It means that GOMTV doesn't care who is in their league. Actually I'm sure they want BW teams in their league. It will boost their business. Remember that their contract with Blizzard runs until next year.

Frankon

3054 Posts

January 23 2012 08:54 GMT

#44

On January 23 2012 17:42 Fionn wrote:
If they're saying April, then it's probably what a lot of people suspected. That the first season of Proleague will be Brood War and then they will have that Grand Final as a send-off before the second season is entirely Starcraft 2 starting in April.

I think this could be fun. Maybe have the GSTL champions face the Proleague champions in a Super Bowl-like event. Would probably make a lot of cash.

That would actually be cool. The problem would be who would produce it? GOM or the BW side (since im not into BW scene i dont know which station is doing it)

lightrise

United States1355 Posts

January 23 2012 08:54 GMT

#45

This is going to be crazy. Nestea knows that the top teams are already trying to snipe the undiscovered talent. He notes that they are trying to harvest players that have great potential and for cheap instead of buying up the "top players". They know that in the end hopefully their players will be better than the current generation of sc2 pros. This is pretty scary that they might exclude the current teams all together. Not sure how this would work since many sc1 pros have already come over and done well or alright. No one is just mind boggling good.

Subversive

Australia2229 Posts

January 23 2012 08:56 GMT

#46

On January 23 2012 17:44 Nayl wrote:

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I doubt Slayers would come anywhere close to any of the BW team (except for ACE) financially. Quick searching around shows that Intel provided Boxer personally with around $200,000 and another $300,000 to run the team. Source

That's like maybe half of salary budget for an average BW team.

Iirc running a BW team costs around 2-3 million a year.

Balgrog

United States1221 Posts

January 23 2012 08:56 GMT

#47

Great translation and thank you! I think the most interesting part of this article that hasnt been brought up before is if BW teams will just exclude the current SC2 team because of there money and influence. When they do finally make the switch, we had better be prepared for the shit storm of drama that's incoming.

jellyjello

Korea (South)664 Posts

January 23 2012 08:59 GMT

#48

On January 23 2012 17:37 lbmaian wrote:
Out of all the Korean SC2 teams, I'd expect Slayers to be the most financially stable. Just look at how often they poach players from other teams and have two very prominent sponsors (Intel and Razer).

I wonder how Slayers finances compare with the BW teams, even the lowest-paid ones.

Slayers is doing not bad because of the name "Boxer" and Jessica has some connections. Also I heard Prime isn't too bad either

MrCon

France29748 Posts

January 23 2012 08:59 GMT

#49

This is super interesting, thanks for translating this !

XThunderyX

United States367 Posts

January 23 2012 09:01 GMT

#50

As long as KESPA doesn't feel like going super power hungry on the scene I don't think the switch will be terrible, as long as teams are willing to merge or dissolve under a united union like SC2CON or Kespa or whatever. I mean, looking at the current BW teams: KT, Khan, Stars, CJ, T1, Stx, Ace, Team 8
I can easily see two easily dissolved teams, Ace and Team 8.
And looking at the current SC2 teams: IM, MVP, HoSeo, Startale, OGS, TSL, Prime, Zenex, FXO, Slayers
Zenex and TSL come to mind when thinking of merging with other teams. So this leaves us with 14 teams. Maybe merge two more teams and boom, 12 easily stable teams to make a proleague with.

Of course the issue is getting everybody happy to agree with this >.> But just my 2 cents.

DreamOen

Spain1400 Posts

January 23 2012 09:01 GMT

#51

THe other thing behind it , is that , the korean audience, would watch it more, if there are BW teams involved. As well as myself XD. And, too much egoism right here, everyone wants to protect their own interests besides let e-sports grow overall in south korea. Why? Because gom , obviusly is just saying that they are worry for the teams, but in reality, they are worried for their own channel only.

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

January 23 2012 09:03 GMT

#52

On January 23 2012 17:13 Bleak wrote:
I don't think the top BW folk will switch as long as there is demand for BW in Korea, and there still is. The last proleague finals were quite a success, though I remember from some other articles that things were much bigger in 2007 or so. Stork also had an interview and he said as long as there is demand for BW competition, he'll play BW.

I don't think demand for BW is the be all end all. It's no secret that BW is backed by significantly more influential sponsors than SC2 in Korea, but if those sponsors feel that supporting a player switch and promoting it will be enough to also bring over significant amounts of BW viewers to SC2 then they can retain a good amount of their target viewership in Korea while tapping into the now significantly bigger global market.

At the end of the day if the powers that be think it'll be more profitable and sustainable to make the switch it'll probably happen.

On January 23 2012 17:18 Subversive wrote:

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I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

As long as SC2 players are better than most BW players for a while after any switch (though we've heard for a while now there's a lot of them practicing, and NesTea's comments suggests as much) there's no real issue because the established sc2 scene will still have the better players and as such shouldn't be able to get cut out of any transition.

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Really interesting read tbh, great selection of interviewees too, I thought they all offered some different but equally interesting perspectives on the topics at hand.

Would love if someone wanted to translate the whole thing? *hint hint*

On January 23 2012 17:59 jellyjello wrote:

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Slayers is doing not bad because of the name "Boxer" and Jessica has some connections. Also I heard Prime isn't too bad either

Prime did the whole PrimeZzang thing right? I thought that was bizarre at first but it really seems to have given them some serious self-sustainability which is cool. Of course part of that is dependant on them remaining relevant to market it.

jellyjello

Korea (South)664 Posts

January 23 2012 09:08 GMT

#53

On January 23 2012 17:56 Balgrog wrote:
Great translation and thank you! I think the most interesting part of this article that hasnt been brought up before is if BW teams will just exclude the current SC2 team because of there money and influence. When they do finally make the switch, we had better be prepared for the shit storm of drama that's incoming.

I think it's almost given that kespa will have their own tourney / league. That's why the TIG reporter kept going after GOM in that article because it's going to be GOM who will have to negotiate the deal

vanhio

Niue1017 Posts

January 23 2012 09:10 GMT

#54

My dream scenario - Mvp goes to KT and then Flash and MVP rule the sc2 scene for decades :-)

Psi-Kick

Australia182 Posts

January 23 2012 09:11 GMT

#55

Thanks for translating this, I wonder what is said in the other 4 parts?

Coal

Sweden1535 Posts

January 23 2012 09:12 GMT

#56

On January 23 2012 17:54 Frankon wrote:

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That would actually be cool. The problem would be who would produce it? GOM or the BW side (since im not into BW scene i dont know which station is doing it)

I second this :O Would be amazing!

Angelbelow

United States3728 Posts

January 23 2012 09:15 GMT

#57

On January 23 2012 17:51 GreyKnight wrote:

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How so?

He probably won't answer. Which is a bummer because he probably knows some inside information and his remark is based on what he knows and how that compares to the article (which makes it even more interesting).

Which begs the question why even post something so ambiguous in the first place?

naux

Canada738 Posts

January 23 2012 09:20 GMT

#58

people are saying they cant wait till sc1 pros come to sc2 to dominate the scene.. but in honesty i believe its like sc2 players vsing sc1 players and i hope transition wont be foreigners to koreans anymore and i hope they make a world championship having the starcraft 2 players vsing the newer of the old starcraft 1 pros.. i only started watching starcraft from starcraft 2 so all these brood war players i honestly could care less and i would rather see MVP, MMA, Huk, idrA dominate the sc1 players and show them whats up since there coming into SC2

FlamingTurd

United States1059 Posts

January 23 2012 09:20 GMT

#59

That translation brings up a lot of awesome subjects. I really hope more and more attention is brought to SC2. The one disappointing thing though of course is the funding of SC2 teams which is rather sad.

Wrathsc2

United States2025 Posts

January 23 2012 09:23 GMT

#60

i say bring them on. sc2 teams will rip them a new one, idc who they are, sc2 is a different faster paced game that takes months of practice to get good at.