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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
When I've actually played in the past couple months (Protoss diamond here), the most common MU for me is PvZ, and I REALLY hate that one. :/ lol. I wish I played against more Terrans. I played Terran in BW, although the games are pretty different, I feel like I have a better understanding of handling Terran players than Zerg lol  . | ||
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TrojanSC2
United States82 Posts
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striderxxx
Canada443 Posts
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mazqo
Finland368 Posts
Protoss account: Total games 730 - 317 PvP (43%) - 246 PvZ (34%) - 167 PvT (23%) Terran account: Total games 1157 - 461 TvP (40%) - 375 TvZ (32%) - 321 TvT(28%) As you can see there are less terrans in highmasters/gm. And my protoss account is ~top50-100 gm and my terran is rank100-200 master(sc2ranks, eu), which means i play higher level opponents with my protoss account, so there are more protoss and zergs in top top top of the ladder. Yes, i play a lot. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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NoctemSC
United States771 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:26 striderxxx wrote: Simple, all the Diamon Terran are now in Masters!!! But this argument is invalid because in Masters, Terran is the lowest population as well. Refer to the link at the bottom of the OP. | ||
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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scarper65
1560 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:18 DGenerate wrote: You should come back here when you have a sample of at least 100 before this discussion can continue imo. If I recall correctly from stats, once it passes N=30 you're pretty well fine because your distribution more and more resembles the normal curve. | ||
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MHT
Sweden1026 Posts
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
Once players get the skills to macro and micro at the same time, Terran win rates, and thus their representation, pick back up. I don't think it's necessarily imbalanced, just that it's hard to make the game equally difficult for all races at all skill levels. | ||
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NoctemSC
United States771 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:32 Gheed wrote: Around the mid levels of skill (check the SC2Ranks stats for gold through diamond) I think Terran is the most difficult race to play. It's harder to split marines than it is to a-move banelings, for example. Stutter stepping a marauder/marine force certainly takes more APM than having chargelots automatically pursue them. Once players get the skills to macro and micro at the same time, Terran win rates, and thus their representation, pick back up. I don't think it's necessarily imbalanced, just that it's hard to make the game equally difficult for all races at all skill levels. I'm not really stating I think Terran is too weak per say overall. I added the sc2ranks link and it clearly shows Terran is the lowest played race in anything Gold through GM now. I'm concerned on the ratio shifts, I certainly do not want to play 60% of my games as TvPs but that's just me. On a side note, I love your blogs. | ||
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Heweree
United Kingdom497 Posts
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NoctemSC
United States771 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:35 TheAngelofDeath wrote: They're all in grandmasters. Again, if you're not going to actually read the evidence I've posted or take 5 seconds out of your day to click the link then why even bother responding to a post you don't actually know anything about? | ||
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RUS RO DAH!!!
United States277 Posts
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
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Jyros
United States11 Posts
EDIT: Ah well, after having been sucked into BW for the last three months (trying to catch up on great games), I've been reading that it's not uncommon for years of inbalance in matchups before they are fixed. Maybe SC2 is just going through one of those? | ||
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:34 NoctemSC wrote: I'm not really stating I think Terran is too weak per say overall. I added the sc2ranks link and it clearly shows Terran is the lowest played race in anything Gold through GM now. I'm concerned on the ratio shifts, I certainly do not want to play 60% of my games as TvPs but that's just me. On a side note, I love your blogs. I would say to look at KR master league and GM league for the next step in skill progression after NA/EU GM league. In Korea, terrans are a bit overrepresented in master and about even in GM. At the end of the day, people aren't playing terran because they don't want to play terran. Since there were tons of terran in 2010, and far less now, you could say either A: people got bored of playing terran and switched or B: they switched to a race they feel is better. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On March 11 2012 11:23 NoctemSC wrote: This is true, however I'm not only referring to at a professional level as I do not make a habit of playing at a pro level (or I'm just bad) Also on a sidenote, I think you've replied to every thread I've ever been in. He replies to almost every thread, he's got over 18,000 posts. Terran is a very multi-tasking intensive race, it requires excellent macro-mechanics and excellent micro simultaneously in order to really utilize the race well. Protoss has an easier time with macro (I play protoss, it's a little bit easier for us than it is for terrans, although not much), and zerg has a much easier time with micro (unless you're talking early game zvz). The lower your APM the harder it is to really play terran well, while Protoss and Zerg can do okay with lower APM (although APM helps them quite a bit too). | ||
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