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StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
April 12 2012 12:04 GMT
#221
On April 12 2012 19:53 Waterflow wrote:
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On April 12 2012 19:41 StoRm_res wrote:
Of course they want foreigners to compete better, they know most of the money in sc2 comes from foreign companies. To keep the game interesting for foreign spectators, we need successful foreign players. If not, the rest of the world will lose interest in sc2, which will lead to way less money in sc2


Im sure there are some korean pro's (although very few) that genuinely want's foreigners to do good but the majority i feel say so just to get more fans/fame/viewers etc.. Wich ofcourse leads to earning more money because of the newly attracted fans who will watch their stream.

Nothing wrong wanting money though. ^^ But ofcourse it can feel a little bit phony saying things you don't mean.

I don't necessary meant it as a bad thing. Everyone wants starcraft 2 to grow, and to do so we need the foreigners to catch up before it is too late.
Cloudsong
Profile Joined October 2010
Luxembourg69 Posts
April 12 2012 12:05 GMT
#222
On April 10 2012 08:30 BlackJack wrote:
It's like a reverse Linsanity

hahah
GG
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 12:14:13
April 12 2012 12:14 GMT
#223
Personally i would get sick and tired of swedes winning every single tournament out there if for example Sweden was as successfull as South-Korea is at SC2.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 23:26:44
April 12 2012 23:26 GMT
#224
On April 12 2012 12:22 jinorazi wrote:
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On April 12 2012 12:10 StarStruck wrote:
Everyone wants to hear a good story.

On April 12 2012 12:08 jinorazi wrote:
do soccer players or musicians play for money? or do they do it because they love it, and try to make a living off of it if possible.
other responsibilities and/or market availability will force their decision but their passion comes before their need for money.

so talks of "foreigners have no chance of winning so why would they continue" i dont think is a legitimate excuse, an excuse but not legitimate, enough to earn sympathy.

foreign teams NEED korean coach/players in their environment. look at all pro sports, such as korean football using dutch coaches and american speed skating using korean coaches. as a stepping stone for further improvement. (many teams are obviously doing this, not to win but to improve)


What they need is better discipline. -__-


or coach(one who can 'bitch slap' players that needs it, or with...love/care?), to put it simply.


I'm not coming back. Not going to happen.

I was talking about discipline as an innate quality opposed to the taught discipline.
Fall.182
Profile Joined September 2010
United States126 Posts
April 13 2012 02:31 GMT
#225
On April 11 2012 23:24 Waterflow wrote:
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On April 11 2012 22:04 mememolly wrote:
some of the new guys/girls if they put in work could threaten the korean domination, people like Scarlett illusion etc but the old guard, idra incontrol huk thorzain naniwa etc haven't got a chance imo otherwise they would have proven themselves by now


I guess you know everything about GSL since you've been there so many times and practiced there. Right? You clearly have no clue.

There's koreans practicing just as hard as these foreign players you mentioned who haven't been able to do well in Code-S eihter. It's not just something you show up to and win on your first try. Try to understand the extreme amount of talent that participates there and evaluate your opinions.


@mememolly plus illusion is korean
rstar
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada6 Posts
April 13 2012 15:31 GMT
#226
There is no doubt that North American and Europeans fans want to watch players from their own areas. With them struggling to to get to the top 16 of these major tournaments I think its inevitable that viewership will drop unless something changes.
blue cheese
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
April 13 2012 17:57 GMT
#227
On April 13 2012 08:26 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 12:22 jinorazi wrote:
On April 12 2012 12:10 StarStruck wrote:
Everyone wants to hear a good story.

On April 12 2012 12:08 jinorazi wrote:
do soccer players or musicians play for money? or do they do it because they love it, and try to make a living off of it if possible.
other responsibilities and/or market availability will force their decision but their passion comes before their need for money.

so talks of "foreigners have no chance of winning so why would they continue" i dont think is a legitimate excuse, an excuse but not legitimate, enough to earn sympathy.

foreign teams NEED korean coach/players in their environment. look at all pro sports, such as korean football using dutch coaches and american speed skating using korean coaches. as a stepping stone for further improvement. (many teams are obviously doing this, not to win but to improve)


What they need is better discipline. -__-


or coach(one who can 'bitch slap' players that needs it, or with...love/care?), to put it simply.


I'm not coming back. Not going to happen.

I was talking about discipline as an innate quality opposed to the taught discipline.


and how are you going to impose that when its a cultural thing? korea's recent half a century success is largely by the individual's focus on hardwork, its a cultural phenomenon, how are you going to install this mindset in a different society, or even to a single person?

you're saying foreigners lack discipline yet it can't be taught. with that said do we wait helplessly for newer generation of players that grows up with discipline? at any case, those with discipline will come up on top regardless of being taught or not. those take this game as their career and life will do better than those who take it as a hobby and fun.
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