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Noocta
France12578 Posts
And that's like 1 day of work by Blizzard to make that. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
Blizzard implemented chat systems and ways to do basically everything you did in BW. If you really need to have a giant chat box in your face to be social in that game, then you really are the laziest person in the world. It takes two clicks to open a chat window. =/ | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
isn't it nonsensical how people who are ignoring you are allowed to send you chat messages? | ||
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tenklavir
Slovakia116 Posts
On March 06 2012 02:07 Type|NarutO wrote: Did you play Broodwar only in its final stage... where the community was very small and elitist actually? Because I still remember europe battle.net , fun chats in DEU-1. Strategy chat or overall fun in op ToT). Even hanging out on US.West op ClanBy op D.T- or any other channel, it was always social and even though there could be a time where actually no one would write a word, you were never alone. I don't think how they introduced chat-channels into Starcraft or implemented them was the right way to do it, but its certainly better than just a friend list..Why can't I have a small editor/console like chat when I'm in battle.net? Bring back /w /f m etc.. and give me the function to watch replays TOGETHER, PLEASE! What you're describing then is that the "very small and elitist" group that played bwar then wants the same experience now. By definition your small and elitist group is likely exclusionary of lesser players...how is this "social" or does it give other a sense of community on Bnet? You know you can round up your friends from back then, pick a chat name, and have everyone jump in there when they log on Bnet 2.0. I do agree with you about replay-together. That is hasn't happened yet is unconscionable. | ||
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tenklavir
Slovakia116 Posts
On March 06 2012 02:10 Noocta wrote: SC2 need a frontpage with general chat channels. That would do so much. And that's like 1 day of work by Blizzard to make that. Why? They're easily accessible as they are and still almost no one uses them. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
If anything they know the problem and have purposely tried to make it happen. Making another D2 or BW is probably the thing they want to avoid. Unless it's a subscription based game like WoW, what benefit do they have for tons of people playing a game like D2? They lose money just maintaining the servers. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On March 06 2012 02:12 tenklavir wrote: What you're describing then is that the "very small and elitist" group that played bwar then wants the same experience now. By definition your small and elitist group is likely exclusionary of lesser players...how is this "social" or does it give other a sense of community on Bnet? You know you can round up your friends from back then, pick a chat name, and have everyone jump in there when they log on Bnet 2.0. I do agree with you about replay-together. That is hasn't happened yet is unconscionable. Only because you stated that you get annoyed by the chat doesn't mean other people are. I bet thousands of random newbies would even like to just be in a chatchannel sitting around, either talking or reading what others write about the game, not even mentioning there might be some very good players around. Broodwar was small and elitist back then, because it was just insanely old and only a few people still actively played it or were basically playing on iCCup etc. Yet it was still not as cold and lonely as Starcraft 2 is. Nowadays I either have a skype conversation or stream to interact with the people... other than that, yeah... simply sad experience. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On March 06 2012 02:13 tenklavir wrote: Why? They're easily accessible as they are and still almost no one uses them. People are lazy. In Wc3 or BW, you log, the chat channel full of people is right in front of you. In SCé you need to search them = fail. | ||
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Secret05
United States342 Posts
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imyzhang
Canada809 Posts
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AnalThermometer
Vatican City State334 Posts
On March 06 2012 02:08 Bommes wrote: I sometimes just randomly chitchat during the boring first 3-4 minutes (if I'm in a good mood and not annoyed in the first place) to spice it up a little. Most people go for it and chat weird stuff with me, but a lot of people just think I'm cheesing because I chat so much nonsense lol Most of the time I concentrate on playing anyway though, mostly because I can't really come up with new thoughts about everything and anything each game. It's funny how prickly many people are when it comes to chatting in game, they filter everything as some kind of insult. Bnet isolation has only served to make the game feel super serial & hostile. | ||
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Alacast
United States205 Posts
I honestly think Starcraft suffers from the fact that it's simply difficult to learn, and while its predecessor was able to single-handedly capture a majority of the gaming community, it also came at a time when "social" games eg: easy shit that requires more time than effort (read World of Warcraft) didn't yet exist. Gamers were a small sect of "basement dwelling" nerds who were smart and dedicated to their passion. Those people still exist and they continue to dedicate time and effort into learning and improving their skills, but they are overshadowed by a larger community of social games and gamers. My entire last paragraphs was opinion and anecdotal, so back to reality. Starcraft lacks the tools to teach people even the basics of playing the game. Yes, it teaches people how to make and control units and buildings, but there is absolutely no higher-level information available within the game to help people. All of my friends are afraid to even try to learn it because they don't know where to start-that's why people don't play. It's hard and it takes a significant amount of effort to even find a guide on what the hell you're supposed to be doing. Sure chat channels might help in this aspect, but how much constructive criticism can you expect from a public chat channel that isn't flippant or disrespectful? I'm rambling, but my point is that the learning curve is steep and there is no method INSIDE THE GAME to actually figure out how to play. Campaign is terrible and the challenges are a joke (except for opening gambit, which is alright but really lacks the information on how you should do things and why). | ||
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Leetley
1796 Posts
On March 06 2012 01:58 chip789 wrote: Sc: BW you log in BOOM giant chat box full of people. Sc2 you log in BOOM empty page of nothing.  | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
That was my most played games of all times, and 50 % of the playtime I had with the game was just chatting with clan members. Oh the good times... | ||
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AeonStrife
United States918 Posts
I do have friends to play with but even with the current friends I play with, there is no system to somehow make a strong interaction with other people and keep it consistent. We're like robots...find match, lose/win, find match, lose/win, alittle trolling in between, and thats about it. | ||
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
(yes custom game section sucks and we need clan support) | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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probablytrolling
United States5 Posts
stuff that still sucks: There is no way to find out if a channel exists other than being told about it or guessing. Chat channels still cannot be "official" in the sense that someone can own and moderate a channel. There is still an 100 person limit to channels. No group replay. | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On March 06 2012 02:22 DwmC_Foefen wrote: This plus the fact that the custom games section sucks balls, terrible terrible balls. This. I hate the "popularity" system since it means a bunch of really good games are ignored. | ||
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