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We bitched and moaned about this back in the days of vanilla Starcraft, we continued to bitch and moan about it through BW (although a large portion of us had been playing on Aus-1, a private server based out of Aus).... then we continued to bitch and moan through War3.... and WoW.... and now the cycle continues in SC2!!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but unless there's good money to be made out of such a move, they wont bother; unfortunately it's pretty much been shown that even without a locally based server, Australasian players will continue to buy and play Blizzard products. We are a small, and relatively powerless market, so when Blizzard's only options are cost ineffective, they'll save themselves the set up and maintenance costs.
I don't know if the "Telstra would only give us a shitty deal" excuse is still valid; it's been around for 12+ years now.
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I would just like to interject with a related rant.
GIMME THE NBN I NEED IT NOW GIVE ME FIBRE OPTIC CMON I HAVE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH AUSTRALIAN INTERNET.
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'Whitewolfx': You sir need to stop writing rubbish.
It's pretty clear that having to deal with 180ms as the 'best case scenario' is pretty unsatisfactory in this day and age. I don't know why you're contesting this. It's actually a massive joke that a loyal fan/consumer base such as Australia gets shafted so badly by Blizzard. Other large scale companies are doing it for their games, just look at BioWare for SWTOR, as of March they're bringing Australian based servers.. yet Blizzard continues to ignore many thousands of customers.
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I play on US and SEA and i have no lag on either,
Its weird hearing the many people who have lag issues on these servers. I didn't know our internet was that bad...
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My internet has good days and bad days for SC2. On the bad days i'm lucky if i can even log on and play a game against the AI. Probably about 1/4 of days I try play SC2 it doesn't really work out for me.
And for those from outside wondering, I've heard recently from someone in the business that Telstra owns about 95% (as I recall) of all the Internet cables in Australia, and 99% of the cables that go from data centres directly to people's homes.
So even though other internet providers do exist, Telstra is still running the show, and doesn't really need to improve to stay atop of the market.
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On February 03 2012 19:04 run.at.me wrote:
I play on US and SEA and i have no lag on either,
Its weird hearing the many people who have lag issues on these servers. I didn't know our internet was that bad...
connection u got then?
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If anything SEA will be merged with another server, not divided into more.
As for wow, that game is on the way to a well deserved death anyways..
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Just moved to Sydney from NZ for uni and Australian internet feels like a gift from the gods ^^. No more 40 gig caps at outrageous prices.
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Quite incredible that in a such developed country such a monopoly was allowed to exist.
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thanks for letting me know that telstra are the greedy titans who i need to point my pitchfork at :D
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On February 03 2012 06:17 cristo1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 01:29 Plexa wrote:
If Australia is unwilling, just put the server in NZ. Problem solved. well then they have to go their own monoply telecom which is even worse or the telstra subsidary.......
10 years ago yeah, not as bad anymore. I think my internet connection would best most aussie ones.
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On February 03 2012 18:39 snotboogie wrote:
I would just like to interject with a related rant.
GIMME THE NBN I NEED IT NOW GIVE ME FIBRE OPTIC CMON I HAVE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH AUSTRALIAN INTERNET.
one of my mates is in a new area that has the fibre optic stuff installed - he is on 90down ~20up
meanwhile 15mins south i have ~5down ~1up
:D
(the fun part is that he is locked on a 2year contract with telstra as a result)
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On February 03 2012 19:31 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 06:17 cristo1122 wrote:On February 03 2012 01:29 Plexa wrote:
If Australia is unwilling, just put the server in NZ. Problem solved. well then they have to go their own monoply telecom which is even worse or the telstra subsidary....... 10 years ago yeah, not as bad anymore. I think my internet connection would best most aussie ones.
Agreed, Telecom is no where near what Tesltra is here in Aus. That said, NZ connections (from what I understand) are on an even lower level than some of ours - or was it that your plans are worse than ours? I can't remember.
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Unfortunately, you'll probably have to raise holy heck with Telstra and/or your "local" provider to deal with routing issues... even with NBN, if your continental pipe goes the wrong direction (ie, you get bounced off North America to get to Singapore) you'll still have latency issues. Also, if Blizzard were able to rouse itself against Telstra, pressure from both sides can get results. (This has worked for CCP, a much smaller game company, when they have routing issues with connection to their (one) server. Then again, CCP also has a great deal of money tied into leased lines from major backbone providers and their network infrastructure (while smaller) is insane. But then they only have one server for the entire MMO.)
I don't see why the b.net servers can't just act as matchmaking systems - make it more peer-to-peer style. Don't give us LAN, fine... give us P2P play but requiring B.net to act as matchmaker and let match results be reported back in the background. Forcing all of the traffic for games through a small set of chokepoints is getting silly.
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On February 02 2012 20:47 Cascade wrote:So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot. 
If you're planning on joining local events, get a SEA/NA account.
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On February 02 2012 20:08 snotboogie wrote:
It's not going to happen and the reason is Telstra. They have the power to demand whatever they want because they are the monopoly.
This is a clear cut case of why monopolies suck. Hopefully the NBN solves things.
I completely agree.
In fact, the reason why internet in Australia is so behind the rest of the world is Telstra.
Telstra is more evil than the devil. And we need the NBN to fix this.
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The SEA server is already small as it is. You want blizz to make an Australia only server?? Sure you'll get good ping, but also 30 min ladder queue times lol. What's the point??
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