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This does really sound good! I guess I will watch the NASL then again. Good job, guys, I hope you can live up to the expectations!!
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I love the 'feeling' when I watch BitterdaM cast, it feels a bit like 'home' usually.
So I'm definitely looking forward to this! Major improvement getting well-known casters liked by the community.
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On March 30 2012 04:07 Kable wrote:
I love the 'feeling' when I watch BitterdaM cast, it feels a bit like 'home' usually.
So I'm definitely looking forward to this! Major improvement getting well-known casters liked by the community.
Oh man, you've nailed the exact feeling i get when i watch those guys. It feels like i'm hanging out watching the game with my buddies (buddies that know a lot more about the game then i do, mind you ;D) instead of watching an actual cast.
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YEAH! bitterdam ftw! favorite casting combo!
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There were many times i tuned in just to see Rotterdam cast something i normally would have passed on due to the excess of content these days. Mr Bitter at first didnt really appeal to me, but after awhile he just kinda didnt go away and he grew on me a bit. I think he really loves esports and cares about doing a decent job. So im glad for both of them to be moving up.
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On March 30 2012 08:41 captainshards wrote:
There were many times i tuned in just to see Rotterdam cast something i normally would have passed on due to the excess of content these days. Mr Bitter at first didnt really appeal to me, but after awhile he just kinda didnt go away and he grew on me a bit. I think he really loves esports and cares about doing a decent job. So im glad for both of them to be moving up.
lol...
Not sure if compliment...
<3 Thanks for the love. 
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rotterdam is the only caster i actually like more than tasteless and artosis. he's insightful but more importantly..he's really funny :D
when you add mr bitter with him or grubby...i just expect sitting there to be on laughs/smiles
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BitterdaMs arrival to NASL is enough to get me watching again, I'm pretty excited not gonna lie =)
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On March 29 2012 21:26 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 21:17 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 20:55 Waterflow wrote:On March 29 2012 18:00 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly. Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances. That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves. Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him. As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good." If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist. Have a little faith  You can't compare athletes to commentators. I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few. For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about) And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good." This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.). With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation.
Not really. The two things you are putting out there is things that apply to everything in life, literally everything. Things and people need to grow, and there needs to be failure, to be success. It's pretty simple and how life works. However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense. Sure you said you're doing it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is a sensible ground for a discussion.
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Love Rotterdam. He's so good looking and blonde so you're expecting him to be dumb as rocks till he starts spitting knowledge. I like how he tells one story about whatever player he is casting (the epic naama stories come to mind), showing their personality as well as game talent.
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BitterdaM will make this excellent as they do with everything else they participate in. Theyre the top tier casters with artosis, apollo and JP.
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On March 30 2012 16:29 Bumblebee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 21:26 Waterflow wrote:On March 29 2012 21:17 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 20:55 Waterflow wrote:On March 29 2012 18:00 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly. Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances. That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves. Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him. As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good." If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist. Have a little faith You can't compare athletes to commentators. I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few. For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about) And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good." This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.). With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation. Not really. The two things you are putting out there is things that apply to everything in life, literally everything. Things and people need to grow, and there needs to be failure, to be success. It's pretty simple and how life works. However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense. Sure you said you're doing it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is a sensible ground for a discussion.
"However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense."
Explain to me then why it can't be compared at all and doesn't make sense. Why can't it be compared?
Example: "An unknown male is striving to become a decently well known caster that works for a big tournament organisation. He starts streaming. People start to like him and/or his casting. He get's more and more viewers. He get's featured on teamliquid. He get's even more and more viewers. Suddenly he get's offers to do gigs for some minor cups. He get's even more recognition. Some time passes. Now a big tournament organisation decides it's time to recruit this rising star in the casting scene. He get's the job and his goals have been achieved!
Take that example and imagine it's a SC2 player instead who want's to join a big team. Why can't it be compared and why doesn't it make sense?
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In my opinion FrodaN is a caster with potential. He cast some of our dailies last year and did a great job
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On March 30 2012 20:57 Robinsa wrote:
BitterdaM will make this excellent as they do with everything else they participate in. Theyre the top tier casters with artosis, apollo and JP.
I love JP, but I would not consider him a top tier caster 
Tastosis/Apollo/Day9/BitterdaM are the top tier IMO :D
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I really like the casts of Rotterdam and MrBitter :D Hopefully Bitterdam improve more and more in their caster carreer that they get additional fans. Haven't heard anything about FrodaN yet, but i'll give him a chance.
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On March 28 2012 10:20 Pocky52 wrote:
Awesome! NASL looking to turn out really well this season! Any news as to when it is?
Congrats to the new casters as well!!!
According to NASL Youtube trailers the new season will commence April 11th. Roughly one year after NASL debuted.
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On March 30 2012 16:40 TRaFFiC wrote:
Love Rotterdam. He's so good looking and blonde so you're expecting him to be dumb as rocks till he starts spitting knowledge. I like how he tells one story about whatever player he is casting (the epic naama stories come to mind), showing their personality as well as game talent.
I feel like sometimes the NASL storytelling gets in the way of their casts. Lets hope they step their game up in season 3.
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Love Frodan and MrBitter.
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On March 30 2012 22:16 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 16:29 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 21:26 Waterflow wrote:On March 29 2012 21:17 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 20:55 Waterflow wrote:On March 29 2012 18:00 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly. Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances. That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves. Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him. As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good." If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist. Have a little faith You can't compare athletes to commentators. I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few. For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about) And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good." This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.). With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation. Not really. The two things you are putting out there is things that apply to everything in life, literally everything. Things and people need to grow, and there needs to be failure, to be success. It's pretty simple and how life works. However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense. Sure you said you're doing it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is a sensible ground for a discussion. "However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense." Explain to me then why it can't be compared at all and doesn't make sense. Why can't it be compared? Example: "An unknown male is striving to become a decently well known caster that works for a big tournament organisation. He starts streaming. People start to like him and/or his casting. He get's more and more viewers. He get's featured on teamliquid. He get's even more and more viewers. Suddenly he get's offers to do gigs for some minor cups. He get's even more recognition. Some time passes. Now a big tournament organisation decides it's time to recruit this rising star in the casting scene. He get's the job and his goals have been achieved! Take that example and imagine it's a SC2 player instead who want's to join a big team. Why can't it be compared and why doesn't it make sense?
Because the whole risk/reward aspect is not anything close to the same.
With the way you're arguing, I could draw an aspect to getting a girlfriend with a potential of me loving her and she's getting hot - could be, but could also not be. Yes, it is the "same situation" and the "same thing you do", but it's not to be compared because it has nothing to do with each other and the risk vs. reward in hiring talented players vs. unknown casters/ugly girlfriends is just not the same.
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On March 31 2012 03:35 Bumblebee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 22:16 Waterflow wrote:On March 30 2012 16:29 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 21:26 Waterflow wrote:On March 29 2012 21:17 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 20:55 Waterflow wrote:On March 29 2012 18:00 Bumblebee wrote:On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly. Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances. That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves. Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him. As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good." If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist. Have a little faith You can't compare athletes to commentators. I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few. For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about) And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good." This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.). With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation. Not really. The two things you are putting out there is things that apply to everything in life, literally everything. Things and people need to grow, and there needs to be failure, to be success. It's pretty simple and how life works. However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense. Sure you said you're doing it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is a sensible ground for a discussion. "However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense." Explain to me then why it can't be compared at all and doesn't make sense. Why can't it be compared? Example: "An unknown male is striving to become a decently well known caster that works for a big tournament organisation. He starts streaming. People start to like him and/or his casting. He get's more and more viewers. He get's featured on teamliquid. He get's even more and more viewers. Suddenly he get's offers to do gigs for some minor cups. He get's even more recognition. Some time passes. Now a big tournament organisation decides it's time to recruit this rising star in the casting scene. He get's the job and his goals have been achieved! Take that example and imagine it's a SC2 player instead who want's to join a big team. Why can't it be compared and why doesn't it make sense? Because the whole risk/reward aspect is not anything close to the same. With the way you're arguing, I could draw an aspect to getting a girlfriend with a potential of me loving her and she's getting hot - could be, but could also not be. Yes, it is the "same situation" and the "same thing you do", but it's not to be compared because it has nothing to do with each other and the risk vs. reward in hiring talented players vs. unknown casters/ugly girlfriends is just not the same.
I don't even................. *ramble bamble*
"but it's not to be compared because it has nothing to do with each other"
So what you're saying is that things that has got nothing to do with each other can't be compared? Even if they have similarities in some ways? Seems a bit narrowminded. (They should have a connection since it's the same game they both focus on).
I know being a professional gamer and a caster is two very different things but come on........ some aspects of it must be comparable atleast (even if they are few).
"the risk vs. reward in hiring talented players vs. unknown casters/ugly girlfriends is just not the same."
My comparison was: unknown player with talent vs. unknown caster with talent (both showing the potential to become something big). Not the way you put it.
If you wanted it to look right and fair then your comment should've been: "the risk vs. reward in hiring unknown talented players vs. unknown talented casters/ugly girlfriends is just not the same".
It's been fun discussing with you but this leads nowhere. Im still going to say that there are some similarities and you will say that there are 0%. Sayonara!
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