You should only use 2-3 buttons. The minimum two are quite obvious, but I know some people use a third to scroll the map (where you hold the button and essentially drag the screen). Maybe use some of the others for location hotkeys, but you're better off with the keyboard for that. So much of the game relies on your mouse accuracy, so I wouldn't try anything crazy that would take away from that.

SYGY

Canada88 Posts

March 18 2012 05:17 GMT

#62

I use the Razer Lachesis, its both left handed and right handed. It has 2 side buttons, for the < one I make it back space and for the > I make it 0 which is all my queens. So it's much easier to larva enject.

Halcyondaze

United States509 Posts

March 18 2012 05:18 GMT

#63

Using a driver is against the rules if you are macroing keys. The only way to play at a professional level without breaking the rules is to only use 3 mouse buttons which have to be "Mouse button 1, 2, 3" which can be bound in game through hotkeys, which would make it legal. Playing SC2 with a Naga or some other bullshit mouse is just you trying to get a little bit past your skill plateau, but it won't do much for you anyway.

Edit: Trying to use mouse buttons for an RTS is not going to help you improve, it will just make you hit a skill cap more quickly. While it may seem that your skill is increasing quickly, all that is really happening is that you are exhausting the small gimmick that allows you to do certain mechanics better than before. If you would simply improve using standard hotkeys and the keyboard you probably will have slower skill increase, but much more reliable and you will find no skill ceiling other than your own determination.

arterian

Canada1157 Posts

March 18 2012 05:22 GMT

#64

thumb buttons are ctrl and shift

Nagano

United States1157 Posts

March 18 2012 05:23 GMT

#65

On March 18 2012 14:09 Joedaddy wrote:
Left and right click only. Personally, I think all you guys using actual mouse buttons for control groups and beyond is "cheating." Maybe it is or maybe it isn't, but I suspect there is a reason we don't see Professional players using mouse buttons.

It's not "cheating" if you can straight up bind the buttons in the SC2 client. Unlike grey territory, like mouse scroll to Left Click.

And as for the mouse scroll, pretty sure Stephano and Nestea altered their mouseware/drivers to be able to do this. So they're going beyond simply binding mouse buttons in the SC2 client.

Nagano

United States1157 Posts

March 18 2012 05:24 GMT

#66

On March 18 2012 14:18 Halcyondaze wrote:
Using a driver is against the rules if you are macroing keys. The only way to play at a professional level without breaking the rules is to only use 3 mouse buttons which have to be "Mouse button 1, 2, 3" which can be bound in game through hotkeys, which would make it legal. Playing SC2 with a Naga or some other bullshit mouse is just you trying to get a little bit past your skill plateau, but it won't do much for you anyway

Nestea/Stephano use mouse scroll to left click infested terrans and there's been no controversy about it so far afaik.

Halcyondaze

United States509 Posts

March 18 2012 05:25 GMT

#67

On March 18 2012 14:24 Nagano wrote:

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Nestea/Stephano use mouse scroll to left click infested terrans and there's been no controversy about it so far afaik.

They are simply moving a standard mouse click onto another button. That is not the same as changing a mouse button to a keyboard key.

thezanursic

5499 Posts

March 18 2012 05:43 GMT

#68

The extra buttons are made for wow players who use macros. Real gamers don't actually use them.

figq

12519 Posts

March 18 2012 06:04 GMT

#69

I could buy mouse and keyboard with additional buttons and special keys, but I deliberately don't do it. I play on the cheapest standard Logitech stuff like a true mang.

Pulimuli

Sweden2766 Posts

March 18 2012 06:10 GMT

#70

Only have left+right click and a scroll button (which i use to change sensitivity when pressed down and scrolled)

Using razer abyssus

Reactwhat

United Kingdom10 Posts

March 18 2012 06:36 GMT

#71

People using "mouse accuracy" as a key thing probably dont think about the absurdity of having to change where youre looking with the same pointer that also has to aim accurately... panning (even with mouseshortcuts) seems far more practical.

Bascal

United States30 Posts

March 18 2012 06:48 GMT

#72

On March 18 2012 14:18 Halcyondaze wrote:
The only way to play at a professional level without breaking the rules is to only use 3 mouse buttons which have to be "Mouse button 1, 2, 3" which can be bound in game through hotkeys.

Can anybody confirm that this is true? It's not that I don't believe you it's just that if it is true this has a huge impact on whether I continue using my G700 or look for a trade or something on craigslist for a Deathadder or something more RTS friendly.

I see what you mean by artificially increasing my skill cap though and while I'm sure you're right I'll probably continue to use those 3 buttons at least. I don't think that having them set as Production facilities like my Nexus, Robo and Stargate would ever cause accuracy issues since I won't be controlling units at that time anyway and when I think about it, once I get used to the system it makes more sense to select a building with my mouse buttons hit the unit I want to build on the keyboard and then right click to rally. I don't know but that still seems more logical to me than setting them to 4,5,6 or something further out of the way.

Most everything else is standard for me except a few things like building immortals, blink and other stuff put at awkward places to hit quickly on default imo.

Edit: I can't find anything on MLGs rules about limiting mouse buttons and they even let you submit your mouse beforehand so they can install drivers. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/starcraft-2-rules-and-settings

GSLs a no go too: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/64582

Looks like the two biggest pro tournament holders don't enforce mouse button policies... Anybody that can dig up some other stuff?

I checked Dreamhack 2011's rules and didn't see anything about equipment and IEM's rules were hard to find. No offense but it's looking like this 'tournaments don't allow more than 3 mouse buttons' thing is a thing of the past or misinformation. Somebody is more than welcome to prove me wrong though, I just can't see to find anything to confirm this.

Tatari

United States1179 Posts

March 18 2012 06:48 GMT

#73

I only use my deathadder side buttons for camera views.

stecman

United States14 Posts

March 18 2012 07:08 GMT

#74

I shattered two metatarsal bones in my left hand playing softball, and although its healed now it's super clunky and I find it difficult to get my left hand moving around quickly and accurately. So I bind a lot of my keys with my G700.

I've got Shift as my middle mouse scroll button.
I've got Ctrl as one of them.
I've got one of the buttons as 0 - all my hatches.
I've got all my queens on 9 - on another button.
I've got backspace as one of them. (for injecting)

Edit: Spelling.

Fencar

United States2694 Posts

March 18 2012 07:15 GMT

#75

I use my forward mouse button for my Orbitals and Upgrades, and my back mouse button for Hellions and scouting workers early game, and Drops for mid-late game.

I also use my middle mouse button to scroll short distances, as I find it easier than moving the mouse to the edge of the screen.