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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
March 28 2012 22:28 GMT
#221
NASL always gets better and better and then some sad mishap happens... knock on wood- best of luck~
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 28 2012 22:29 GMT
#222
Please NASL though, don't split the casters up to much, I love Bitterdam as a duo, and while I like them with someone else, they are far better together. Their chemistry is just so superb <3
FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
March 28 2012 23:48 GMT
#223
I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 23:55:33
March 28 2012 23:52 GMT
#224
On March 29 2012 06:41 smallerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 05:42 Bumblebee wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:56 huehuehuehue wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote:
Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.

I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?

I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.


Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.

A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.


Orb was not asked to cast NASL S3, except maybe sometime early in Season 2 but he kinda burned all his bridges here, let alone many other places it seems.
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sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
March 29 2012 00:53 GMT
#225
I sincerely did not even realize there had been a season 2.
War is a drug.
Argolis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada211 Posts
March 29 2012 00:54 GMT
#226
On March 29 2012 08:52 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 06:41 smallerk wrote:
On March 29 2012 05:42 Bumblebee wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:56 huehuehuehue wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote:
Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.

I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?

I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.


Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.

A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.


Orb was not asked to cast NASL S3, except maybe sometime early in Season 2 but he kinda burned all his bridges here, let alone many other places it seems.


Keeping it classy since... never.
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
March 29 2012 01:40 GMT
#227
This is really exactly what NASL needed. The casting has been seriously holding it back for a while now. Nothing personal... but gretorp's casting is really bad. I can see this making NASL so much more popular.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
March 29 2012 01:51 GMT
#228
gretorp bustin out his sexy serious face
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 29 2012 01:52 GMT
#229
some more details out for S3:
http://www.nasl.tv/News/Article/20120329nasl-season-3-details
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korendir
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore259 Posts
March 29 2012 07:01 GMT
#230
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:
I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.


Didn't listen to the MLG stream with you on it, but this alone will make me hear you out :D
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
March 29 2012 09:00 GMT
#231
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:
I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.

Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
March 29 2012 09:23 GMT
#232
My thoughts on the casters,
Gretorp: I think Gretorp is a very likable person. I don't understand the hatred. He is a humble person and he's improving by working hard. I can respect that.
MrBitter: A great host, with a winning smile. I like him.
Rotterdam: He brings a bit of "Rebel without a cause" to the StarCraft scene. Colorful personality.
Frodan: I know very little about Frodan, but I wish him the best of luck.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 29 2012 09:24 GMT
#233
Very nice looking forward to it
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 11:59:26
March 29 2012 11:55 GMT
#234
On March 29 2012 18:00 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:
I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.

Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.


That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.

Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.

As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."

If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.

Have a little faith
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
March 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#235
On March 29 2012 08:52 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 06:41 smallerk wrote:
On March 29 2012 05:42 Bumblebee wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:56 huehuehuehue wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote:
Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.

I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?

I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.


Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.

A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.


Orb was not asked to cast NASL S3, except maybe sometime early in Season 2 but he kinda burned all his bridges here, let alone many other places it seems.

Bizarre seeming as Orb's "big break" was the NASL S2 finals imo.
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
March 29 2012 12:10 GMT
#236
who is frodan?
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
March 29 2012 12:15 GMT
#237
Wooh! I thought that NASL would die out after season 2 but turns out I was wrong - looks like they're back on the map!
Bitterdam fighting!
I haven't heard of Frodan before but I hope he does well, all the best!
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 12:18:00
March 29 2012 12:17 GMT
#238
On March 29 2012 20:55 Waterflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 18:00 Bumblebee wrote:
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:
I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.

Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.


That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.

Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.

As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."

If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.

Have a little faith

You can't compare athletes to commentators.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 12:50:50
March 29 2012 12:26 GMT
#239
On March 29 2012 21:17 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 20:55 Waterflow wrote:
On March 29 2012 18:00 Bumblebee wrote:
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote:
I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.

Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.


That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.

Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.

As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."

If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.

Have a little faith

You can't compare athletes to commentators.


I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few.

For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about)

And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good."

This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.).

With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 14:48:23
March 29 2012 14:47 GMT
#240
On March 29 2012 08:52 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 06:41 smallerk wrote:
On March 29 2012 05:42 Bumblebee wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:56 huehuehuehue wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote:
Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.

I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?

I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.


Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.

A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.


Orb was not asked to cast NASL S3, except maybe sometime early in Season 2 but he kinda burned all his bridges here, let alone many other places it seems.


It seems you are disconnected from your own tournament, how odd.

I was asked to cast S3 after the end of S2. I don't know how I burned any bridges. I told Russell I love NASL and the opportunities they gave me, and that I would be happy to continue working for them on a part-time basis (similar to what we did in S2), but that I did not want to work full-time and move to Los Angeles.

If turning down an offer is burning bridges, I guess you're right. I don't know how I could have been more respectful of the organization in my declining.
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