Orb Dismissed from Evil Geniuses Broadcasts - Page 122

On March 10 2012 03:30 Shikyo wrote:

I don't like being called Swedish either but it's nowhere near a slur o_o

On March 10 2012 03:32 karpo wrote:
Man the OP could have been about 1/3 as long with the exact same message. It's drawn out, filled with community pandering, and shits on the CS community.

On March 10 2012 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
Okay now serious response. You fire orb for saying "nigger" in some game over a year ago when not being racist(As in using the word in the same way as one would use fag - you don't mean anything against homosexuality with it, and usually don't even think about the meaning. It's just an insult against that person. What if he calls someone an asshole, or even a retard? Retard is an insult against retarded people in the exact same way. However, the person doesn't intend it that way. It's only directed at the target, no one else. Calling someone a faggot doesn't mean you're undermining the fact they're homosexuals, or even that it has anything to do with homosexuality in the first place. It's just an insult.

Also, I think it's silly to only consider one word that way. Maybe that's your opinion, but this doesn't mean it's correct. There's words like "spick", "chink" and "gook" that might be just as bad or even worse to hear for the people who hear it. Actually, multiple black people I talk to personally don't mind the word "nigger" that much. I mean, it's obviously an insult, but it's not really so much worse as something like "retard", especially when used without racist inteantions, which basically means insulting a person with it without it having anything to do with their race.

There is also the thing that idra's called people niggers in games himself. I can't recall the exact game but I'm 99.95% certain of this. However if I'm incorrect, I apologize. In the case it's true, though, that's an obvious case of hypocrisy. Either way, "faggot" for instance is very commonly used by him, and I really wonder why it is that the word "nigger" gets so much special treatment when compared to words like "retard" and "faggot", which to me are similiar slurs.

And finally there's the case with the size of punishment in comparison to the size of the crime. I personally just cannot fathom how ladder-rage an extremely long time ago is worth such a serious punishment. Some form of punishment is certainly possible if seen fit(Though I personally would just go with a warning and a promise that it'll never happen again), but this to me is going overboard, and not even slightly so.

Why on earth are you attacking me for being considerate to other forum users?

On March 10 2012 03:13 ffdestiny wrote:


What a horribly defended, and weakly structured viewpoint. Catz doesn't ever, ever appreciate being called a "mexican" or any other racial slur/defamatory/derogatory remark related to his ethnicity or heritage--quite evident if you watch his stream. Not only does he get offended by it, he also hates Orb for all the same reasons, and yet we're supposed to believe he thinks it's acceptable because the community is just overreacting. I really see no defense in his statement, or Destiny's or the multitude of other supporters of them. The problem is that Catz is just mirroring what Destiny told him about the word, and the two couldn't ever, ever construct a solid argument around using racial slurs willy nilly like they do. The same old re-hash of logical fallacy is thrown around, again and again--and no one ever consults the real issue and dismisses it the same.

On March 10 2012 02:52 xsevR wrote:


Wow, so intelligently put. The fact that there are people getting offended by these kind of words voids the argument that they aren't offensive--and the defense that you didn't mean the words to be offensive. The position that you don't think African Americans should be offended by the word ni***er means absolutely nothing, and is in contrast with reality.

On March 10 2012 03:38 tofucake wrote:
Okay people let's get something cleared up: homophobia and prejudice against homosexuals are different things. Saying faggot doesn't mean you're homophobic, it means you're prejudiced. A homophobe would not say faggot because it would involve thinking about homosexuals, which is terrifying.

On March 10 2012 03:12 Magic_Mike wrote:


He said "pussies" in that video. Clearly he is a sexist and needs to be fired.

On March 10 2012 03:38 tofucake wrote:
Okay people let's get something cleared up: homophobia and prejudice against homosexuals are different things. Saying faggot doesn't mean you're homophobic, it means you're prejudiced. A homophobe would not say faggot because it would involve thinking about homosexuals, which is terrifying.

On March 10 2012 03:36 Urasim wrote:

Wait, what? You think he is attacking you?

On March 10 2012 03:38 tofucake wrote:
Okay people let's get something cleared up: homophobia and prejudice against homosexuals are different things. Saying faggot doesn't mean you're homophobic, it means you're prejudiced. A homophobe would not say faggot because it would involve thinking about homosexuals, which is terrifying.


like that, you can't be a victim of someone being terrified of you. Spiders are not victims of my arachnophobia, I am the victim of my arachnophobia.

People are regularly victims of self-serving assholes with a prejudice against some particular group of people.