This is GSL - TiG Article (BW Pros are coming) - Page 4

On January 23 2012 17:00 jellyjello wrote:

With a start of 2011 GSL came the SC2Con association. However, it no longer exists. It was disbanded back in Sepember 24, 2011 after realizing that they could not perform the necessary duties. Coincidently, after it was disbanded, a few incidents of players acting unprofessionally began to surface. Since then, many players and officials talked about the need of an organization that will enforce and train players of the proper dealings between players and their teams, the teams and the league, as well as the dealings between teams each other.

TIG> Since SC2Con disbanded, there were a few incidents in regards to the professionalism. Byun and Coca is one example. A proper training of professionalism is needed, but the question is who should be in charge of it?

Mr. Chae> Sounds like you are telling me we should do it (laughing). Actually, I do think it's our job (note: GOMTV actually held a professional conduct seminar with many players not too long ago)

TIG> Ah.. No, I didn't meant it that way. I'm just saying, it looks like we need some organization who can perform such tasks. Currently there is no entity who can organize events or mediate different ideas.

Coach Won> I think it's absolutely necessary that there should be an association. The SC2Con had no power. We could not even discipline players. That's why, for the success of the league and the teams, we must have an association which involves all stake holders so that we can train players properly and resolve any disputes of player transfers. Currently, there is nothing that stops these from happening. There hasn't been a big problem yet, but I think it can happen at any time. It's not good that players are losing their match on purpose. In my opinion, the fact that these problems keep coming up desipte the trainings from each team indicates that players are missing the most basic education.

I also have to mention this since we are speaking about the SC2 association. There is a rumor that BW teams are starting SC2 sometime this April. Nothing's been official, but that's the word on the street. This is another reason why there must be a SC2 association. I'm not saying we are competing against them. But, we should posture ourselves to protect our interests. I think the SC2 association is a must in that regard.
Also, if KeSPA, Blizzard, or GOMTV wants an information about SC2 to be public, I think they must talk to the teams first before doing so. It's the same with the fans. They are all esports fans. There is no need to distinguish between BW fans and SC2 fans. We shouldn't be fighting for the already small market. We should all try to find a common ground and have discussions and gather opinions from fans, and SC2 association is a necessity tool for this to happen.

TIG> Is there a possibility of you starting the SC2Con again? I also feel that it's existance is necessary.

Coach Won> I want to. I'm thinking about it. However, it's not as simple as having team coaches together. As you know, coaches are already busy with the team operations that not many coaches are willing to commit to running the SC2 association. And, the association must have its own office and financially stable in order to gain credibility and accreditation. However, someone needs to do it. This is not going to get done over a night, but I think we should continue to talk about this with GOMTV and other team coaches.

TIG> Actually, there was a movement to start the SC2 association last year. With the beginning of the new year, I wish we'd continue those meetings again with GOMTV and a 3rd party mediator. It's important for player management and player contract disputes. I think this is something we should do it with a haste. We all should be part of it, including GOMTV - because players are already part of your league. We should all share our opinions and I think that having a 3rd party moderator is important.

On January 23 2012 18:15 Angelbelow wrote:


He probably won't answer. Which is a bummer because he probably knows some inside information and his remark is based on what he knows and how that compares to the article (which makes it even more interesting).

Which begs the question why even post something so ambiguous in the first place?

On January 23 2012 17:51 Wolf wrote:
This is embarrassing.

On January 23 2012 18:33 geno wrote:
I'd like to think the best possible outcome from this merging of scenes, at least in the short-term, would be partnerships galore. Foreign and Korean SC2 teams partnering up with BW teams to share skills and prospects and even players in relevant leagues (think SKT1-Slayers or KT-IM). Gom partnering up with the BW leagues to create exhibition or even regular season combo leagues (where the teams would have to win both BW and SC2 games to win a match), which would support BW/SC2 combo teams.

I think cooperation like this could go so far in terms of mending the gap between BW and SC2 fans, and get them to begin to root for eachother's teams as their fates become intertwined. Merging the korean BW audience and the worldwide SC2 audience could do some amazing things for the strength of the e-sports market.

On January 23 2012 18:15 Angelbelow wrote:


He probably won't answer. Which is a bummer because he probably knows some inside information and his remark is based on what he knows and how that compares to the article (which makes it even more interesting).

Which begs the question why even post something so ambiguous in the first place?

On January 23 2012 18:31 blade55555 wrote:


He says it so people know he knows something. He just wants it to be known and then to read the replies of people posting him asking

On January 23 2012 18:48 ZenithM wrote:
I think that when the BW scene officially switches, it will only be for lower level B-teamers for a while. A-teamers still have enough things to do and offers to stay playing BW. So I wouldn't get too excited (I was at first, then I realised that Flash and Bisu aren't coming soon :D). Lower tiered BW players probably won't bring much to the table anyway. They're not any more talented that SC2's current best players and they're too late to really catch up and have some impact on the game.

On January 23 2012 18:49 dtz wrote:
So, one of the BW teams has just recently bought an IM player. Wonder who it is and if he no longer wears IM tag. Then we'll know who it is.

Chances are it's jmight be some unknown B-teamer who is brought just to update the BW players with strategies and basic mechanics though.

On January 23 2012 18:43 pampelmus wrote:


Yeah. But it get's boring. All these "insiders" posting, bragging about knowing, but not actually sharing information. Dunno. Post it or leave it, Wolf!

On January 23 2012 17:00 jellyjello wrote:

TIG> Does GOMTV have any plans? Is it possible to do anything about this? You have the sole contract with the Blizzard and have the most SC2 players with GSL and GSTL.