On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote:
good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then.
good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then.
Let him win more then 1 single match in GSL first shall we.
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote: good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then. Let him win more then 1 single match in GSL first shall we. | ||
Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On April 11 2012 22:04 mememolly wrote: some of the new guys/girls if they put in work could threaten the korean domination, people like Scarlett illusion etc but the old guard, idra incontrol huk thorzain naniwa etc haven't got a chance imo otherwise they would have proven themselves by now I guess you know everything about GSL since you've been there so many times and practiced there. Right? You clearly have no clue. There's koreans practicing just as hard as these foreign players you mentioned who haven't been able to do well in Code-S eihter. It's not just something you show up to and win on your first try. Try to understand the extreme amount of talent that participates there and evaluate your opinions. | ||
Killcycle
United States170 Posts
On April 11 2012 12:16 freakhill wrote: Why? It's a bit annoying to be called a foreigner to a game produced in your country by your citizens. | ||
baubo
China3370 Posts
On April 12 2012 10:25 Killcycle wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2012 12:16 freakhill wrote: On April 11 2012 10:28 Killcycle wrote: I hate the term Foreigner. Why? It's a bit annoying to be called a foreigner to a game produced in your country by your citizens. It's just easier than to write non-Koreans. ![]() | ||
jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
other responsibilities and/or market availability will force their decision but their passion comes before their need for money. so talks of "foreigners have no chance of winning so why would they continue" i dont think is a legitimate excuse, an excuse but not legitimate enough to earn sympathy. foreign teams NEED korean coach/players in their environment. look at all pro sports, such as korean football using dutch coaches and american speed skating using korean coaches. as a stepping stone for further improvement. (many teams are obviously doing this, not to win but to improve) | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
On April 12 2012 12:08 jinorazi wrote: do soccer players or musicians play for money? or do they do it because they love it, and try to make a living off of it if possible. other responsibilities and/or market availability will force their decision but their passion comes before their need for money. so talks of "foreigners have no chance of winning so why would they continue" i dont think is a legitimate excuse, an excuse but not legitimate, enough to earn sympathy. foreign teams NEED korean coach/players in their environment. look at all pro sports, such as korean football using dutch coaches and american speed skating using korean coaches. as a stepping stone for further improvement. (many teams are obviously doing this, not to win but to improve) What they need is better discipline. -__- | ||
ppshchik
United States862 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On April 12 2012 12:10 StarStruck wrote: Everyone wants to hear a good story. Show nested quote + On April 12 2012 12:08 jinorazi wrote: do soccer players or musicians play for money? or do they do it because they love it, and try to make a living off of it if possible. other responsibilities and/or market availability will force their decision but their passion comes before their need for money. so talks of "foreigners have no chance of winning so why would they continue" i dont think is a legitimate excuse, an excuse but not legitimate, enough to earn sympathy. foreign teams NEED korean coach/players in their environment. look at all pro sports, such as korean football using dutch coaches and american speed skating using korean coaches. as a stepping stone for further improvement. (many teams are obviously doing this, not to win but to improve) What they need is better discipline. -__- or coach(one who can 'bitch slap' players that needs it, or with...love/care?), to put it simply. | ||
Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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boxturtle
United States224 Posts
On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote: good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then. I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong. | ||
aznball123
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CursivE
Australia317 Posts
On April 12 2012 12:35 boxturtle wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote: good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then. I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong. I think you may be overstating Nani's abilities just a tad. I think it will be a major accomplishment just to get out of that group. Saying MVP and Ryung should be in code B... I'm not sure I agree with you there. If MVP is healthy he is a monster. I think you're being harsh on Ryung, although TvP is his worst match up. I'm hoping that a foreigner steps up and really competes with the Koreans soon, but I'm not pinning my hopes on Naniwa. | ||
zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 12 2012 12:35 boxturtle wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote: good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then. I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong. Are you serious? Mvp got straight back into Code S this season and beat some pretty good players to do so. | ||
Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On April 12 2012 15:13 zefreak wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2012 12:35 boxturtle wrote: On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote: good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then. I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong. Are you serious? Mvp got straight back into Code S this season and beat some pretty good players to do so. 2-1 Sniper... some pretty good players? | ||
boxturtle
United States224 Posts
On April 12 2012 15:17 Inflicted_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2012 15:13 zefreak wrote: On April 12 2012 12:35 boxturtle wrote: On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote: good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then. I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong. Are you serious? Mvp got straight back into Code S this season and beat some pretty good players to do so. 2-1 Sniper... some pretty good players? This and IdrA recently making him look like a noob. Also, those games v gumiho last season showed exactly how far he's fallen. His control is nothing impressive due to his wrist problems, and losing to a bunch of landed vikings 3 games in 1 day shows his strategic skill has fallen off greatly. | ||
Meridian.
United States7 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On April 12 2012 15:33 boxturtle wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2012 15:17 Inflicted_ wrote: On April 12 2012 15:13 zefreak wrote: On April 12 2012 12:35 boxturtle wrote: On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote: good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then. I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong. Are you serious? Mvp got straight back into Code S this season and beat some pretty good players to do so. 2-1 Sniper... some pretty good players? This and IdrA recently making him look like a noob. Also, those games v gumiho last season showed exactly how far he's fallen. His control is nothing impressive due to his wrist problems, and losing to a bunch of landed vikings 3 games in 1 day shows his strategic skill has fallen off greatly. Yeah, it pains me to see him play badly because of the injury. Sigh, I wish he could get a surgery like Flash did but that would cost a fortune... Or maybe he needs to use his "GSL Saving" to pay for that. On the other hand, he might not want to undergoes a surgery because he would have an excuse for not going to a military (well at least in Thailand if you are injured like that you can avoid conscription). | ||
Leimus
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It's also a direct link to the financial success. The more global interest there is, the better the sports fare. It'd be totally weird if the korean pro gamers didn't wish for foreigners to do well. It's also totally reasonable that they still strive for winning. | ||
Big-t
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