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snexwang
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 04:50:54
February 04 2012 04:36 GMT
#61
It's never going to happen, but why would you want it to? Take the Australian Counter-Strike scene as an example: light years behind everyone else right up until the rest of the world started to lose interest in the game.

Regardless of how good it would be for SEA/Australian-based tournaments, why would you want to segregate the community when our player pool isn't large enough to nuture any sort of significant improvement?
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 04 2012 04:52 GMT
#62
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?

Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.

BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.


Rillanon.au
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
February 04 2012 04:59 GMT
#63
On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?

Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.

BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.



Isn't it because Telstra owns most/all of the cables? All the other companies just 'rent' them from Telstra AFAIK
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
February 04 2012 05:10 GMT
#64
On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?

Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.

BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.




Those companies still have to use Telstra infrastructure most of the time. Telstra has a monopoly there is no way around their bandwidth costs
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 04 2012 07:51 GMT
#65
On February 04 2012 13:59 Ryder. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?

Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.

BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.



Isn't it because Telstra owns most/all of the cables? All the other companies just 'rent' them from Telstra AFAIK


Telstra doesn't own everything. They are required by law to distribute to other ISPs at wholesale costs.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 04 2012 07:54 GMT
#66
On February 04 2012 14:10 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?

Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.

BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.




Those companies still have to use Telstra infrastructure most of the time. Telstra has a monopoly there is no way around their bandwidth costs


Telstra has a monopoly but only for the copper lines. B.Net and game server are web applications... how does Telstra have any leverage over this? It's like the water companies saying to a restaurant that they can't use the water to wash dishes because they own the pipes going into the restaurant.
Rillanon.au
DeckstreaM
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia5 Posts
February 04 2012 08:02 GMT
#67
face it, in australia we have third world internet compared to the major economic powers as we're supposedly to be part of. the governance of certain commodities such as electricity, water, public transport, communications are ALL subpar as they should be as a lot of australian companies have contributed worldwide with our technologies, e.g. octopus card in hk, but we fail to deliver on our own turf.

tl;dr australian governance (includes, governments, telecommunications, power, water etc.) = retards
There is nothing good or bad, only thinking makes it so.
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
February 04 2012 08:02 GMT
#68
If the next Government scraps the NBN, you can say goodbye to the future of our economy.

NBN is our future, as mining isn't always going to be there.
Lifes too short to be small.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 04 2012 08:06 GMT
#69
On February 04 2012 17:02 DeckstreaM wrote:
face it, in australia we have third world internet compared to the major economic powers as we're supposedly to be part of. the governance of certain commodities such as electricity, water, public transport, communications are ALL subpar as they should be as a lot of australian companies have contributed worldwide with our technologies, e.g. octopus card in hk, but we fail to deliver on our own turf.

tl;dr australian governance (includes, governments, telecommunications, power, water etc.) = retards


The public transport minister in my state should go to jail for his mishandling. Can't believe they wasted 1 billion on something so simple.

Rillanon.au
Sanchonator
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia490 Posts
February 04 2012 08:07 GMT
#70
On February 04 2012 17:02 DeckstreaM wrote:
face it, in australia we have third world internet compared to the major economic powers as we're supposedly to be part of. the governance of certain commodities such as electricity, water, public transport, communications are ALL subpar as they should be as a lot of australian companies have contributed worldwide with our technologies, e.g. octopus card in hk, but we fail to deliver on our own turf.

tl;dr australian governance (includes, governments, telecommunications, power, water etc.) = retards


NBN will fix the net problems assuming it continues as is and isnt scrapped or some stupid shit



@iinet/internode server thing : when blizzard were talking about an australian server with telstra and all that crap internode actually offered to host it iirc, no idea what happened with that but im fairly sure it was an option
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
February 04 2012 11:49 GMT
#71
On February 04 2012 16:51 haduken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 13:59 Ryder. wrote:
On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?

Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.

BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.



Isn't it because Telstra owns most/all of the cables? All the other companies just 'rent' them from Telstra AFAIK


Telstra doesn't own everything. They are required by law to distribute to other ISPs at wholesale costs.

Telstra owns all the cables, so they can charge other ISPs ridiculous prices.

http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=39376 wrote:
We have received some initial prices on hosting boxes in Australia:

Our boxes on average use 4,000-5,000 GB of data transfer a month, we get these boxes for roughly $200 USD each in EU/USA

Provider 1: $1250 per month for hardware, $11,250.00 per month for bandwidth per box, box would support 110 concurrent users

Provider 2: $1100 per month for hardware, $22,500 per month for bandwidth per box, would support about 220 concurrent users.

We have also made inquiries at Internode and are awaiting a quote back from them (it was requested last week Tuesday).

So as you can see, the economics of hosting boxes in AU is just not there currently.


http://games.on.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=252&t=171568&sid=c5613775800ba2393dacdd2fc0f246b3
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 12:00:10
February 04 2012 11:59 GMT
#72
iirc there was an article that said the NBN will take like a decade or two to be implemented though (unsure how true, though it's not like everyone will have it super soon, big country and all), so we may not see any change any time soon.

For the record I live just north of Sydney (central coast), Telstra ISP with 130 ping to sea and 200-250 to NA.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 04 2012 13:12 GMT
#73
On February 04 2012 20:49 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 16:51 haduken wrote:
On February 04 2012 13:59 Ryder. wrote:
On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?

Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.

BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.



Isn't it because Telstra owns most/all of the cables? All the other companies just 'rent' them from Telstra AFAIK


Telstra doesn't own everything. They are required by law to distribute to other ISPs at wholesale costs.

Telstra owns all the cables, so they can charge other ISPs ridiculous prices.

Show nested quote +
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=39376 wrote:
We have received some initial prices on hosting boxes in Australia:

Our boxes on average use 4,000-5,000 GB of data transfer a month, we get these boxes for roughly $200 USD each in EU/USA

Provider 1: $1250 per month for hardware, $11,250.00 per month for bandwidth per box, box would support 110 concurrent users

Provider 2: $1100 per month for hardware, $22,500 per month for bandwidth per box, would support about 220 concurrent users.

We have also made inquiries at Internode and are awaiting a quote back from them (it was requested last week Tuesday).

So as you can see, the economics of hosting boxes in AU is just not there currently.


http://games.on.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=252&t=171568&sid=c5613775800ba2393dacdd2fc0f246b3


Dear lord, that can't be market pricing.
Rillanon.au
Nomad123
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
95 Posts
February 04 2012 15:16 GMT
#74
maybe they should merge SEA with the KR/TW server since nobody (comparatively) plays on SEA.

then australians play on NA.

problem solved?
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
February 04 2012 15:28 GMT
#75
i play on NA, queues for games are faster and i don't notice any ping difference.
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