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Please DISCUSS the changes and the impact they will have on gameplay. Straight up whining and bitching will get you a ban, no exceptions. | ||
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pepsimaxibon
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JJH777
United States4376 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:54 bucckevin wrote: or get cleaned up by corrupts, which happens to be better than vikings. Corruptors are absolutely terrible vs Vikings. If you lose to corruptor/broodlord by itself Zerg was either super far ahead or you started making vikings way too late. Infestors are required. | ||
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esaul17
Canada547 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:53 Asturas wrote: Please Blizzard don't forget to nerf Terran more and every time. Oh wait this is what Blizzard does... No comment. This is no longer funny. User was temp banned for this post. Now you feel the pain of Protoss. | ||
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom301 Posts
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HellionDrop
281 Posts
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tubs
764 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
SO FUNNY because it can't even one-shot a Zergling or workers... HAHA | ||
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:55 Shantastic wrote: Corruptors are NOT more powerful than vikings. They are 1.5x as expensive, and cannot beat Vikings in large, equal numbers w/o either Corruption or Fungal, which requires additional APM (a scarce asset in a late-game engagement) Wrong. Corruptors > Vikings | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16039 Posts
Protoss haven't been nerfed since the WG change. I really don't understand where this justification comes from. | ||
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JJH777
United States4376 Posts
You know Corruptors are 150/100 minerals/gas right? They are no where near as good as vikings it is only with fungal mixed in that they can fight them. | ||
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:59 Vindicare605 wrote: Protoss haven't been nerfed since the WG change. I really don't understand where this justification comes from. People don't forget... People just don't forget... WG change NEVER FORGET! <3 | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16039 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:59 trinxified wrote: Snipe should be 25 dmg + 25 to LIGHT instead of just psionic. That way, units like Marines, Zealots, Mutalisks, Hydras etc. still weak to it. Also a better idea than what Blizzard is proposing. Honestly, the +25 damage to Psionic is meaningless. I know it's meant to be like a compensation in the way that Siege Tank damage works vs armored but there honestly are so few situations where Sniping something Psionic is better than simply EMPing it that the +damage to psionic is just pointless. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
good changes :D | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On February 11 2012 10:01 Vindicare605 wrote: Also a better idea than what Blizzard is proposing. Honestly, the +25 damage to Psionic is meaningless. I know it's meant to be like a compensation in the way that Siege Tank damage works vs armored but there honestly are so few situations where Sniping something Psionic is better than simply EMPing it that the +damage to psionic is just pointless. here, I edited post: Snipe should be 25 dmg + 25 to LIGHT instead of just psionic. That way, units like Marines, Zealots, Mutalisks, Hydras etc. still weak to it. SO FUNNY because it can't even one-shot a Zergling or workers... HAHA | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:14 KawaiiRice wrote: Or the zerg could neural parasite the viking and fly it back into you. o,o The possibilities are endless! | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:46 Mycl wrote: I actually like Blizzards change to gold bases more than GOM's change. I like the dynamic of gold bases when they are placed in vulnerable positions and when a player invests in taking one it changes up the pace of the game. Snipe change is pretty massive but I just want to see more Ultra/Broodlord tech switches and I want the Terran to actually change up their composition in response. As a primarily Zerg fan even I started to bang my head on my keyboard every time a PvZ turned into a muta base race and I just want it out of the game as quick as possible The problem with wanting terrans (and protoss as well) to completely change their unit compositions when a zerg does it is a bit silly when its a known fact that zerg can switch between techs so much easier than the other races. Thats like me as terran saying "I want to have the ability to keep a zerg on equal bases" because I somehow consider that to be a more balanced game and simply choose to ignore the racial benefit I get from mules. Luckily for protoss blink stalkers are pretty effective at countering both ultralisks and BLs, and they can use chrono or warp-ins to quickly get out any counter units they need. Terran however is now stuck with the marine as their best option for a unit that can counter both lategame units, and while we all know marines are really good they are also very vulnerable to many things a lategame zerg can throw at you. I do think that ghosts alone countering all T3 is a bit much, but turning them useless against anything but casters leaves the terrans with very little options. There should be a more reasonable middle ground solution to be found here. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
hehe both are right. upgrades play a huge role which unit is stronger. But the viking is stronger if it has a good position, while the corrupters a click i stronger. So at the end both units deliver great battles against each other x3. | ||
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bucckevin
858 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:56 JJH777 wrote: Corruptors are absolutely terrible vs Vikings. If you lose to corruptor/broodlord by itself Zerg was either super far ahead or you started making vikings way too late. Infestors are required. I meant in a unit composition. No competent zerg is going to mass corruptors just to counter vikings, corruptors still beat vikings but mutas are more effective. They make corruptors, morph some to broods, have infestors and spam fungal, corruption. in that case fungal along with corruptor support own vikings, hard. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
I really like that they're bringing back APM, I just wish they would turn minutes back into real minutes. | ||
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Shantastic
United States435 Posts
Care to back that up at all? Don't worry, I'll back up my statements with fact so that you don't have to  Each viking does 20 damage per hit, while each corruptor does 14 damage per hit. This means that you need around 1.12 vikings for each corruptors. Considering that vikings cost 150/75 to the corruptor's 150/100, and that build times are around the same as long as you have two reactored starports, that sounds pretty much in favor of the viking there.. | ||
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