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For some time there has been a large amount of disappointment among australian residents as we have been unable to play on a local server and have to deal with annoying amounts of lag which can manifest itself at random intervals. It has been a source of confusion as why blizzard has not done this or even setup a WOW server (from which i understand the starcraft servers are also provided). Some time ago blizzard announced that they would be bringing a server to australia only to bring out a server for australian & New Zealanders based on the US west coast. At the time many people were quite annoyed as they had been told one thing and delivered another.
Today I was speaking to a someone who had knowledge of dealings between telstra (monoply telecom providor) and blizzard, who told me that the reason why the server didnt go through was that telstra demanded a cut of world of warcraft revenue (i.e. a certain percentage of each subscripition) + industry standard charges for services rendered blizzard declined to accept as this is a very bad deal for them especially since australians and new zealenders can play on the american servers (even though at times it can be annoying and or unplayable at times). I have also been told that the same terms were offered to sony and microsoft who decided to decline.
The purpose of this thread is whether anyone knows any more details of this as though i have full confidence in the source of the information I would like to see if anyone has a supporting OR conflicting account of what i have outlined.
(btw if this should of been in blogs sorry)
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It's not going to happen and the reason is Telstra. They have the power to demand whatever they want because they are the monopoly.
This is a clear cut case of why monopolies suck. Hopefully the NBN solves things.
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australian government can't do anything themselves.... cannot count on them to do anything.
i do wish a deal would go through between telstra and blizzard though T.T
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WoW thread. go post on a WoW site please, this has nothing to do with sc2. in sc2, we have a SEA server that is based in SEA -
mods close this thread plz >.>
User was warned for this post
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the SEA server is MUUUUUUUUUUCH better ping than NA for WA, but about the same for the eastern states >_<
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On February 02 2012 20:28 WhiteWolfx wrote:
WoW thread. go post on a WoW site please, this has nothing to do with sc2. in sc2, we have a SEA server that is based in SEA -
mods close this thread plz >.>
Are you kidding me? Are you really saying that playing with 150ms at best is optimal? Ultimately Australians have been crying to Blizzard for local servers for years and they've never given a damn. Depending on the ISP, you get a better connection to KR than you do SEA, every progamer that's gone to Korea has said KR -> SEA is way lower latency than Aus -> SEA.
This has everything to do with SC2...delay on forcefields is the most horrible feeling of all time
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you kidding me ? 150ms is god like in Australia! anything below 220 is like unheard of because this country is in the stone age of internet. don't you dare complain about 150ms!!
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SEA server is based in Singapore, with some large providers such as Optus routing the traffic through US before Singapore. So sadly those on Optus and others in Aus can pretty much count out playing SC2 at all unless they are willing to play with it fluctuating between 200-350ms ping. While ping to NA and KR is around 150ms making this a more viable (although not ideal) option.
I agree with the OP that an Australian server is the best option to grow as a community, however this is unlikely at this stage of SC2's life cycle. I mean they haven't even implemented LAN or shared vision replays and I'm sure that would end up higher in priority in terms of catering the SC2 community as a whole.
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This is epic lolz form an SC2 prospective (NFI how many AUS/NZ wow subscriber there are). No way in hell Blizzard is going to subdivide the least played server in SC2.
We might get merged with someone else, Korea is the only other server in the region. But we wont be getting another server in the SEA region.
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ok guys, stop whinging, they gave us a sea server, and what ended up happening? only a tiny amount of users actually use the server, check out the SEA server usage compared to ANY OTHER server, its pathetic, the only reason bliz was nice enough to give us a server (based in singapore) is because we kept complaining about not having a server, and then they finally give SEA a server and barely anyone plays on it... GO FIGURE.
if youre with a provider that routes traffic stupidly to america first and then to singapore, then sure, youll get retarded ping, figure out a way to fix it by some sort of tunnel service to singapore or any other way you can think of getting lower ping, but for those of us who arnt idiotic and didnt go with optus, who have one of the worst valued internet plans in the country. 2nd only to telstra. we're fine. because we went with one of the better ISP's
tldr : blizz gave SEA a server. some AUS ISP's are bad and route traffic poorly. SEA server grossly underused.
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So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot. 
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On February 02 2012 20:47 Cascade wrote:So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot.
Depending on where you are it doesn't matter a lot. With good enough internet the the CBD in melbourne the lag is very minimal, my brother recently moved there and he has excellent latency to both SEA and NA.
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The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there?
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On February 02 2012 21:14 MHT wrote:
The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there?
we do.. they are called telstra
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I get worse ping to SEA than to US :\
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On February 02 2012 20:50 Tazerenix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 20:47 Cascade wrote:So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot. Depending on where you are it doesn't matter a lot. With good enough internet the the CBD in melbourne the lag is very minimal, my brother recently moved there and he has excellent latency to both SEA and NA.
sydney and melbourne are mostly fine for ping (compared to the rest of aus) something like 150ish ping to NA and about the same to sea (assuming not with optus)
for WA/SA/others id assume, the ping to SEA is about 100ms whereas the ping to NA is generally around 250
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ok, thanks Tazer and Sancho. 
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Either LAN, or Australian server.
180 ping to NA server and 220 to SEA server is STUPID.
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On February 02 2012 21:18 Sanchonator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 21:14 MHT wrote:
The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there? we do.. they are called telstra
This sounds interesting. What's the problem with them ?
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On February 02 2012 21:37 ArcticRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 21:18 Sanchonator wrote:On February 02 2012 21:14 MHT wrote:
The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there? we do.. they are called telstra This sounds interesting. What's the problem with them ?
they own everything 
all other ISPs operate on telstra's lines etc (dont know all the details, basically telstra runs australia's internet)
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