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Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
April 10 2012 16:52 GMT
#61
On April 10 2012 08:41 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:36 `Zapdos wrote:
On April 10 2012 08:33 Leftwing wrote:
Wouldn't it be ironic if Koreans dominate the scene for the next 2-3 years, and then all of a sudden the first bonjwa of SC2 happens to be a foreigner? Calling it now.


The way the game is set up there probably won't ever be an sc2 bonjwa and goddamnit i wish people would stop using the term
Oh come on, isn't it a little early in the game's life to be predicting that there won't ever be one? How long was it until one came around in BW - 3 years? We're seeing way better marine micro, splitting, and multitasking than we did 6-12 months ago. I would agree with you if the metagame was stagnant but I think there's at least a chance. There aren't any S class players (in their primes) playing SC2 anyways so there is a lot of talent potential if a switch did occur, not saying that it will or ever. bonjwa bonjwa

I think the idea of a foreign bonjwa is highly appealing though, and equally unlikely.



3 Years ? Ever heard of boxer ? 2000 - 2001
Also i higly doubt that we will ever see a player dominate that much in SC2. And i wish people would stop throwing that word around like that.
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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 16:55:22
April 10 2012 16:53 GMT
#62
On April 10 2012 10:56 Bigtony wrote:
If foreigners stay bad forever, the scene will die. There will be no $40,000 IPL4 for someone to win. There will be no 20k MLG, etc. Foreigners have to be good to keep interest alive. Although the foreign scene seems perfectly capable of killing itself with lack of support.

This. Gotta keep foreign hopes alive else cash from foreign tounaments will dry up hurting Koreans bottom line.

If SC2 ever gets big in Korea like BW I don't think they'd give a crap about foreigner scene. And there definity won't be free GSL slots to appeal to western PPV.
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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 10 2012 16:53 GMT
#63
Polt has benefited a lot from his rivalry with Stephano. He won the tournament with the highest prize money in SC2 before and nobody cared. Now he gets recognized much more.
Taiyoken
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada130 Posts
April 10 2012 16:54 GMT
#64
On April 11 2012 01:53 SinCitta wrote:
Polt has benefited a lot from his rivalry with Stephano. He won the tournament with the highest prize money in SC2 before and nobody cared. Now he gets recognized much more.


Yes, nobody cared...
FuRRyChoBo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States218 Posts
April 10 2012 16:59 GMT
#65
I'm not sure it's fair to say nobody cared, but with the amount of Korean Terrans on the scene, it's easy to overlook him. There's no doubt Stephano's popularity shined a light on him.
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
April 10 2012 17:08 GMT
#66
On April 10 2012 09:15 Mohdoo wrote:
Too bad their players don't. Naniwa and others have commented on how Koreans all band together and share replays to beat foreigners like Naniwa and other top players who are actually on their level. But with all of their working together, they are able to always beat foreigners just due to the fact that their replays are shared by practice partners they trusted.

U trust Naniwa and his crying? wow
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
April 10 2012 17:11 GMT
#67
I want foreigners to win too, however not by beating other foreigners (that doesnt create a real story), but by beating top koreans.

Imagine these forums if a foreigner would've won this epically stacked IPL4, TL would EXPLODE
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Iksf
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom444 Posts
April 10 2012 17:14 GMT
#68
On April 11 2012 01:54 Taiyoken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:53 SinCitta wrote:
Polt has benefited a lot from his rivalry with Stephano. He won the tournament with the highest prize money in SC2 before and nobody cared. Now he gets recognized much more.


Yes, nobody cared...


He is kinda right, if you ask a random SC2 player to list all the previous winners of GSL, if theyd forget one it would have been Polt.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 10 2012 17:15 GMT
#69
On April 11 2012 02:14 Iksf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 01:54 Taiyoken wrote:
On April 11 2012 01:53 SinCitta wrote:
Polt has benefited a lot from his rivalry with Stephano. He won the tournament with the highest prize money in SC2 before and nobody cared. Now he gets recognized much more.


Yes, nobody cared...


He is kinda right, if you ask a random SC2 player to list all the previous winners of GSL, if theyd forget one it would have been Polt.

That's mostly due to the Super Tournament technically not being Code S.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
April 10 2012 17:16 GMT
#70
I think they're just being polite. They want the best competition and they want to CRUSH that competition. Just my own thoughts on it though.
In Inca we trust
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
April 10 2012 17:16 GMT
#71
On April 10 2012 08:36 `Zapdos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:33 Leftwing wrote:
Wouldn't it be ironic if Koreans dominate the scene for the next 2-3 years, and then all of a sudden the first bonjwa of SC2 happens to be a foreigner? Calling it now.


The way the game is set up there probably won't ever be an sc2 bonjwa and goddamnit i wish people would stop using the term


And why do think you should have a say in what people say and don't. Do you own the rights to the term?
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
April 10 2012 17:17 GMT
#72
On April 10 2012 08:32 GoSuChicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:29 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Because they are the underdogs and it creates good storylines? Not that interesting or surprising really.

I think its interesting, because there was some talk about koreans having their pride and therefore are trying to win everything.
Some people said that koreans would work together against foreigners and stuff like that...


It was from Naniwa who said that.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 17:37:53
April 10 2012 17:24 GMT
#73
yet another bitter thread made out of inferiority complex. I doubt the Koreans gave a fuck about the so called 'interest'
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
April 10 2012 17:30 GMT
#74
It's called the underdog effect, its just more interesting to root for the underdog.
biamila
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada335 Posts
April 10 2012 17:31 GMT
#75
On April 11 2012 02:24 Arceus wrote:
yet another bitter thread made out inferiority complex. I doubt the Koreans gave a fuck about the so called 'interest'


When it nets them hundreds of thousands of dollars in tournament prize money, they probably give a lot of fucks.
onlimono
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)14 Posts
April 10 2012 17:34 GMT
#76
i'm a korean who wants foreigners to win since it's more funnier. as a fan, i hope SC2 scene is getting bigger and more interesting with the competition of progamer in all over the world. most of koreans would agree with me and most of us want that foreign progamers are getting better.
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
April 10 2012 17:39 GMT
#77
On April 11 2012 02:17 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:32 GoSuChicken wrote:
On April 10 2012 08:29 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Because they are the underdogs and it creates good storylines? Not that interesting or surprising really.

I think its interesting, because there was some talk about koreans having their pride and therefore are trying to win everything.
Some people said that koreans would work together against foreigners and stuff like that...


It was from Naniwa who said that.


OK, but it would be very interesting to have a Korean pro come in and confirm/deny that. But it won't happen, they are too mannered.

Right now I think the short-term solution is just to just continue doing what we're already doing...have the regional-based qualifiers, then that'll guarantee foreigner faces during the televised games.

They can also have two different streams...Tastetosis casting the foreigner stream, and Wolf/Khaldor casting the korean stream. Then once all the eliminations are done, you'll have 1 foreigner vs 1 Korean and I think this neatly solves a lot of issues.
Canada
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 17:42:26
April 10 2012 17:40 GMT
#78
the koreans need to adopt a foreigner and train him as one of their own, i dont see any other way in which a foreigner is gonna be able to compete with top level koreans.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
April 10 2012 17:41 GMT
#79
In an interview after commentating WCG Korea, (T)TheMarine [first great Terran] stated that he was shocked that two of the three Korean players got knocked out early, and that he hopes very much that Starcraft 2 can be a global esport, as Starcraft was essentially Korea-only.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 17:42:26
April 10 2012 17:41 GMT
#80
On April 10 2012 08:26 GoSuChicken wrote:
Source: http://www.twitch.tv/iplliveu/b/314371855 Starting @ ~38 min both aLive and Ganzi state that they want Stephano to win/do well because hes a foreigner and there are so many koreans in foreign tourneys, earlier in this vod MMA stated the same starting @~21 min.
GhostKing (Byun) as well, you can add him to the OP.

Koreans - players and fans - have always shown a lot of support for foreigners, they are excited when foreigners can put up a fight. I think that's only natural.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
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