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On February 27 2012 11:04 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 11:03 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 27 2012 10:57 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 27 2012 10:40 OrangeSoda wrote:
Solution: stop caring about your ladder rank. People dont play starcraft enough as it is, people having 4 different ladder accounts is not going to help this. See thats not the main problem i don't care about my ladder rank too much i'm (low-Mid Master) Then i lose games when i Off-race until im about low-diamond or so. Its very inconvenient though because you have to get stomped for about 30-40 games straight until you are playing players on the Ladder that you can evenly face whilst playing off-race. That;s the problem. It's not even about rank its about getting ownd by players who are = level to your main race; but when you're offracing you get owned by them; Until you get demoted way down! So if you wanna switch back between your main race and off-race its kind-of inconvenient and takes time to play players on your level again between your main and off-race. take those 30-40 games of getting stomped to learn the race then? why are you so hellbent on winning Wow you totally missed the point of what i was saying i don't give a crap about my rank. I said the inconvenience of having to play 30-40 games to rank/up and down to start playing players that are your skill level again between main/off race. Whenever you want to switch races this is extremely inconvenient and not good practice when you are playing against lower /higer calibre players depending on whether your main/offracing.
You should be learning stuff during those 30-40 games you're getting stomped. I'd rather get stomped 30-40 games in a row by playing better people then win half my games by playing noob people. You learn a hell of a lot more.
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In my experience the system places you where you belong fairly quickly (I tried new races with each new season).
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On February 27 2012 15:38 Neino wrote:
Get a second account
You realize how absurd this is when in previous Blizzard games you could simply make a new account for free. Of course that's out for a variety of reasons, but they could have at least had separate mmr for all races. But this is an old argument and I somehow doubt Blizzard will ever deal with this.
As to those arguing that you should only play against tough people and suck up those 30-40 losses, well sure. But there's something to be said for playing against people your own skill when you off-race. It makes the whole affair much simpler and less of a mental commitment that you're going to have to tank your main for awhile. (Also Day9 says there's value in playing worse players for practicing new builds, so then it must be true  )
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Personally I don't care because after so much trepidation that we all seem to experience I after so many games and so much time stopped giving a fuck about my ladder score so I'll play any race it just doesn't matter.
However it would be a really smart move for blizzard to allow separate "accounts" or whatever, ladder ranking mmr for each race. Alot more people would be happy and actually play the game. Instead of being scared. They could just have fun instead of worrying about their ladder score. And since more people are actually playing the game as a result, everyone wins.
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Exactly! I don't see a clear downside to my suggestions and it would improve the game for many people.
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On February 27 2012 06:09 Balgrog wrote:
Well out of everything B.Net needs to fix, this is one of the last things I am worried about! I do wish this would happen though, luckily I have a few friends who only play 2v2's and rarely, so I can use there accounts, I have my main as toss, one as gold zerg and one as gold terran, so I can bounce around.
This pretty much what people do nowadays, including myself.
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Add this to the list of 30 other obviously useful and extremely easy to add things that should have been included in battle.net 2.0 since the very start but which Blizzard refuses to add for some nebulous reason.
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Or maybe we can just create infinite accounts on all servers like you can with every game that is released before ~05.
I agree though, I quit myself from masters to bronze on my 2nd account just because I wanted to play zerg (I never did before) and kinda start from the buttom so I could really expirement around without having to worry about my opponnent having any chance of killing me. Would have been a lot easier if I could have just clicked create new account.
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I want to add that the whole 30-40 game argument of getting stomped isn't really fair to the casuals. There are plenty of people would love to play other races but only play 30-40 games a season. I play two races constantly so I was put into a situation where I bought a separate account. Today I woke up and decided that I wanted to play Zerg and the last thing I would want to do is to play a bunch of games so that I can drop my MMR to the correct spot since I can wake up tomorrow and feel like playing Toss.
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On February 29 2012 04:45 Mutown wrote:
Exactly! I don't see a clear downside to my suggestions and it would improve the game for many people.
Less money for blizzard.
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On February 29 2012 05:06 antilyon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 04:45 Mutown wrote:
Exactly! I don't see a clear downside to my suggestions and it would improve the game for many people. Less money for blizzard.
I agree and I think that Blizzard should implement a feature where people can buy a new ladder account. It will reduce the amount of smurfs since there is a price on it and it will bring in more revenue for them since more people are likely to purchase the new account over a whole new game.
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This is why you should have 3 different 1v1 "teams", (or 4 if you want a Random one as well) 1 for each race, each in different divisions, and possibly leagues; different MMR at least.
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...why was the user warned for his post? This is an incredibly legitimate complaint that should be discussed.
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^^ because the title was in all caps before a mod changed it, ie, read the second post
Most all of these suggestions have a serious consequence for allowing heavy smurfing to get into SC2. Blizzard basically went through the whole ladder system trying to remove ways that you could fool it into letting you stomp on players way below your skill level. You can't get around it without getting another account or actually tanking your MMR, which are both purposefully serious barriers, I'd imagine.
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A fair argument. You'd think Blizzard would take pride in the complexity of their game, however, and acknowledge the fact that in order to reach a very high level with one race (or do it quickly at least) one must sacrifice skill with the other races, and therefore give players the ability to play in a different skill bracket depending on the race they choose.
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On February 27 2012 05:49 Mutown wrote:
The ladder is essential for a competitive multiplayer game like StarCraft II.
Ahhhhh to bad it sucks? lol Blizzard why your BNet 0.2 so fail?
Remove devisions and show my bloody looses.
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On February 27 2012 05:49 Mutown wrote:
While it may line Blizzard's coffers, it's logically indefensible and clearly not a realistic solution.
Sigh...This. Blizzard doesn't give two shits past anything that wont make them money. The only reason they balance the game is to keep interest up. If they didn't balance it would just die out. Blizzard UI is terrible, but people are still gonna buy it. The tech support is terrible, but people still buy it. Ladder anxiety is rampant, but people still buy it. It pains me to see people demand things from Blizzard as if they have a commitment to the players, which they dont. If we paid monthly for the game, then they would have a commitment to us to improve their product.
tl;dr Blizzard doesn't care about anything besides their money. Deal with it and stop whining/requesting for more.
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I'd like to think Blizzard cares about the future of their franchise and the satisfaction of their customers. I am, after all, more likely to buy future Blizzard products if they are responsive to the community.
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only on TL do the mods warn people for voicing their opinion... GG
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