EPTLadder flaws when race switching - Page 5
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Would be nice to have separate ladders for each race though, but I can't see it happening. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:40 OrangeSoda wrote: Solution: stop caring about your ladder rank. People dont play starcraft enough as it is, people having 4 different ladder accounts is not going to help this. See thats not the main problem i don't care about my ladder rank too much i'm (low-Mid Master) Then i lose games when i Off-race until im about low-diamond or so. Its very inconvenient though because you have to get stomped for about 30-40 games straight until you are playing players on the Ladder that you can evenly face whilst playing off-race. That;s the problem. It's not even about rank its about getting ownd by players who are = level to your main race; but when you're offracing you get owned by them; Until you get demoted way down! So if you wanna switch back between your main race and off-race its kind-of inconvenient and takes time to play players on your level again between your main and off-race. | ||
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Entteri
Finland108 Posts
I didn't change race, but I didn't play last season and I opened this season with 4-25 or so. Since I was about to fall out of masters anyway I just went and dropped 30 more. Finally got demoted to diamond and now playing against high plat people. I'm happy to train my mechanics and builds when I win most of the time, because losing most of the time just drains all the fun and entertainment out of the game. It's also fairly easy to predict how low you want to drop as long as you have any clue about your level for the new race. All you need to do is check which league/rank most of your enemies come from. Don't make the mistake of looking at your own league/rank because you won get demoted instantly even if your mmr gets really low. | ||
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Ireniicus
United Kingdom374 Posts
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Nabes
Canada1800 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:57 XRaDiiX wrote: See thats not the main problem i don't care about my ladder rank too much i'm (low-Mid Master) Then i lose games when i Off-race until im about low-diamond or so. Its very inconvenient though because you have to get stomped for about 30-40 games straight until you are playing players on the Ladder that you can evenly face whilst playing off-race. That;s the problem. It's not even about rank its about getting ownd by players who are = level to your main race; but when you're offracing you get owned by them; Until you get demoted way down! So if you wanna switch back between your main race and off-race its kind-of inconvenient and takes time to play players on your level again between your main and off-race. take those 30-40 games of getting stomped to learn the race then? why are you so hellbent on winning | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:03 OrangeSoda wrote: take those 30-40 games of getting stomped to learn the race then? why are you so hellbent on winning Wow you totally missed the point of what i was saying i don't give a crap about my rank. I said the inconvenience of having to play 30-40 games to rank/up and down to start playing players that are your skill level again between main/off race. Whenever you want to switch races this is extremely inconvenient and not good practice when you are playing against lower /higer calibre players depending on whether your main/offracing. | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
There was a thread created already which mentioned this concept, although I couldn't find it =\ | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
Simple solution- reset the ladder completely including mmr (just like wc3 used to do it) | ||
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
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Lysergic
United States355 Posts
Laddering isn't the best way to learn a new race, even if you drop your MMR down. You'll be much better off if you focus on learning proper mechanics, basic opening build orders, and repeating until you can macro well. YABOT is useful to work on opening build orders and developing muscle memory for hotkeys. Find practice partners slightly above your skill level and play customs with them. Day9 #360 Mental Checklist: Exercises Part 1 | ||
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envisioN .
United States552 Posts
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yellowguan
43 Posts
StarCraft II is first and foremost, a multiplayer game and one shouldn't have to buy it three times to get everything out of it. Lets think this analogically, League of Legends has players already spending more than 100s to play a different variety of champions and heroes, they dont have to but rather build up IP through grinding for those heroes or pay money for the new champion. If Starcraft 2 players want to switch a race, they should either grind up their experiance in a race or pay money for the new champion. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9107 Posts
I can't blame Blizzard since they make money from people buying additional accounts for: 1) Having separate ladder accounts/laddering race accounts, and 2) Playing on different servers However, it still makes sc2 a sub-par experience and makes me angry and sad. I would like to try laddering as z, but should'nt have to intentionally forever (and lose the ability to practice my main race at my playing level as well). And while I could try playing I'd probably go 0-50 or so which is a bit rough. | ||
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Beakyboo
United States485 Posts
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Or30
Canada4 Posts
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
I kid, I kid. Seriously though, the problem is that it would make the ladder super diluted. Yeah sure it doesn't mean much anyway, but have you seen the team leagues? That's some serious irrelevant bullshit going on over there. For those people who stick to one race, this would make it a lot harder to figure out where they stand. Similarly, the system relies on more games to become more accurate. How would it have to account for this? Plus, some things are fine to be hard. Mastering all 3 races is one of those. So you'll lose a few games. Not a big deal. | ||
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Neino
Norway295 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:40 OrangeSoda wrote: Solution: stop caring about your ladder rank. People dont play starcraft enough as it is, people having 4 different ladder accounts is not going to help this. How is that even remotely a solution? "Not caring" won't get you matched against equally skilled players any faster when you switch. And if I don't play a single race only for a month at a time, I might as well be smurfing, because alternating regularly just means I'm tanking my MMR with my offrace and then getting cheap wins against lesser skilled players as my main. | ||
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ETisME
12702 Posts
On February 27 2012 07:48 FindMuck wrote: Just imagine how fun it would be to say I wanan play X race today. and then ur against silver opponents right away. Then you go, i wanna play Y race now , i miss you main race T___T then ur back to masters damn yea, that would be my dream | ||
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