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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
April 12 2012 06:55 GMT
#201
LOL

I really don't see naniwa getting out of the group.

we'll see
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
April 12 2012 06:59 GMT
#202
On April 10 2012 08:28 Timurid wrote:
Tired of facing the same people lol.


I never actually thought about this o.o If you're in GSL Code S, you only play the usual 31 people over and over. Some variation but most of them are the same and you probably meet them on ladder as well (maybe you don't know it's them, but on one of their many "smurf" accounts lol). Even with people dropping out of Code S, it's still very slow finding new people to play against.
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icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
April 12 2012 07:19 GMT
#203
On April 10 2012 09:27 AgentChaos wrote:
THEY LIED!!



We're the laughing stock of South Korea... (we = rest of the world)
He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past. BUFFER INTO GG
etrensce
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia337 Posts
April 12 2012 07:35 GMT
#204
On April 12 2012 12:35 boxturtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote:
good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then.


I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong.

I think naniwa should be in code b as well by that standard.
If life gives you lemons, burn lifes house down
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
April 12 2012 07:35 GMT
#205
On April 12 2012 10:25 Killcycle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 12:16 freakhill wrote:
On April 11 2012 10:28 Killcycle wrote:
I hate the term Foreigner.


Why?


It's a bit annoying to be called a foreigner to a game produced in your country by your citizens.


It is generally accepted that Korea is the land of Starcraft. So we as a community who doesnt life in the land of Bw and Esports started to call ourself foreigners because Starcraft has always been a Korea vs the world thing.
Most people here have been long time Broodwar fans before they got interrested (or not) in SCII.
We closely watched Idra being a foreigner in korea trying to be succesfull and we always felt like foreigners to country that broadcasts videogqmes on TV.
If you are annoyed by the fact that this comunity has accepted that Korea is infact the land of Starcraft than TL might not be the rightnplace for you.
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mage36
Profile Joined May 2011
415 Posts
April 12 2012 07:39 GMT
#206
yea... doubt players were thinking as deep as sponsorships and stuff when being interviewed. they were just probably being nice.
CarelessPride
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
April 12 2012 07:41 GMT
#207
LOL so those comments represent the whole korean population eh?
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
April 12 2012 07:51 GMT
#208
They might be getting worried about tournaments such as IPL being 92% Koreans since the groups, they might be the better players but i doubt that a foreign audience as big as the ones we have now, even more... an audience that we "dream" to achieve in 2-3 years, would really go there if every tournaments get to be Korean only, simply cuz its kinda hard to "relate" to them due to the difference in culture/language to which you add the fact that many of them are kinda socially awkward/childish ( literally... Leenok is around 17 and MKP 18 ) which really "shows" when they are on a stage in front of 5k people.
You really need those Stephano, Incontrol, Idra. Goody, Gruby... etc that are able to actually give 10 minute interviews in which they talk fluently and about diverse subjects and to climb on the stage and raise a trophy without starting to cry and dance. The koreans are dumb, they realize that, they realize that the foreign audience are cheering for the foreigners... and if you got no foreigner left you go back to the broodwar stage where you had Kespa... ether you work in one of there team 14 hours a day or go play Mobas... Im not sure if anyone wants that, but it seems like its "heading" that way.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 12 2012 08:04 GMT
#209
Yeah they are just beaing nice and polite..nothing new.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1685 Posts
April 12 2012 08:23 GMT
#210
On April 12 2012 16:35 etrensce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 12:35 boxturtle wrote:
On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote:
good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then.


I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong.

I think naniwa should be in code b as well by that standard.

Yeah... it baffles me that people are still saying "[foreigner name] for code S" and all that stuff. It's not going to happen, there is no way in hell that any of them could conceivably win. It isn't a realistic goal atm.
EleGant[AoV]
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 12 2012 08:26 GMT
#211
its a valid fear... people like seeing foreigners win
tymt
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden293 Posts
April 12 2012 08:26 GMT
#212
On April 12 2012 17:23 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 16:35 etrensce wrote:
On April 12 2012 12:35 boxturtle wrote:
On April 11 2012 21:40 tymt wrote:
good thing naniwa will win code s season 2 then.


I can see him getting out of his group ez-pz. I mean look at it, it's 2 people who should be in code B and Puzzle. Naniwa should get out easily. I like both Ryung and MVP, but they're not anywhere near Naniwa's level at the moment, I don't see MVP even staying in code A next season. However, the rest of the tournament is pretty difficult. Oz, Parting, Hero, Genius all have pretty sick PvPs any of them can end his run as soon as the first thing goes wrong.

I think naniwa should be in code b as well by that standard.

Yeah... it baffles me that people are still saying "[foreigner name] for code S" and all that stuff. It's not going to happen, there is no way in hell that any of them could conceivably win. It isn't a realistic goal atm.

Faith is stronger than reason
SoundProof
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden99 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 10:31:49
April 12 2012 08:59 GMT
#213
Well the fact of the matter is that it's true that the scene needs more foreign players going far in tourneys. I've seen some of my friends that I introduced to SC2 slowly fade away from the esports. Even though great play is awesome, people also need something to relate to, just imagine how much harder it is to introduce SC2 than when I could say there's a "insert nationality" player doing really well and you should cheer for him.
"Jag är för stark helt enkelt"
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
April 12 2012 09:01 GMT
#214
On April 10 2012 08:41 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:36 `Zapdos wrote:
On April 10 2012 08:33 Leftwing wrote:
Wouldn't it be ironic if Koreans dominate the scene for the next 2-3 years, and then all of a sudden the first bonjwa of SC2 happens to be a foreigner? Calling it now.


The way the game is set up there probably won't ever be an sc2 bonjwa and goddamnit i wish people would stop using the term
Oh come on, isn't it a little early in the game's life to be predicting that there won't ever be one? How long was it until one came around in BW - 3 years? We're seeing way better marine micro, splitting, and multitasking than we did 6-12 months ago. I would agree with you if the metagame was stagnant but I think there's at least a chance. There aren't any S class players (in their primes) playing SC2 anyways so there is a lot of talent potential if a switch did occur, not saying that it will or ever. bonjwa bonjwa

I think the idea of a foreign bonjwa is highly appealing though, and equally unlikely.

not sure if we're watching the same games really
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 12 2012 10:19 GMT
#215
On April 12 2012 18:01 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:41 calgar wrote:
On April 10 2012 08:36 `Zapdos wrote:
On April 10 2012 08:33 Leftwing wrote:
Wouldn't it be ironic if Koreans dominate the scene for the next 2-3 years, and then all of a sudden the first bonjwa of SC2 happens to be a foreigner? Calling it now.


The way the game is set up there probably won't ever be an sc2 bonjwa and goddamnit i wish people would stop using the term
Oh come on, isn't it a little early in the game's life to be predicting that there won't ever be one? How long was it until one came around in BW - 3 years? We're seeing way better marine micro, splitting, and multitasking than we did 6-12 months ago. I would agree with you if the metagame was stagnant but I think there's at least a chance. There aren't any S class players (in their primes) playing SC2 anyways so there is a lot of talent potential if a switch did occur, not saying that it will or ever. bonjwa bonjwa

I think the idea of a foreign bonjwa is highly appealing though, and equally unlikely.

not sure if we're watching the same games really


yeah. Also, when BW started, people didn't know how to play RTS properly, people would spend tons of actions microing to save a few units while they could have build many more units if they had macro well instead.

It took a little long in BW, because people had to learn how to play and RTS, and also because maps did not allow for huge macro games with action everywhere. Hell, for the first 5 years BW maps didn't even have a proper natural !

When SC2 was released, it was played on maps that had those clearly defined natural and thirds, and at top level it was played by former BW / WC3 pros. There should not be a single delay.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 12 2012 10:29 GMT
#216
On April 12 2012 18:01 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:41 calgar wrote:
On April 10 2012 08:36 `Zapdos wrote:
On April 10 2012 08:33 Leftwing wrote:
Wouldn't it be ironic if Koreans dominate the scene for the next 2-3 years, and then all of a sudden the first bonjwa of SC2 happens to be a foreigner? Calling it now.


The way the game is set up there probably won't ever be an sc2 bonjwa and goddamnit i wish people would stop using the term
Oh come on, isn't it a little early in the game's life to be predicting that there won't ever be one? How long was it until one came around in BW - 3 years? We're seeing way better marine micro, splitting, and multitasking than we did 6-12 months ago. I would agree with you if the metagame was stagnant but I think there's at least a chance. There aren't any S class players (in their primes) playing SC2 anyways so there is a lot of talent potential if a switch did occur, not saying that it will or ever. bonjwa bonjwa

I think the idea of a foreign bonjwa is highly appealing though, and equally unlikely.

not sure if we're watching the same games really

Are you you honestly saying that didn't improve in a year?
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
April 12 2012 10:41 GMT
#217
Of course they want foreigners to compete better, they know most of the money in sc2 comes from foreign companies. To keep the game interesting for foreign spectators, we need successful foreign players. If not, the rest of the world will lose interest in sc2, which will lead to way less money in sc2
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
April 12 2012 10:53 GMT
#218
On April 12 2012 19:41 StoRm_res wrote:
Of course they want foreigners to compete better, they know most of the money in sc2 comes from foreign companies. To keep the game interesting for foreign spectators, we need successful foreign players. If not, the rest of the world will lose interest in sc2, which will lead to way less money in sc2


Im sure there are some korean pro's (although very few) that genuinely want's foreigners to do good but the majority i feel say so just to get more fans/fame/viewers etc.. Wich ofcourse leads to earning more money because of the newly attracted fans who will watch their stream.

Nothing wrong wanting money though. ^^ But ofcourse it can feel a little bit phony saying things you don't mean.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
April 12 2012 11:06 GMT
#219
On April 10 2012 09:26 jinorazi wrote:
i'm sure everyone wants to move away from the bw stigma (white people suck)
except whitera, he beat boxer *nod*


Note that's when boxer was barely a B team level pro though... maybe not even that.
FoTG fighting!
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
April 12 2012 11:34 GMT
#220
On April 12 2012 15:55 mongmong wrote:
LOL

I really don't see naniwa getting out of the group.

we'll see


I don't know if that really belongs in this thread.
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