As the North American Star League moves to a live format for NASL Season 3, three additional casters have been added to the NASL casting crew: MrBitter, RotterDam, and Frodan. With the addition of these new casters, viewers of NASL Season 3 will enjoy an exciting variety of casting styles and perspectives.
While preparing for NASL Season 3, the casters were asked about their thoughts about the upcoming season, and why they were excited to be a part of the NASL team.
Gretorp’s Thoughts Reflecting back on Season 1, Gretorp reminisced on how he had been excited to be part of a “group of gamers, friends, and do-ers coming together to try to make a league like nobody else had before. We had high expectations, high goals, and big dreams at the start of NASL. “
Moving on to Season 2, Gretorp mentioned that the NASL team “showed the most determination out of anyone I have ever seen before in my life. We have improved by leaps and bounds.”
When asked why he was excited for NASL Season 3, Gretorp proclaimed he was happy that NASL is once again, “innovating the scene and pushing the limits of what people thought weren't plausible. We have new and improved equipment, a great casting lineup, awesome staff, and tons of motivation to deliver the audience the best and most relatable tournament that they have ever seen.”
In addition to the production improvements for NASL Season 3, Gretorp is enthusiastic about the changes in the season format, pointing out that the money on the line for every match gives each player “a shot to win tons of money in the group stages, which is something that hasn't been seen in any other league.”
In closing, Greorp stated, “We are actively pushing the envelope and trying our hardest to make the best tournament. I'm really excited for NASL Season 3 and I can't wait to share it with my fellow community members.”
MrBitter’s Thoughts When asked how he felt about joining the NASL team, MrBitter stated, “I'm very excited to be coming on board for NASL Season 3. The NASL team has really pulled out all the stops for Season 3. The production crew has been overhauled, and is anchored by a bona fide Hollywood producer.”
When asked about his thoughts on becoming a part of a larger casting family, MrBitter stated, “Kevin and I coming on means more casters, which is good for a multitude of reasons. It means casters won't burn out after 13 weeks of everyday broadcasting. It means the viewers won't burn out from seeing the same guys day in and day out. And most importantly, it means we get to keep doing what we love to do: cast awesome Starcraft.”
With regard to the new league format, MrBitter was quite optimistic, stating, “the format of the season has been improved, as well. Games will be live, and there will be live showmatches regularly. And at the end of the season, we'll have a live caster bash, the likes of which the community has never seen before. ”
In closing, MrBitter summarized his overarching sentiment with the following: “On the whole, everything about this next season has me amped up and ready to go. NASL Season 3 is going to solidify the North American Star League as one of the biggest players in the eSports scene.”
Rotterdam’s Thoughts When asked about his thoughts on the format of NASL Season 3, Rotterdam stated that he is, “really excited to follow the progress of players for 9 weeks in a row, as it lets you see their play styles evolve.” Additionally, Rotterdam is happy about the new live format, stating casting “as many live games as possible is going to be awesome” and that “working with a dedicated crew is something that really excites me.”
Rotterdam’s fans who know that he pays close attention to statistics won’t be surprised to hear that he loves, “the fact there is always something to fight for with $150 on the line,” for every match.
When asked about the current roster of players in NASL Season 3, Rotterdam did exude a tad bit of positive bias, saying, “I'm loving our player line-up so far, and I hope my Euro boys will show the rest of the world once more what they are capable of.”
Looking forward to the Sunday ShowDowns planned for NASL Season 3, Rotterdam expressed his enthusiasm for these events, stating, “I'm very much looking forward to our show matches, which I can see turning into a real classic event that everybody wants to watch!”
In closing, Rotterdam offered this sentiment: “All in all, I think Season 3 is going to be by far the best Season NASL has run so far, and I'm glad to be a part of it.”
Frodan’s Thoughts When asked why he was excited for Season 3, Frodan stated, “with the return of many powerhouse Korean players and the continued refinement of general Starcraft II strategies, I guarantee Season 3 will be one of the most memorable seasons we have seen yet. NASL has listened to the feedback and retains the motivation to constantly improve to bring the highest quality product.”
When asked about the opportunity to work for the NASL, Frodan stated, “I am extremely humbled by this opportunity to work with some of the biggest names in Starcraft II. I guarantee every viewer that I will be endlessly working on providing an enjoyable, exciting, and entertaining broadcast."
Thus, as the NASL studio bustles with preparations for Season 3, the casters and the entire NASL team sincerely look forward to offering viewers an unparalleled and enjoyable eSports viewing experience. Simply, the NASL casting team invites its viewers, as Frodan so simply put it, to, “Watch with us, laugh with us, and yell with us.”
Congratz guys! Best of Luck! NASL seems to be looking better and better every day. Also for those who don't know Frodan I'll copy paste my words from the reddit thread:
"Frodan is great, he has been casting playhem for a while, I believe he casted some NASL qualifier stuff as well. He was also at MLG casting gameplay streams 1-3. VODs from that can be found here: http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/events/10-winter-championship
But yeah congratulations to NASL for picking up these guys and congratz to the casters for getting this opportunity! NASL is learning from their mistakes and it seems like they are improving every day. I'm looking forward to season 3 :D."
Awesome. BitterdaM is always awesome. Have had mixed experiences with Frodan. He usually has these really enjoyable casts but sometimes it just doesn't click at all for me, think it's about getting used to him I think.
I think that casting at NASL will give him the experience he needs cos from talking to him in the Playhem chats he seems like a really chill guy!
Excellent, I watched NASL season 1 throughout the entire season but I found it difficult after that to get into anything other then the season 2 finals. Addition of these casters should defiantly get me to tune it =)
This is going to be great. For the people that don't know Frodan (far left), hes been casting playhems, he is very good at knowing when to babble on and banter, and when to know to talk about the game. also has a pretty great voice, no homo. NASL3 is going to be better than ever. glhf
Good stuff, congrats to bitterDam. I personally wish they would pull Gretorp entirely from casting duties to focus on production stuff (the guy just isn't at the same level of his peers) but this is a step in the right direction.
3 great casters, congratz NASL! Really looking forward to NASL season 3 now. This is going to be a success for sure unless you pull some awkward Gretorp + RotterdaM combination or something. Please just let the 3 new guys cast this and don't ruin it.
Wicked excited for them and on top of that NASL is really stepping up their game this season. I can't wait to see what the results are of all this overhaul and work.
Between this, their new executive producer, and the return of Korean players, I'm cautiously optimisitic for season 3. Haven't heard much about the format, but I'm pleased to hear that this season will be all live. If they can get that ironed out, fix their regular season production hiccups, fix their playoff/live production problems, and get a decent turnout for the live event, NASL3 will be superb.
Hopefully they'll bring in some more viewers for the NASL. This league seems as dead as can be right now, if not for the venture capital that guaranteed 3 seasons.
thank goodness, the biggest thing NASL was lacking was good casters, now they have two of the best. Hopefully the NASL can finally live up to some of the hype from the beginning
Signing Bitterdam to cast for them will bring a lot more viewers in, I was impressed with the NASTL but their viewer count never seemed to reach the heights it could have.
Hopefully season 3 is even better and they find the success they deserve.
Perhaps I can start now watch NASL games now that Gretorp is casting less. Players were good but casting was terrible but I think quality will go up now.
On March 28 2012 11:03 Clank wrote: thank goodness, the biggest thing NASL was lacking was good casters, now they have two of the best. Hopefully the NASL can finally live up to some of the hype from the beginning
Completely agree. No offense to NASL or their casters but if I could watch the same players in multiple leagues, I choose to watch the stream with the casters I like most, and more often than not it wasn't NASL. But Bitterdam is just SO good.
I'm not gonna lie, bitterdam is easily my favorite casting duo. Them casting for NASL will definitely make me watch NASL more now. NASL really needed these guys IMHO
Rotterdam’s fans who know that he pays close attention to statistics won’t be surprised to hear that he loves, “the fact there is always something to fight for with $150 on the line,” for every match.
That sounds so awesome! Maybe I'll actually tune in, if they don't charge an arm and a leg for live HD.
Excellent pickup by NASL, should be a nice addition. Other than tidbits from MLG, I don't know Frodan, but I from what I saw he should be nice. Bitterdam I know I will enjoy!
Great pickup by NASL. MrBitter and Rotty have great dynamic. I've had my grudge with NASL in the past, but pick up good talent like this and I'm sure the past is the past
*** EDIT *** I almost forgot my birthday lol :D Thanks TL!
I wasn't impressed with his casting at MLG. He spouted out information that was wrong over and over. Heres just one of them. He said that the NASTL finals match between hero and thorzain was VERY close which it was not. It ended in 3-0 for HerO. Tell me, how is that VERY close?
This is FANTASTIC! I haven't heard enough of Frodan's casting to really pass judgement, but I am curious to see how he will progress. I love the casting line up, love that it's live, and can't wait to hear more!
Wow NASL actually caring about introducting the casters is a huge step. Last season I felt they ignored the community by not announcing who would be replacing Geoff. I hope Bitterdam will give NASL a larger audience especially the europeans!
On March 28 2012 12:50 Oboeman wrote: Great move NASL.
I hope this doesn't tie down Mr B and rotti too much though, hopefully they can cast other events as well.
It's unlikely. They basically are trapped in a studio casting 5 days/nights a week more or less. Hope they like the gig and have what it takes to do THAT MUCH casting.
Great pick ups. I beg one thing though, do not break the casters up. Bitterdam has to stay together. We do not want to see bitter/gretorp, gretor/rotterdam, frodan/bitter.. etc etc.
Keep bitterdam together always. And please let them do a majority of the casting. I will be tuning in once again because of this aqqusation,
I've never even heard of Frodan before. Catchy name, but where did he come from?
I think it is a good move by NASL picking up quality casters like Bitterdam. I like Gretorp as a person (based on what I've seen anyway) but I just make myself listen to his casting. His unique sense of humor and jokes are like nails on a chalkboard for me, and everything just feels painfully awkward to me when he's on the mic. Season 3 will be the first time I actually tune in to watch NASL!! +1 viewer for NASL because of this move.
Also, 1,000 times this:
Great pick ups. I beg one thing though, do not break the casters up. Bitterdam has to stay together. We do not want to see bitter/gretorp, gretor/rotterdam, frodan/bitter.. etc etc.
Keep bitterdam together always. And please let them do a majority of the casting. I will be tuning in once again because of this aqqusation,
I for one will be tuning in and watching strictly for Bitterdam's casting. I can only speak for myself, but if the majority of the casting is any combination of Gretorp + <insert caster here> then I will be turning it off.
On March 28 2012 11:51 kochanfe wrote: lolololololol, orb is infinitely better than all these fools
Fools ? Dont call someone a fool , just beacause you like other casters Dont act like kid..
LOL, I agree. Orb would be infinitely better. And about the "fools" -- try to put yourself in the mind of a person talking in the USA. "Hey bros, let's do this!". "You think you can take us in a 3 on 3 hoops game? You fools better bring your game!"
I.E., "fools" never is meant in a derogatory fashion in the USA, as far as I've encountered and used the word.
I really like all the changes NASL has made for season 3. They are definitely listening to viewer's comments and suggestions while finding new innovating ways to improve the tournament and their production. Congratz to the new casters
Great Pickup by NASL, really enjoy Bitterdam casts. I dont understand all the hate on Gretorp here though, that guy still is one of the most knowledgeable casters arround and very enjoyable if you have any sense of humor at all. The Problem is just that most of his co-casters aint very good (i want Gretorp/incontrol back )
LOL, I agree. Orb would be infinitely better. And about the "fools" -- try to put yourself in the mind of a person talking in the USA. "Hey bros, let's do this!". "You think you can take us in a 3 on 3 hoops game? You fools better bring your game!"
I.E., "fools" never is meant in a derogatory fashion in the USA, as far as I've encountered and used the word.
You know, the same argument could be used if you replaced "fools" with the word that got Orb into so much trouble.
Good luck to Ben and Kev, I hope they'll enjoy their new jobs I've never really tuned in to the smaller broadcasts of the NASL, but I might just start doing that now, as I can't go for too long without my dose of BitterdaM awesomeness
nice! bitterdamn, well not much needs to be said about them that hasnt been said already
as for frodan, i thought he did awesome on the secondary streams at mlg. he worked well and meshed with all the casters he was paired up with (my favorite was frodan and tumba)
good move by nasl, as an 'on the fence' fan when it comes to nasl, i am now definitely much more excited for the upcoming season
I have to say that the casters was one of the main reason I didn't watch last season.
I have nothing against Gretorp, I think he is fine with Incontrol as cocaster, but with the other casters it was just not working. I think you need to have a complicity between the two cocaster, and bitterdam sure have that;
I don't know why, but NASL is not interesting to me at all. They have great players and now they also have good casters, but I don't know. Just seems like uninteresting besides the finals. Will obvioulsy still watch some of the games, but most likely very little amount.
Edit: Might be, because I prefer leagues with Koreans, because I don't think of nearly non-Korean leagues as the highest competition, but thats up to anyone to decide on their own.
On March 28 2012 14:45 Icemind wrote: Great Pickup by NASL, really enjoy Bitterdam casts. I dont understand all the hate on Gretorp here though, that guy still is one of the most knowledgeable casters arround and very enjoyable if you have any sense of humor at all. The Problem is just that most of his co-casters aint very good (i want Gretorp/incontrol back )
So you really believe that almost every guest caster is doing bad and Gretorp is doing fine? Isn´t it more likely that its the other way around?
Having them live online is nice but the best way for NASL to make money is to have the players play live in studio like GSL. Having all these players in one area would help the foreigners catch up in skill, too, kind of like the "korean effect".
On March 28 2012 16:38 dgwow wrote: Are these games live in-studio?
Having them live online is nice but the best way for NASL to make money is to have the players play live in studio like GSL. Having all these players in one area would help the foreigners catch up in skill, too, kind of like the "korean effect".
You realize that the NASL consists of players from Korea, North America and Europe right?
welp, looks like im watching NASL next season. The casters and it not being live were my two biggest gripes with it, and now that they are solved i am pretty pumped for it!
On March 28 2012 15:53 Type|NarutO wrote: I don't know why, but NASL is not interesting to me at all. They have great players and now they also have good casters, but I don't know. Just seems like uninteresting besides the finals. Will obvioulsy still watch some of the games, but most likely very little amount.
Edit: Might be, because I prefer leagues with Koreans, because I don't think of nearly non-Korean leagues as the highest competition, but thats up to anyone to decide on their own.
I find the league format to be boring and pointless. When you have a 10 player group the game gets so much less fun to watch since they dont get eliminated as fast.
Oh and it dosent help the fact that their league have had tons of mistakes over the past 2 seasons, so if i am watching reruns it comes down to IPL or NASL. For me its a very easy choice......
On March 28 2012 14:45 Icemind wrote: Great Pickup by NASL, really enjoy Bitterdam casts. I dont understand all the hate on Gretorp here though, that guy still is one of the most knowledgeable casters arround and very enjoyable if you have any sense of humor at all. The Problem is just that most of his co-casters aint very good (i want Gretorp/incontrol back )
So you really believe that almost every guest caster is doing bad and Gretorp is doing fine? Isn´t it more likely that its the other way around?
I believe that the guest caster are the problem, because the 2 cocaster need to know eachother and cast more often together.
This is going to be sweet, Bitterdam have become my favourite casters over the last few months, mostly because they are now the guys I see cast the most. Keep up the good work!!
just echoing this is really good for NASL. Heres hoping they go from strength to strength. How far they have come so far is a credit to everyone who is/has been involved. Can only wish them the best going forwards.
Even though Gretorp etc is doing his best, I do enjoy BitterDam alot more because they have a good chemistry going on which I found often lacking in NASL broadcasts and which left me less likely to watch.
Well this might just get me back to watching NASL, but please, try to not have the finals on european monday morning, really any other time is fine. I can understand you want them on USA primetime, but have them on a saturday then so we can watch sunday morning.
On March 28 2012 18:50 Zandar wrote: Well this might just get me back to watching NASL, but please, try to not have the finals on european monday morning, really any other time is fine. I can understand you want them on USA primetime, but have them on a saturday then so we can watch sunday morning.
1. They bring in a top 3 casting duo (at worst top 5) in Bitterdam. 2. There's money at stake for every single group play match. (This is a major innovation. Gives so much more extra incentive for players and viewers) 3. Overhaul of production team. And if the Hollywood producer is as good as advertised, this is huge because NASL always seemed a little shaky production wise.
Props to NASL for really making strides to improve their product.
I don't like to write bad things about casters since it's entirely subjective but I was always more sensitive to the voice of casters than their game knowledge and sadly, much like HD/CatsPajamas in IPL, i didn't like the voice of Gretorp, no matter how good his actual casting or game knowledge is, so after season 1, where iNControl talked enough to mitigate my problem with Gretorps voice, i didn't watch NASL anymore.
Wow that's amazing, Rotterdam is like the best commentator in existence for SC2 and Mrbitter is pretty good when he's not being too biased / whiny in the games as well!
On March 28 2012 18:50 Zandar wrote: Well this might just get me back to watching NASL, but please, try to not have the finals on european monday morning, really any other time is fine. I can understand you want them on USA primetime, but have them on a saturday then so we can watch sunday morning.
iirc they do eu rebroadcasts
I know :/ I hate the term "rebroadcast" It's not live, it's more like watching the GSL vods the day after.
Finals are not only about watching on your own, it's the community feeling too, knowing 10000s of nerds are watching this together with you. The live thread discussions here on TL etc. Cheering in the players fanclubs when they won.
I hope they really reconsider that re-broadcasting sillyness and put vods up faster instead. And have the finals on a time that suits most watchers.
I really want to support Nasl, but when they finals were on a monday morning and I couldn't watch them I was quite dissapointed. They lost me as a customer there and frankly I don't want that at all. I want to pay them and watch their finals live, but if I can't I have to skip.
This is awesome - live casting as well as more $$ - great plan to offer $$ on each match (if I'm reading this correctly). I watched lots of Season 1 and started Season 2 but honestly I was having a problem finding good matches among the sheer volume of games (I'm a Dad with a 3 year old so my SC2 time is limited). The changes look like they can amplify the per-match excitement.
On March 28 2012 15:53 Type|NarutO wrote: I don't know why, but NASL is not interesting to me at all. They have great players and now they also have good casters, but I don't know. Just seems like uninteresting besides the finals. Will obvioulsy still watch some of the games, but most likely very little amount.
Edit: Might be, because I prefer leagues with Koreans, because I don't think of nearly non-Korean leagues as the highest competition, but thats up to anyone to decide on their own.
I find the league format to be boring and pointless. When you have a 10 player group the game gets so much less fun to watch since they dont get eliminated as fast.
I agree. I like the format of big groupplay or 'leagues' very much. It is the most fair system. But in NASL it doesnt have much importance. Way too many get into the playoffs. Last season Ret (5-2 record) and Vibe (2-5) both were in playoffs. Then we have the final which is single elimination (at least Bo5 now), but thats still a lot more luck-dependend and disappointing after having such a long groupstage.
I really don't get all the Gretorp casting hate. Sure, in season 1 he was really bad, but he has improved his casting a lot and is one of the better casters right now imo. Never the less, adding Bitterdam and Frodan is a great move and will probably add a lot of quality to NASL.
On March 28 2012 23:27 hugman wrote: I might watch it now, at least the games Gretorp aren't casting
same here. i was so unimpressed after season 1 that i stopped watching nasl entirely. Adding bitter and especially rotti however is a genius move to win fans of sc2 like me back. Hope they've gotten better. Oh and i hated gretorps casting so much that i doubt he was able to change it enough for me to start liking it. Guess tastes differ (is that correct english?^^) nothing personal.
On March 29 2012 00:25 claash wrote: let mr.bitter and gretorp cast together and we will have a neutral cast again i think you understand what i mean*smile*
I'm not a fan of bitterdam. When they try to be funny I usually get a strong Beavis and Buthead vibe. Rotterdam knows a lot about the game though, but he is sometimes hard to understand. Good luck though.
Great news for NASL, Bitterdam is a great duo and a community favorite so this is a big opportunity for them to gain popularity again.
I do have this weird feeling in the back of my head that they're gonna mess this up by making Rotti cast with Gretorp or something similar, but I hope they prove me wrong.
I expected NASL to grow quieter before becoming even more irrelevant in season 3. I had grown sad watching Gretorp, like a captain going down with a ship the crew had all but abandoned.
Might watch NASL with them casting. Then again, I might not once the other casters are casting at that moment. ( no offense to Frodan, I haven't ever heard his casts ).
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote: Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.
I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?
I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.
Wow, with BitterDam beeing lost for the European scene, what will happen to ESL? Khaldor moved to Korea as well, only thing I cant think of are some local casters who cast at their specific language.
Its sad to see them leave, their cast is great and imho NASL sucked so hard lately, I think they can make it big again (which makes me happy on the other hand).
Maybe finally Kaelaris and his sexy accent are finally getting the attention they need!
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote: Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.
I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?
I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.
Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.
A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote: Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.
I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?
I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.
I agree. People should get their feet wet before taking a huge leap.
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote: Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.
I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?
I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.
Where he lacks game knowledge I can 100% assure you he makes up with his drive and dedication. I think he's done plenty to "get his feet wet" and now that he's completely focused on the game, I think he will surprise you over time.
Bitterdam is obviously a great pickup for nasl, but Frodan is an intriguing choice as well. He has been with the scene since the beta days, faded away for a while, but came back strong in the local scene with SoCal eSports/Dolby LAN/Playhem in the past months. Of course, he's not yet tested in the big stage, but NASL has quite a history of picking up casters and giving them a chance (besides incontrol/gretorp, also mrbitters/catspajamas/orb) on the majors.
Frodan has the right fundamentals and work ethic. I am curious on whether he can archon well with the other three proven casters.
Please NASL though, don't split the casters up to much, I love Bitterdam as a duo, and while I like them with someone else, they are far better together. Their chemistry is just so superb <3
I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote: Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.
I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?
I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.
Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.
A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.
Orb was not asked to cast NASL S3, except maybe sometime early in Season 2 but he kinda burned all his bridges here, let alone many other places it seems.
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote: Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.
I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?
I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.
Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.
A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.
Orb was not asked to cast NASL S3, except maybe sometime early in Season 2 but he kinda burned all his bridges here, let alone many other places it seems.
This is really exactly what NASL needed. The casting has been seriously holding it back for a while now. Nothing personal... but gretorp's casting is really bad. I can see this making NASL so much more popular.
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Didn't listen to the MLG stream with you on it, but this alone will make me hear you out :D
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
My thoughts on the casters, Gretorp: I think Gretorp is a very likable person. I don't understand the hatred. He is a humble person and he's improving by working hard. I can respect that. MrBitter: A great host, with a winning smile. I like him. Rotterdam: He brings a bit of "Rebel without a cause" to the StarCraft scene. Colorful personality. Frodan: I know very little about Frodan, but I wish him the best of luck.
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.
Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.
As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."
If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote: Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.
I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?
I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.
Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.
A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.
Orb was not asked to cast NASL S3, except maybe sometime early in Season 2 but he kinda burned all his bridges here, let alone many other places it seems.
Bizarre seeming as Orb's "big break" was the NASL S2 finals imo.
Wooh! I thought that NASL would die out after season 2 but turns out I was wrong - looks like they're back on the map! Bitterdam fighting! I haven't heard of Frodan before but I hope he does well, all the best!
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.
Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.
As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."
If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.
Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.
As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."
If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.
Have a little faith
You can't compare athletes to commentators.
I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few.
For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about)
And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good."
This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.).
With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation.
On March 29 2012 04:51 Bumblebee wrote: Frodan.. Now that's just sad. I'm sorry, but it really is.
I don't know who Frodan is, why is it sad?
I don't think he's worth listening to, I'm afraid. He speaks of the game in facts yet he has close to zero knowledge. He casts a major tournament like MLG, yet he still doesn't know the teams' names and is generally just not doing a very good job. I think people should prove themselves worthy before getting a chance to cast such a big tournament.
Orb said yesterday on his stream he was offered to cast nasl s3, but he picked EG instead.
A shame really, bitterdam + orb would've been perfect.
Orb was not asked to cast NASL S3, except maybe sometime early in Season 2 but he kinda burned all his bridges here, let alone many other places it seems.
It seems you are disconnected from your own tournament, how odd.
I was asked to cast S3 after the end of S2. I don't know how I burned any bridges. I told Russell I love NASL and the opportunities they gave me, and that I would be happy to continue working for them on a part-time basis (similar to what we did in S2), but that I did not want to work full-time and move to Los Angeles.
If turning down an offer is burning bridges, I guess you're right. I don't know how I could have been more respectful of the organization in my declining.
On March 30 2012 04:07 Kable wrote: I love the 'feeling' when I watch BitterdaM cast, it feels a bit like 'home' usually.
So I'm definitely looking forward to this! Major improvement getting well-known casters liked by the community.
Oh man, you've nailed the exact feeling i get when i watch those guys. It feels like i'm hanging out watching the game with my buddies (buddies that know a lot more about the game then i do, mind you ;D) instead of watching an actual cast.
There were many times i tuned in just to see Rotterdam cast something i normally would have passed on due to the excess of content these days. Mr Bitter at first didnt really appeal to me, but after awhile he just kinda didnt go away and he grew on me a bit. I think he really loves esports and cares about doing a decent job. So im glad for both of them to be moving up.
On March 30 2012 08:41 captainshards wrote: There were many times i tuned in just to see Rotterdam cast something i normally would have passed on due to the excess of content these days. Mr Bitter at first didnt really appeal to me, but after awhile he just kinda didnt go away and he grew on me a bit. I think he really loves esports and cares about doing a decent job. So im glad for both of them to be moving up.
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.
Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.
As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."
If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.
Have a little faith
You can't compare athletes to commentators.
I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few.
For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about)
And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good."
This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.).
With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation.
Not really. The two things you are putting out there is things that apply to everything in life, literally everything. Things and people need to grow, and there needs to be failure, to be success. It's pretty simple and how life works. However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense. Sure you said you're doing it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is a sensible ground for a discussion.
Love Rotterdam. He's so good looking and blonde so you're expecting him to be dumb as rocks till he starts spitting knowledge. I like how he tells one story about whatever player he is casting (the epic naama stories come to mind), showing their personality as well as game talent.
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.
Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.
As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."
If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.
Have a little faith
You can't compare athletes to commentators.
I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few.
For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about)
And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good."
This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.).
With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation.
Not really. The two things you are putting out there is things that apply to everything in life, literally everything. Things and people need to grow, and there needs to be failure, to be success. It's pretty simple and how life works. However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense. Sure you said you're doing it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is a sensible ground for a discussion.
"However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense."
Explain to me then why it can't be compared at all and doesn't make sense. Why can't it be compared?
Example: "An unknown male is striving to become a decently well known caster that works for a big tournament organisation. He starts streaming. People start to like him and/or his casting. He get's more and more viewers. He get's featured on teamliquid. He get's even more and more viewers. Suddenly he get's offers to do gigs for some minor cups. He get's even more recognition. Some time passes. Now a big tournament organisation decides it's time to recruit this rising star in the casting scene. He get's the job and his goals have been achieved!
Take that example and imagine it's a SC2 player instead who want's to join a big team. Why can't it be compared and why doesn't it make sense?
On March 30 2012 20:57 Robinsa wrote: BitterdaM will make this excellent as they do with everything else they participate in. Theyre the top tier casters with artosis, apollo and JP.
I love JP, but I would not consider him a top tier caster
Tastosis/Apollo/Day9/BitterdaM are the top tier IMO :D
I really like the casts of Rotterdam and MrBitter :D Hopefully Bitterdam improve more and more in their caster carreer that they get additional fans. Haven't heard anything about FrodaN yet, but i'll give him a chance.
On March 28 2012 10:20 Pocky52 wrote: Awesome! NASL looking to turn out really well this season! Any news as to when it is? Congrats to the new casters as well!!!
According to NASL Youtube trailers the new season will commence April 11th. Roughly one year after NASL debuted.
On March 30 2012 16:40 TRaFFiC wrote: Love Rotterdam. He's so good looking and blonde so you're expecting him to be dumb as rocks till he starts spitting knowledge. I like how he tells one story about whatever player he is casting (the epic naama stories come to mind), showing their personality as well as game talent.
I feel like sometimes the NASL storytelling gets in the way of their casts. Lets hope they step their game up in season 3.
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.
Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.
As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."
If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.
Have a little faith
You can't compare athletes to commentators.
I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few.
For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about)
And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good."
This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.).
With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation.
Not really. The two things you are putting out there is things that apply to everything in life, literally everything. Things and people need to grow, and there needs to be failure, to be success. It's pretty simple and how life works. However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense. Sure you said you're doing it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is a sensible ground for a discussion.
"However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense."
Explain to me then why it can't be compared at all and doesn't make sense. Why can't it be compared?
Example: "An unknown male is striving to become a decently well known caster that works for a big tournament organisation. He starts streaming. People start to like him and/or his casting. He get's more and more viewers. He get's featured on teamliquid. He get's even more and more viewers. Suddenly he get's offers to do gigs for some minor cups. He get's even more recognition. Some time passes. Now a big tournament organisation decides it's time to recruit this rising star in the casting scene. He get's the job and his goals have been achieved!
Take that example and imagine it's a SC2 player instead who want's to join a big team. Why can't it be compared and why doesn't it make sense?
Because the whole risk/reward aspect is not anything close to the same.
With the way you're arguing, I could draw an aspect to getting a girlfriend with a potential of me loving her and she's getting hot - could be, but could also not be. Yes, it is the "same situation" and the "same thing you do", but it's not to be compared because it has nothing to do with each other and the risk vs. reward in hiring talented players vs. unknown casters/ugly girlfriends is just not the same.
On March 29 2012 08:48 FrodaN wrote: I'll work hard Bumblebee! I'm sure you can find it somewhere in your heart to forgive me, Clutch, Tasteless, and many others on a team name mishap . As for the game knowledge, I'll do my best to impress you, but ultimately you need to also be willing to listen in the future--otherwise there's no point in offering criticism. Thanks everyone for the enormous support and I promise that I am not taking this opportunity lightly.
Obviously I have room in my heart to change opinion on people, no worries. Everybody obviously do mishaps, but I genuinely think you thought it was called "mouse e-Sports" as you said about 10 times during the casts. However, it's not a big deal. It was the culmination of everything that made it not a good experience, but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good. But I do still think it's a big step and a big risk for such a big tournament to hire a caster like you without any brand, nor amazing performances.
That's why big teams sometimes hire risk-subject's ("unknown" players who have impressed and could have huge potential but haven't really got the platform to show it yet). With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves.
Im sure it's the same thing with Frodan. If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him.
As you said: "but as long as you are willing to work and improve - that is good."
If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good. Because people who make no mistakes doesn't exist.
Have a little faith
You can't compare athletes to commentators.
I just did. It's called a comparison. You compare two different things that have similarities in SOME areas even if the similarities might be few.
For example how is this sentence not comparable to athletes?: "If NASL didn't like him or see any potential in him they wouldn't of hired him." (Could of been a player i was talking about)
And this: "If you make no mistakes you will never ever be good."
This: "With a big organisation they learn more to grow as a player and all the aspects that involves." (By working for NASL he will be around more experienced casters who can teach him more about the techniques of casting etc.).
With your comment it feels like you're just trying to get a cheap way out of this conversation.
Not really. The two things you are putting out there is things that apply to everything in life, literally everything. Things and people need to grow, and there needs to be failure, to be success. It's pretty simple and how life works. However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense. Sure you said you're doing it, but that doesn't mean it makes sense or is a sensible ground for a discussion.
"However, the comparison between athletes and commentators and on why/how they are brought into organizations when unknown/talented is hugely different and can't be compared at all because it doesn't make sense."
Explain to me then why it can't be compared at all and doesn't make sense. Why can't it be compared?
Example: "An unknown male is striving to become a decently well known caster that works for a big tournament organisation. He starts streaming. People start to like him and/or his casting. He get's more and more viewers. He get's featured on teamliquid. He get's even more and more viewers. Suddenly he get's offers to do gigs for some minor cups. He get's even more recognition. Some time passes. Now a big tournament organisation decides it's time to recruit this rising star in the casting scene. He get's the job and his goals have been achieved!
Take that example and imagine it's a SC2 player instead who want's to join a big team. Why can't it be compared and why doesn't it make sense?
Because the whole risk/reward aspect is not anything close to the same.
With the way you're arguing, I could draw an aspect to getting a girlfriend with a potential of me loving her and she's getting hot - could be, but could also not be. Yes, it is the "same situation" and the "same thing you do", but it's not to be compared because it has nothing to do with each other and the risk vs. reward in hiring talented players vs. unknown casters/ugly girlfriends is just not the same.
I don't even................. *ramble bamble*
"but it's not to be compared because it has nothing to do with each other"
So what you're saying is that things that has got nothing to do with each other can't be compared? Even if they have similarities in some ways? Seems a bit narrowminded. (They should have a connection since it's the same game they both focus on).
I know being a professional gamer and a caster is two very different things but come on........ some aspects of it must be comparable atleast (even if they are few).
"the risk vs. reward in hiring talented players vs. unknown casters/ugly girlfriends is just not the same."
My comparison was: unknown player with talent vs. unknown caster with talent (both showing the potential to become something big). Not the way you put it.
If you wanted it to look right and fair then your comment should've been: "the risk vs. reward in hiring unknown talented players vs. unknown talented casters/ugly girlfriends is just not the same".
It's been fun discussing with you but this leads nowhere. Im still going to say that there are some similarities and you will say that there are 0%. Sayonara!
More/better casters and live games is going to make NASL feel like a truly relevant tournament this season I believe, it really took a back seat for season 2 with so many other tournaments upping their game and NASL falling behind.
Update: MrBitter Interview - Part 1 The NASL casters were interviewed and asked their thoughts on NASL Season 3. Part 1 of MrBitter's interview is here:
I don't think I have ever heard Frodan cast before, but I am super excited about Mr.Bitter and Rotterdam. Great team! I remember back when Mrbitter was doing 12 weeks with the pros and he wasn't a caster. Seems like such a long time ago.
obviously im happy bitterdam is casting there great, but frodan, didnt know much about this guy but i really like his work with gretorp, i think hes really to the point has smart things to say and has a good casting voice, great casting everyone really enjoyable
Been kind of disappointed with these casts lately. I'm also not totally stoked on the constant references Frodan makes to the amount of gambling that goes on behind the scenes at NASL. It's not that I'm like, against it, it's just that I fundamentally--truly and utterly--don't fucking care. I guess that's not even totally a Frodan thing, it's a "we work at NASL" thing--we get it, you have fun working at NASL.
The amount of talk about "how much fun you guys have together" behind the scenes and the ongoing jokes between you two, and the other casting duo, it's painfully similar to morning talk show hosts and it hurts to listen to. It feels incredibly forced and awkward as if you're trying to convince us of it, but we don't really need to be convinced...I don't believe anyone anticipates NASL to be a particularly authoritarian work zone.
I had quite a bit written out but I felt it was beginning to border on personal attacks. Suffice to say, Frodan needs to be a chill-toss a bit more and Gretorp needs to tone down the awkwardness. There's too much awkward silence after poorly executed jokes/references.
I have a friend staying with me at the moment who doesn't play Starcraft, and when I had NASL on last night he noticed right away how often Gretorp gets his words jumbled and can take a long time to say almost nothing. It's never truly bad though, just part of the package.
When he's good he's good imo. Much better than season 1.
Frodan and Gretorp have to them certain geeky charms that I can relate to. Not to say that bitterdam aren't oozing in sexiness, but I imagine Gretrodan (has an archon name been decided?) probably more inherently familiar to the typical nerd baller than a romantic southerner or dashing European.
On May 29 2012 06:31 Primadog wrote: Frodan and Gretorp have to them certain geeky charms that I can relate to. Not to say that bitterdam aren't oozing in sexiness, but I imagine Gretrodan (has an archon name been decided?) probably more inherently familiar to the typical nerd baller than a romantic southerner or dashing European.
After watching the relatively well-casted WCS finals (particularly the final matches that they casted, unfortunately) it appears that what's "on the line" determines how much effort you give to casting. And it shines thru in the mid-game when you make sloppy calls like it's just another ladder game. I would appreciate it if you would parallel your professionalism across all matches that you cast, because the WCS match between snute and stc made it seem like they were two random master players, and that you had no fallback for not casting them like pros, and it bored the shit out of me.
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BitterdaM is always awesome. Have had mixed experiences with Frodan. He usually has these really enjoyable casts but sometimes it just doesn't click at all for me, think it's about getting used to him I think.
