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jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
April 10 2012 01:57 GMT
#41
On April 10 2012 08:30 BlackJack wrote:
It's like a reverse Linsanity


looooooooooolll .. thats actually really funny XD
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 10 2012 02:00 GMT
#42
I'll just leave this guy here....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Patry
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
April 10 2012 02:07 GMT
#43
On April 10 2012 11:00 shaftofpleasure wrote:
I'll just leave this guy here....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Patry


It would be sick to see him return for SC2 :D
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Mirosuu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
England283 Posts
April 10 2012 02:12 GMT
#44
On April 10 2012 09:56 SaiStorm wrote:
Haha interesting how aLive said that he had no chance to win.. and look what happened!

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:26 GoSuChicken wrote:
earlier in this vod MMA stated the same starting @~21 min.

MMA vs Stephano Game 2.... yea...



MMA does that to top Korean Zergs, so don't take that game as indicative of the skill gap between Korea and Foreigners.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
April 10 2012 02:13 GMT
#45
I'm not a racist, I wanna see the best players play and win regardless of where they are from.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
April 10 2012 02:26 GMT
#46
Honestly they just feel sorry for them . Foreigners had such high hopes, but they put in very little practice compared to their korean counterparts.....
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
April 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#47
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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 02:44:04
April 10 2012 02:42 GMT
#48
I highly doubt they want a foreigner to win in order to boost sc2 popularity and in turn increase cash flow into their pockets...

They probably respect Stephano a lot for being one of the only foreigners who can really hang with the Koreans. Not saying hes as good as the Code S Titans but based on skill and talent alone he would easily find a home on any Korean team. People like to root for underdogs, Stephano is an underdog just by being a foreigner even though he is leagues above many other foreigners. I think they were just being human and Stephano seems like a likable person, they are probably friends of some sort.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 10 2012 02:44 GMT
#49
Foreigner winning = more sponsors
Since the Koreans are mainly sponsored by international companies, they would want the scene to be exposed to retain those attention. Once Koreans would monopolize SC2, they would have no sponsors left as their domestic market are not exactly interested.
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Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
April 10 2012 02:56 GMT
#50
If asked directly: "Do you want X to do well?"

Nobody's going to say: "No"
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
momonami5
Profile Joined July 2011
United States109 Posts
April 10 2012 16:10 GMT
#51
On April 10 2012 11:56 Chunhyang wrote:
If asked directly: "Do you want X to do well?"

Nobody's going to say: "No"


this people are acting like the media in this thread blowing something up for no reason it's just common 101 to wish your oppenents to do well. In any competition why would you tell a interviewer " hope they do bad so I can win easy or they are playing terrible"
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 10 2012 16:13 GMT
#52
Moved to Starcraft 2 forum.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
April 10 2012 16:16 GMT
#53
Nobody wants for their opponents to play bad, because if they do and you win, you'll have to keep listening to everyone saying "If he played his A game he would have kicked your ass" etc.
Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
April 10 2012 16:20 GMT
#54
Why are ppl wanting to see foreigners win if the can compete on a fairly high level they have to lose period. In terms of identification: Who cares about some white guy if his opponente is a korean progamer? I dont see why ppl can't identifie with lets say MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, etc. even if you take a kid like MKP if you see him split marines that often you have to like his playstyle and all this stuff... i cant see that there are so much foreigners with "more" personality the only thing might be that they just dont speak english... but as it comes to interviews the most are rather dumb in tournaments i think this cant be an argument.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
April 10 2012 16:32 GMT
#55
Rather then saying that the koreans are just being polite, I feel that koreans are alot more aware of how much the "story" behind tournaments matters. In korea the esports industry has grown up over many years, and almost all of the players are very aware of how fragile an arrangement it is. Look at the reaction to naniwas probe rush, or to saviour match fixing, in korea the players are very beholden to the fans, and focus on delivering good and entertianing games as well as winning, and anything they see as "bad" for esports they try and avoid. I remember a few years ago the (i believe) skt1 coach said something along the lines of it would be "the best for starcraft" if skt1 won the proleague tournament, and rather then just ignoreing/laughing at him as the foreigner community probably would if nazgul said that about liquid in some team league, the many korean players and netizens agreed with him.

I think the koreans are alot more aware of how important it is to their livelihood that the fans have a good experience watching, and while they obviously will always play to the best of their ability, they often wish for what will benefit the scene as a whole, rather then just themselves, and if foreigners winning events makes starcraft more viewable (and i heard alot of people say they were done watching ipl when stephano got kicked out) then the koreans wouldn't be sad if stephano won as opposed to a korean (other then the korean who lost obv )

As an aside, there have been many interviews in which koreans have said they wanted to play an interesting game for their fans, or apologised for using uninventive builds even when they win. Such as boxer creating brand new builds for every game in broodwar despite some strats being suboptimal, or other cases (which escape me right now.)

This is just my opinion but i think this attitude is true, at least in alot of the older broodwar players who experienced what esports was like before it had the foundation it does now, like boxer who spent the first few years of his career in a flat living of hardly any money.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 16:35:01
April 10 2012 16:34 GMT
#56
On April 11 2012 01:10 momonami5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 11:56 Chunhyang wrote:
If asked directly: "Do you want X to do well?"

Nobody's going to say: "No"


this people are acting like the media in this thread blowing something up for no reason it's just common 101 to wish your oppenents to do well. In any competition why would you tell a interviewer " hope they do bad so I can win easy or they are playing terrible"


but there is a difference between saying "do you want stephano to do well," and "who do you want to win the tournament." I don't think anyone will get angry at mkp for saying "i hope i do well" when asked what he hopes will happen at ipl. Its the fact that they picked stephano without him being suggested (as far as i can tell) that is the reason this thread even exists.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 10 2012 16:34 GMT
#57
Maybe they're just being merciful
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 10 2012 16:38 GMT
#58
On April 10 2012 08:29 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Because they are the underdogs and it creates good storylines? Not that interesting or surprising really.

Probably this, same reason everyone fell for Squirtle this weekend.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
April 10 2012 16:47 GMT
#59
I'm tired of seeing so many threads about koreans/foreigners. As a fan of high level play, I wanna see the best players face each other and whether it's koreans or foreigners.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Legion710
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada423 Posts
April 10 2012 16:50 GMT
#60
Scarlett for first bonjwa
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