#14
ok? that's really random, any reason you decided to get mad and vent
RainFall
Profile Joined July 2010
United States24 Posts
April 07 2012 01:31 GMT
#15
On April 07 2012 10:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
or....you could broaden your play to incorporate things outside of your typical style. I've noticed the longer time there is before a match with you, the better ANY player (korean or not) does against you. You apparently aren't that difficult to prepare for. Sorry naniwa. Either your prep is sub par or you are too easy to practice against. both fixable things.


Starcraft is more like Football than it is soccer. Most games are set plays from the start that are improvised based on results. We've seen how powerful spying on other teams has been in the NFL.
drsnuggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)362 Posts
April 07 2012 01:31 GMT
#16
I think its fair that Nestea is discussing how to beat you with your opponents. Nobody is stopping you from asking..lets say Huk or Stephano on how to beat Nesta (or anyone you're playing).
Saber~
Profile Joined April 2010
United States60 Posts
April 07 2012 01:31 GMT
#17
Naniwa Smash! I'm going to draw a picture of you, Naniwa! In the style of my previous works.
I draw progamers. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=140130
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
April 07 2012 01:31 GMT
#18
On April 07 2012 10:29 Gorlin wrote:
You make a solid point, but I don't understand the thread title or the "morons".

I think he's just mad at the moment. Other than the title and the morons, I think Naniwa makes an interesting point. I've certainly never heard of anything like this going on, but it has to be somewhat expected that people of the same nationalities are going to want to help each other out. To us it may seem like cheating, but to them they are just helping their friends and their countrymen.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 07 2012 01:32 GMT
#19
hmm...?

i dont know what to say...
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
April 07 2012 01:32 GMT
#20
Ok? but that was really random and just not out of no where.
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