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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 23 2012 08:27 GMT
#21
I believe in order to survive the coming of the BW teams, some sc2 teams will need to consolidate with each other. There are too many sc2 teams in Korea as it is and with some of them with barely a dozen members. And hopefully attract some more powerful sponsors in the international market cause it seems like they are being blacklisted somewhat in the Korean market by the influence of Kespa.
Someone call down the Thunder?
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
January 23 2012 08:27 GMT
#22
Really interesting read thank your for translating this.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
January 23 2012 08:29 GMT
#23
On January 23 2012 17:27 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I believe in order to survive the coming of the BW teams, some sc2 teams will need to consolidate with each other. There are too many sc2 teams in Korea as it is and with some of them with barely a dozen members. And hopefully attract some more powerful sponsors in the international market cause it seems like they are being blacklisted somewhat in the Korean market by the influence of Kespa.

blacklisted lol. Yeah what exactly gives you that idea?
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
January 23 2012 08:30 GMT
#24
BW pros have been coming for around 6 months now....
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 08:31:40
January 23 2012 08:31 GMT
#25
On January 23 2012 17:18 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
Mr. Chae> Our stance is that there is no problem as long as current SC2 players perform better than BW pros when they switch.


I don't know what this is supposed to mean.


I think what he's trying to say is as long as SC2 players are as good or better than the BW players there will be no problems with the current SC2/GSL players and teams to participate in the BW leagues (OSL).

If the BW players and teams would be significantly better than the current SC2 players/teams they could just exclude the teams because of the fact that they are 2nd tier and they want the best of the best.

I think Chae is talking about what Coach Won said earlier in the interview.

Coach Won> It's a problem. We should all think about this. Frankly, I'm not even sure if BW teams will even acknowledge SC2 teams as a legit professional team. After all, there was a rumor of how they are going to exclude current SC2 scene and all. Honestly, we cannot compete with them financially. How will we stop them from taking our players by offering more money? There needs to be some protective measures and plans for when the time comes, but realistically it's very difficult.

Bolded the interesting part.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 23 2012 08:32 GMT
#26
On January 23 2012 17:04 nath wrote:
i wish more money was pumped into korean sc2 teams; considering the fact that they still completely dominate foreign teams in practice regimen and results, they deserve it and it would prevent bw teams from overtaking when they switch.

however i wouldnt mind sc2 teams merging with bw teams that are switching over. slayers + SKT anyone??? LOL.


Considering the size of the teams, you cannot really call it a "merge", more like assimilation... <.<
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
January 23 2012 08:34 GMT
#27
There seems to be a lot of information available about the coming switch.

Personally, I don't feel strong for the current team brands, and wouldn't be too sad if e.g. New Star HoSeo, ZeNEX or TSL would be merged with a BW team. An example is when fOu was taken over by FXO, I think it just helped them.

Most important is that SC2 grows stronger i Korea. It is time for them to leave BW behind and move over to SC2. A good timing for the BW players would be to wait until HotS, since everything will be turned up side down then anyway.
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
January 23 2012 08:35 GMT
#28
Weird that the Bw teams are switching before HOTS. Would have been smart to start on almost equal footing with the sc2 pros. Bad for the sc2 teams tho
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
January 23 2012 08:35 GMT
#29
TIG> how would players react to an offer from BW pro teams?

Nestea> They would definitely consider it. What I heard was that they want players that are very bottom tiered, the ones who can't even break Code A. They want to buy them cheap and invest in them. Actually, I was approached for my opinions on which players are willing to come and for how much. They even asked me to introduce them and one player actually went.




the most important piece in the article imo O_O
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
January 23 2012 08:37 GMT
#30
Out of all the Korean SC2 teams, I'd expect Slayers to be the most financially stable. Just look at how often they poach players from other teams and have two very prominent sponsors (Intel and Razer).

I wonder how Slayers finances compare with the BW teams, even the lowest-paid ones.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 08:40:09
January 23 2012 08:39 GMT
#31
On January 23 2012 17:31 TheSilverfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 17:18 Subversive wrote:
Mr. Chae> Our stance is that there is no problem as long as current SC2 players perform better than BW pros when they switch.


I don't know what this is supposed to mean.


I think what he's trying to say is as long as SC2 players are as good or better than the BW players there will be no problems with the current SC2/GSL players and teams to participate in the BW leagues (OSL).

If the BW players and teams would be significantly better than the current SC2 players/teams they could just exclude the teams because of the fact that they are 2nd tier and they want the best of the best.

I think Chae is talking about what Coach Won said earlier in the interview.

Show nested quote +
Coach Won> It's a problem. We should all think about this. Frankly, I'm not even sure if BW teams will even acknowledge SC2 teams as a legit professional team. After all, there was a rumor of how they are going to exclude current SC2 scene and all. Honestly, we cannot compete with them financially. How will we stop them from taking our players by offering more money? There needs to be some protective measures and plans for when the time comes, but realistically it's very difficult.

Bolded the interesting part.

Nah it appears, although the answer is worded badly/confusingly, that he is answering this:

TIG> how would players react to an offer from BW pro teams?

Nestea> They would definitely consider it. What I heard was that they want players that are very bottom tiered, the ones who can't even break Code A. They want to buy them cheap and invest in them. Actually, I was approached for my opinions on which players are willing to come and for how much. They even asked me to introduce them and one player actually went.

And then:
TIG> Does GOMTV have any plans? Is it possible to do anything about this? You have the sole contract with the Blizzard and have the most SC2 players with GSL and GSTL.

So he's saying that GOMTV doesn't think it's a problem with low tier players switching and being trained up by BW teams, what Nestea said was likely for players not making much currently, providing of course that interest exists because the SC2 players are still better than their BW counterparts upon switching.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 08:39:59
January 23 2012 08:39 GMT
#32
On January 23 2012 17:37 lbmaian wrote:
Out of all the Korean SC2 teams, I'd expect Slayers to be the most financially stable. Just look at how often they poach players from other teams and have two very prominent sponsors (Intel and Razer).

I wonder how Slayers finances compare with the BW teams, even the lowest-paid ones.

speaking of slayers, i dont think any bw/sc2 fan wouldn't want to see boxer play. so if they exclude the current sc2 scene then fuck that ):
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
January 23 2012 08:40 GMT
#33
On January 23 2012 17:35 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Weird that the Bw teams are switching before HOTS. Would have been smart to start on almost equal footing with the sc2 pros. Bad for the sc2 teams tho


Completely agree. BW teams should wait until after HoTS.

Even ignoring the fresh start thing, the gameplay should be improved (hopefully), bnet may finally be good (I can always hope), and greater all around publicity.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
January 23 2012 08:42 GMT
#34
On January 23 2012 17:40 lbmaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 17:35 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Weird that the Bw teams are switching before HOTS. Would have been smart to start on almost equal footing with the sc2 pros. Bad for the sc2 teams tho


Completely agree. BW teams should wait until after HoTS.

Even ignoring the fresh start thing, the gameplay should be improved (hopefully), bnet may finally be good (I can always hope), and greater all around publicity.


It's the perfect time to switch. HotS beta will be coming soon(around April probably), and they can get used to the SC2 mechanics and units before then. Then practice all through HotS beta.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 08:43:16
January 23 2012 08:42 GMT
#35
If they're saying April, then it's probably what a lot of people suspected. That the first season of Proleague will be Brood War and then they will have that Grand Final as a send-off before the second season is entirely Starcraft 2 starting in April.

I think this could be fun. Maybe have the GSTL champions face the Proleague champions in a Super Bowl-like event. Would probably make a lot of cash.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 23 2012 08:43 GMT
#36
On January 23 2012 17:40 lbmaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 17:35 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Weird that the Bw teams are switching before HOTS. Would have been smart to start on almost equal footing with the sc2 pros. Bad for the sc2 teams tho


Completely agree. BW teams should wait until after HoTS.

Even ignoring the fresh start thing, the gameplay should be improved (hopefully), bnet may finally be good (I can always hope), and greater all around publicity.

They'll probably just practice on the side for a while. Really, there isn't a need to switch this early, or even in the next year. But it's still a good idea to practice so the transition doesn't take as long cause then you'd be like 2 years behind.
Nayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada413 Posts
January 23 2012 08:44 GMT
#37
On January 23 2012 17:37 lbmaian wrote:
Out of all the Korean SC2 teams, I'd expect Slayers to be the most financially stable. Just look at how often they poach players from other teams and have two very prominent sponsors (Intel and Razer).

I wonder how Slayers finances compare with the BW teams, even the lowest-paid ones.


I doubt Slayers would come anywhere close to any of the BW team (except for ACE) financially. Quick searching around shows that Intel provided Boxer personally with around $200,000 and another $300,000 to run the team. Source

That's like maybe half of salary budget for an average BW team.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
January 23 2012 08:48 GMT
#38
Any chance of getting the other parts translated?
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 23 2012 08:49 GMT
#39
Always fun to read an article like this with a players perspective. Not to mention, its nestea.
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 23 2012 08:51 GMT
#40
This is embarrassing.
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