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For some time there has been a large amount of disappointment among australian residents as we have been unable to play on a local server and have to deal with annoying amounts of lag which can manifest itself at random intervals. It has been a source of confusion as why blizzard has not done this or even setup a WOW server (from which i understand the starcraft servers are also provided). Some time ago blizzard announced that they would be bringing a server to australia only to bring out a server for australian & New Zealanders based on the US west coast. At the time many people were quite annoyed as they had been told one thing and delivered another.
Today I was speaking to a someone who had knowledge of dealings between telstra (monoply telecom providor) and blizzard, who told me that the reason why the server didnt go through was that telstra demanded a cut of world of warcraft revenue (i.e. a certain percentage of each subscripition) + industry standard charges for services rendered blizzard declined to accept as this is a very bad deal for them especially since australians and new zealenders can play on the american servers (even though at times it can be annoying and or unplayable at times). I have also been told that the same terms were offered to sony and microsoft who decided to decline.
The purpose of this thread is whether anyone knows any more details of this as though i have full confidence in the source of the information I would like to see if anyone has a supporting OR conflicting account of what i have outlined.
(btw if this should of been in blogs sorry)
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It's not going to happen and the reason is Telstra. They have the power to demand whatever they want because they are the monopoly.
This is a clear cut case of why monopolies suck. Hopefully the NBN solves things.
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australian government can't do anything themselves.... cannot count on them to do anything.
i do wish a deal would go through between telstra and blizzard though T.T
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WoW thread. go post on a WoW site please, this has nothing to do with sc2. in sc2, we have a SEA server that is based in SEA -
mods close this thread plz >.>
User was warned for this post
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the SEA server is MUUUUUUUUUUCH better ping than NA for WA, but about the same for the eastern states >_<
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On February 02 2012 20:28 WhiteWolfx wrote:
WoW thread. go post on a WoW site please, this has nothing to do with sc2. in sc2, we have a SEA server that is based in SEA -
mods close this thread plz >.>
Are you kidding me? Are you really saying that playing with 150ms at best is optimal? Ultimately Australians have been crying to Blizzard for local servers for years and they've never given a damn. Depending on the ISP, you get a better connection to KR than you do SEA, every progamer that's gone to Korea has said KR -> SEA is way lower latency than Aus -> SEA.
This has everything to do with SC2...delay on forcefields is the most horrible feeling of all time
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you kidding me ? 150ms is god like in Australia! anything below 220 is like unheard of because this country is in the stone age of internet. don't you dare complain about 150ms!!
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SEA server is based in Singapore, with some large providers such as Optus routing the traffic through US before Singapore. So sadly those on Optus and others in Aus can pretty much count out playing SC2 at all unless they are willing to play with it fluctuating between 200-350ms ping. While ping to NA and KR is around 150ms making this a more viable (although not ideal) option.
I agree with the OP that an Australian server is the best option to grow as a community, however this is unlikely at this stage of SC2's life cycle. I mean they haven't even implemented LAN or shared vision replays and I'm sure that would end up higher in priority in terms of catering the SC2 community as a whole.
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This is epic lolz form an SC2 prospective (NFI how many AUS/NZ wow subscriber there are). No way in hell Blizzard is going to subdivide the least played server in SC2.
We might get merged with someone else, Korea is the only other server in the region. But we wont be getting another server in the SEA region.
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ok guys, stop whinging, they gave us a sea server, and what ended up happening? only a tiny amount of users actually use the server, check out the SEA server usage compared to ANY OTHER server, its pathetic, the only reason bliz was nice enough to give us a server (based in singapore) is because we kept complaining about not having a server, and then they finally give SEA a server and barely anyone plays on it... GO FIGURE.
if youre with a provider that routes traffic stupidly to america first and then to singapore, then sure, youll get retarded ping, figure out a way to fix it by some sort of tunnel service to singapore or any other way you can think of getting lower ping, but for those of us who arnt idiotic and didnt go with optus, who have one of the worst valued internet plans in the country. 2nd only to telstra. we're fine. because we went with one of the better ISP's
tldr : blizz gave SEA a server. some AUS ISP's are bad and route traffic poorly. SEA server grossly underused.
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So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot. 
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On February 02 2012 20:47 Cascade wrote:So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot.
Depending on where you are it doesn't matter a lot. With good enough internet the the CBD in melbourne the lag is very minimal, my brother recently moved there and he has excellent latency to both SEA and NA.
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The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there?
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On February 02 2012 21:14 MHT wrote:
The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there?
we do.. they are called telstra
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I get worse ping to SEA than to US :\
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On February 02 2012 20:50 Tazerenix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 20:47 Cascade wrote:So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot. Depending on where you are it doesn't matter a lot. With good enough internet the the CBD in melbourne the lag is very minimal, my brother recently moved there and he has excellent latency to both SEA and NA.
sydney and melbourne are mostly fine for ping (compared to the rest of aus) something like 150ish ping to NA and about the same to sea (assuming not with optus)
for WA/SA/others id assume, the ping to SEA is about 100ms whereas the ping to NA is generally around 250
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ok, thanks Tazer and Sancho. 
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Either LAN, or Australian server.
180 ping to NA server and 220 to SEA server is STUPID.
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On February 02 2012 21:18 Sanchonator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 21:14 MHT wrote:
The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there? we do.. they are called telstra
This sounds interesting. What's the problem with them ?
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On February 02 2012 21:37 ArcticRaven wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 21:18 Sanchonator wrote:On February 02 2012 21:14 MHT wrote:
The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there? we do.. they are called telstra This sounds interesting. What's the problem with them ?
they own everything 
all other ISPs operate on telstra's lines etc (dont know all the details, basically telstra runs australia's internet)
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How can I check my ping in some servers?
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On February 02 2012 22:22 Scarbo wrote:
How can I check my ping in some servers?
command prompt
tracert sea.battle.net
tracert kr.battle.net
and so on; your later jumps indicate what your ping would be
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i would just like to say if you think 150 ms is bad, try 300-600 to NA, SEA and KR, mate you have nothing to complain about in that respect, but i would just love to see the NBN go though in a timely manner.
P.s. Optus is a fucking joke.
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On February 02 2012 22:45 Mazaire wrote:
i would just like to say if you think 150 ms is bad, try 300-600 to NA, SEA and KR, mate you have nothing to complain about in that respect, but i would just love to see the NBN go though in a timely manner.
P.s. Optus is a fucking joke.
150 is not anything to complain about...but is it wrong to hope for greener pastures? Since when is it a good attitude to accept sub-par as good enough? You gotta hope, man ^^
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On February 02 2012 22:47 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 22:45 Mazaire wrote:
i would just like to say if you think 150 ms is bad, try 300-600 to NA, SEA and KR, mate you have nothing to complain about in that respect, but i would just love to see the NBN go though in a timely manner.
P.s. Optus is a fucking joke. 150 is not anything to complain about...but is it wrong to hope for greener pastures? Since when is it a good attitude to accept sub-par as good enough? You gotta hope, man ^^
Haha no way. but we are stuck until the NBN goes though arn't we? or is any other telco going to put in their own fibre optics?
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On February 02 2012 21:41 Sanchonator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 21:37 ArcticRaven wrote:On February 02 2012 21:18 Sanchonator wrote:On February 02 2012 21:14 MHT wrote:
The hell? You got somekinda telecom mafia over there? we do.. they are called telstra This sounds interesting. What's the problem with them ? they own everything all other ISPs operate on telstra's lines etc (dont know all the details, basically telstra runs australia's internet)
I think we have the same here with Telia they own the lines however they are in no way a monopoly, they still have to compete since they aren't allowed to tax the the lines for how much they want. Pretty sure they don't demand "their cut" for companies to have servers on their nets though.
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In Wc3 i played on USWest and had 250 ping, to east 300+ and kor anywhere from 220-280, not sure about Sc2 as i haven't played on Kor but it fluxuates. I get sometimes very bad lag on either NA or SEA and sometimes not too bad....atm i live in the country (Outback) and my only source of Net for aaaaaaaaages was a Telstra Mobile Broadband Netstick which at best had 2-3 bars (So around half signal strength) and it cost me $150 for 10gb of data. This is simply because as people have said Telstra have the monopoly so they can charge whatever the fuck they like for shit service and it comes down to the fact that if you want internet then take it or leave it. The only correct way to describe Telstra, particularly for rural users is as a complete fucking joke
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On February 02 2012 20:50 Tazerenix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 20:47 Cascade wrote:So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot. Depending on where you are it doesn't matter a lot. With good enough internet the the CBD in melbourne the lag is very minimal, my brother recently moved there and he has excellent latency to both SEA and NA.
This makes me a little more comfortable, I'm also thinking about moving to Melbourne for university, thanks.
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On February 02 2012 20:28 Sanchonator wrote:
the SEA server is MUUUUUUUUUUCH better ping than NA for WA, but about the same for the eastern states >_<
Im been working in Sydney for the last 5 months, so bought an Aussie copy of SC2 to get my fix. It really did surprise me just how poor the SEA server is, if anything the NA server actually seems better most of the time and has a better chance of getting matched quicker.
(also totally unrelated to the topic, but AU$100!? You guys really do get shafted when it comes to video games).
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I don't even bother laddering on SEA anymore. NA gives me much better latency, not to mention shorter queue times and much more accurate matchmaking. I would personally support a merger of the SEA server with the KR server, as the latency with KR for me is about the same as the latency with NA), but as it is, with the free NA account with SEA accounts, I'm not bothered with merging SEA with NA. It would be especially nice if Blizzard allowed us to pick which region our free account is enabled on, but that would be too generous.
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Also, let me just chip in that the distance australia-USA is 15,000km. Going there and back (as the bird flies) is 100MS at the speed of light (300km/MS). So getting a ping of 150 to US is from a purely technical standpoint very impressive, seeing how it probably doesn't go completely straight, and how it will go through several stops.
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On February 02 2012 20:47 Cascade wrote:So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot.
Wow going from Swedish internet to Aust internet is going to suck a lot. I am pretty sure you can use the TW starter edition to try it out and see if it is better it depends on which ISP you are with.
Look on the bright side guys at least GSL is on at a good time here.
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On February 02 2012 22:59 Greendotz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 20:28 Sanchonator wrote:
the SEA server is MUUUUUUUUUUCH better ping than NA for WA, but about the same for the eastern states >_<
Im been working in Sydney for the last 5 months, so bought an Aussie copy of SC2 to get my fix. It really did surprise me just how poor the SEA server is, if anything the NA server actually seems better most of the time and has a better chance of getting matched quicker. (also totally unrelated to the topic, but AU$100!? You guys really do get shafted when it comes to video games).
at the ping thing - servers are hosted in singapore iirc and WA gets the best ping to it by far out of anyway in AUS, but we get shafted with the worst NA ping
as for price - yes we get shafted for game prices, even digital copies are full $100 instead of standard 40-60 like they would be in the US (i think the excuses some people used was to do with wages or something? either way its complete bullshit )
edit~ for people moving to aus for study etc - AVOID OPTUS LIKE THE PLAGUE, internode/iinet probably the best 2.. telstra is good for stability and speed but you will likely get shafted for price.
imo internode for best ping / iinet for best deals + decent ping / telstra for stability(sometimes telstra is the only option depending on location)
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
If Australia is unwilling, just put the server in NZ. Problem solved.
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Don't know why any of you want to play on SEA anyway. From what I've heard , majority of SEA country get decent ping to KR/TW server.
Also KR/TW server account is like half the price of SEA accounts . It's about 80-90$ here and a KR account costs like what..47? ..
They charge us double the price because they are giving us access to the NA server as well? I get lag to the NA server most of the time , so I'm paying extra for something I don't even use.
Also KR/Tw ladder is hard as hell , took me like 2 weeks to eventually make it to masters.
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I have always hated Telestra. Overcharge like a bitch, provide shitty service and ruin everyones day while getting rich.
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On February 03 2012 01:29 Plexa wrote:
If Australia is unwilling, just put the server in NZ. Problem solved.
well then they have to go their own monoply telecom which is even worse or the telstra subsidary.......
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heh yea after talking to a friend playing from austrailia u guys got some horrid options for ISPs . Nothing blizz can really do bout that tho. My ISP in the States on the east coast for a standard connection i get like 32mb up and down. I have no problem playing really to any server maybe KR with slight delay but really not even that bad.
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telstra was a government controlled company responsible for the creation of australias internet infrastructure.
But the government, being an idiot privatized it for a small profit, thereby allowing it to have a monopoly over the internet in the country.
this meant they didnt need to actually do ANYTHING to advance our net, because they could give us garbage and charge us as if it's jewelry.
now in order to fix the damage from this the government has been forced to spend BILLIONS on a Fibre optic network called the NBN.
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We bitched and moaned about this back in the days of vanilla Starcraft, we continued to bitch and moan about it through BW (although a large portion of us had been playing on Aus-1, a private server based out of Aus).... then we continued to bitch and moan through War3.... and WoW.... and now the cycle continues in SC2!!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but unless there's good money to be made out of such a move, they wont bother; unfortunately it's pretty much been shown that even without a locally based server, Australasian players will continue to buy and play Blizzard products. We are a small, and relatively powerless market, so when Blizzard's only options are cost ineffective, they'll save themselves the set up and maintenance costs.
I don't know if the "Telstra would only give us a shitty deal" excuse is still valid; it's been around for 12+ years now.
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I would just like to interject with a related rant.
GIMME THE NBN I NEED IT NOW GIVE ME FIBRE OPTIC CMON I HAVE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH AUSTRALIAN INTERNET.
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'Whitewolfx': You sir need to stop writing rubbish.
It's pretty clear that having to deal with 180ms as the 'best case scenario' is pretty unsatisfactory in this day and age. I don't know why you're contesting this. It's actually a massive joke that a loyal fan/consumer base such as Australia gets shafted so badly by Blizzard. Other large scale companies are doing it for their games, just look at BioWare for SWTOR, as of March they're bringing Australian based servers.. yet Blizzard continues to ignore many thousands of customers.
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I play on US and SEA and i have no lag on either,
Its weird hearing the many people who have lag issues on these servers. I didn't know our internet was that bad...
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My internet has good days and bad days for SC2. On the bad days i'm lucky if i can even log on and play a game against the AI. Probably about 1/4 of days I try play SC2 it doesn't really work out for me.
And for those from outside wondering, I've heard recently from someone in the business that Telstra owns about 95% (as I recall) of all the Internet cables in Australia, and 99% of the cables that go from data centres directly to people's homes.
So even though other internet providers do exist, Telstra is still running the show, and doesn't really need to improve to stay atop of the market.
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On February 03 2012 19:04 run.at.me wrote:
I play on US and SEA and i have no lag on either,
Its weird hearing the many people who have lag issues on these servers. I didn't know our internet was that bad...
connection u got then?
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If anything SEA will be merged with another server, not divided into more.
As for wow, that game is on the way to a well deserved death anyways..
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Just moved to Sydney from NZ for uni and Australian internet feels like a gift from the gods ^^. No more 40 gig caps at outrageous prices.
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Quite incredible that in a such developed country such a monopoly was allowed to exist.
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thanks for letting me know that telstra are the greedy titans who i need to point my pitchfork at :D
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On February 03 2012 06:17 cristo1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 01:29 Plexa wrote:
If Australia is unwilling, just put the server in NZ. Problem solved. well then they have to go their own monoply telecom which is even worse or the telstra subsidary.......
10 years ago yeah, not as bad anymore. I think my internet connection would best most aussie ones.
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On February 03 2012 18:39 snotboogie wrote:
I would just like to interject with a related rant.
GIMME THE NBN I NEED IT NOW GIVE ME FIBRE OPTIC CMON I HAVE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH AUSTRALIAN INTERNET.
one of my mates is in a new area that has the fibre optic stuff installed - he is on 90down ~20up
meanwhile 15mins south i have ~5down ~1up
:D
(the fun part is that he is locked on a 2year contract with telstra as a result)
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On February 03 2012 19:31 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 06:17 cristo1122 wrote:On February 03 2012 01:29 Plexa wrote:
If Australia is unwilling, just put the server in NZ. Problem solved. well then they have to go their own monoply telecom which is even worse or the telstra subsidary....... 10 years ago yeah, not as bad anymore. I think my internet connection would best most aussie ones.
Agreed, Telecom is no where near what Tesltra is here in Aus. That said, NZ connections (from what I understand) are on an even lower level than some of ours - or was it that your plans are worse than ours? I can't remember.
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Unfortunately, you'll probably have to raise holy heck with Telstra and/or your "local" provider to deal with routing issues... even with NBN, if your continental pipe goes the wrong direction (ie, you get bounced off North America to get to Singapore) you'll still have latency issues. Also, if Blizzard were able to rouse itself against Telstra, pressure from both sides can get results. (This has worked for CCP, a much smaller game company, when they have routing issues with connection to their (one) server. Then again, CCP also has a great deal of money tied into leased lines from major backbone providers and their network infrastructure (while smaller) is insane. But then they only have one server for the entire MMO.)
I don't see why the b.net servers can't just act as matchmaking systems - make it more peer-to-peer style. Don't give us LAN, fine... give us P2P play but requiring B.net to act as matchmaker and let match results be reported back in the background. Forcing all of the traffic for games through a small set of chokepoints is getting silly.
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On February 02 2012 20:47 Cascade wrote:So if I'm moving to melbourne, do you guys recommend me to get a SEA/NA account or a TW/KR account? That monopoly seems to suck a lot.
If you're planning on joining local events, get a SEA/NA account.
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On February 02 2012 20:08 snotboogie wrote:
It's not going to happen and the reason is Telstra. They have the power to demand whatever they want because they are the monopoly.
This is a clear cut case of why monopolies suck. Hopefully the NBN solves things.
I completely agree.
In fact, the reason why internet in Australia is so behind the rest of the world is Telstra.
Telstra is more evil than the devil. And we need the NBN to fix this.
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The SEA server is already small as it is. You want blizz to make an Australia only server?? Sure you'll get good ping, but also 30 min ladder queue times lol. What's the point??
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It's never going to happen, but why would you want it to? Take the Australian Counter-Strike scene as an example: light years behind everyone else right up until the rest of the world started to lose interest in the game.
Regardless of how good it would be for SEA/Australian-based tournaments, why would you want to segregate the community when our player pool isn't large enough to nuture any sort of significant improvement?
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Why do they have to deal with Telstra?
Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.
BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.
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On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?
Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.
BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.
Isn't it because Telstra owns most/all of the cables? All the other companies just 'rent' them from Telstra AFAIK
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On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?
Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.
BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.
Those companies still have to use Telstra infrastructure most of the time. Telstra has a monopoly there is no way around their bandwidth costs
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On February 04 2012 13:59 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?
Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.
BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.
Isn't it because Telstra owns most/all of the cables? All the other companies just 'rent' them from Telstra AFAIK
Telstra doesn't own everything. They are required by law to distribute to other ISPs at wholesale costs.
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On February 04 2012 14:10 FXOpen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?
Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.
BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.
Those companies still have to use Telstra infrastructure most of the time. Telstra has a monopoly there is no way around their bandwidth costs
Telstra has a monopoly but only for the copper lines. B.Net and game server are web applications... how does Telstra have any leverage over this? It's like the water companies saying to a restaurant that they can't use the water to wash dishes because they own the pipes going into the restaurant.
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face it, in australia we have third world internet compared to the major economic powers as we're supposedly to be part of. the governance of certain commodities such as electricity, water, public transport, communications are ALL subpar as they should be as a lot of australian companies have contributed worldwide with our technologies, e.g. octopus card in hk, but we fail to deliver on our own turf.
tl;dr australian governance (includes, governments, telecommunications, power, water etc.) = retards
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If the next Government scraps the NBN, you can say goodbye to the future of our economy.
NBN is our future, as mining isn't always going to be there.
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On February 04 2012 17:02 DeckstreaM wrote:
face it, in australia we have third world internet compared to the major economic powers as we're supposedly to be part of. the governance of certain commodities such as electricity, water, public transport, communications are ALL subpar as they should be as a lot of australian companies have contributed worldwide with our technologies, e.g. octopus card in hk, but we fail to deliver on our own turf.
tl;dr australian governance (includes, governments, telecommunications, power, water etc.) = retards
The public transport minister in my state should go to jail for his mishandling. Can't believe they wasted 1 billion on something so simple.
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On February 04 2012 17:02 DeckstreaM wrote:
face it, in australia we have third world internet compared to the major economic powers as we're supposedly to be part of. the governance of certain commodities such as electricity, water, public transport, communications are ALL subpar as they should be as a lot of australian companies have contributed worldwide with our technologies, e.g. octopus card in hk, but we fail to deliver on our own turf.
tl;dr australian governance (includes, governments, telecommunications, power, water etc.) = retards
NBN will fix the net problems assuming it continues as is and isnt scrapped or some stupid shit
@iinet/internode server thing : when blizzard were talking about an australian server with telstra and all that crap internode actually offered to host it iirc, no idea what happened with that but im fairly sure it was an option
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On February 04 2012 16:51 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 13:59 Ryder. wrote:On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?
Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.
BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.
Isn't it because Telstra owns most/all of the cables? All the other companies just 'rent' them from Telstra AFAIK Telstra doesn't own everything. They are required by law to distribute to other ISPs at wholesale costs.
Telstra owns all the cables, so they can charge other ISPs ridiculous prices.
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=39376 wrote:
We have received some initial prices on hosting boxes in Australia:
Our boxes on average use 4,000-5,000 GB of data transfer a month, we get these boxes for roughly $200 USD each in EU/USA
Provider 1: $1250 per month for hardware, $11,250.00 per month for bandwidth per box, box would support 110 concurrent users
Provider 2: $1100 per month for hardware, $22,500 per month for bandwidth per box, would support about 220 concurrent users.
We have also made inquiries at Internode and are awaiting a quote back from them (it was requested last week Tuesday).
So as you can see, the economics of hosting boxes in AU is just not there currently.
http://games.on.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=252&t=171568&sid=c5613775800ba2393dacdd2fc0f246b3
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iirc there was an article that said the NBN will take like a decade or two to be implemented though (unsure how true, though it's not like everyone will have it super soon, big country and all), so we may not see any change any time soon.
For the record I live just north of Sydney (central coast), Telstra ISP with 130 ping to sea and 200-250 to NA.
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On February 04 2012 20:49 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 16:51 haduken wrote:On February 04 2012 13:59 Ryder. wrote:On February 04 2012 13:52 haduken wrote:
Why do they have to deal with Telstra?
Internode, iinet are perfect candidates for putting up a server.
BTW 200ms ping is perfectly playable. You peeps are spoiled.
Isn't it because Telstra owns most/all of the cables? All the other companies just 'rent' them from Telstra AFAIK Telstra doesn't own everything. They are required by law to distribute to other ISPs at wholesale costs. Telstra owns all the cables, so they can charge other ISPs ridiculous prices. Show nested quote +http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=39376 wrote:
We have received some initial prices on hosting boxes in Australia:
Our boxes on average use 4,000-5,000 GB of data transfer a month, we get these boxes for roughly $200 USD each in EU/USA
Provider 1: $1250 per month for hardware, $11,250.00 per month for bandwidth per box, box would support 110 concurrent users
Provider 2: $1100 per month for hardware, $22,500 per month for bandwidth per box, would support about 220 concurrent users.
We have also made inquiries at Internode and are awaiting a quote back from them (it was requested last week Tuesday).
So as you can see, the economics of hosting boxes in AU is just not there currently. http://games.on.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=252&t=171568&sid=c5613775800ba2393dacdd2fc0f246b3
Dear lord, that can't be market pricing.
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maybe they should merge SEA with the KR/TW server since nobody (comparatively) plays on SEA.
then australians play on NA.
problem solved?
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i play on NA, queues for games are faster and i don't notice any ping difference.
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