EPTGolden and Dragon leave SlayerS - Page 7
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Phobbers
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
As far as I'm aware, any player who puts in 40+ hours a week isn't on a contract below minimum wage. You also have to look at it in terms of benefits, not just the actual cash payment. | ||
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rUiNati0n
United States1155 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:35 Phobbers wrote: Apparently Dragon just departed Slayers as well https://twitter.com/#!/slayersdragon/status/158828584990031872 Are they actually being kicked out!? | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:35 Phobbers wrote: Apparently Dragon just departed Slayers as well https://twitter.com/#!/slayersdragon/status/158828584990031872 Iiiiiiinteresting. Wonder what's going on in SlayerS. Well, Dragon won't be a big loss to them. Tbh, Dragon could probably make enough off of just streaming Destiny-style; he tends to pull in lots of viewers, right? | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:35 Phobbers wrote: Apparently Dragon just departed Slayers as well https://twitter.com/#!/slayersdragon/status/158828584990031872 Well, now this is starting to seem like BoxeR cutting players because the SlayerS roster is needlessly huge. | ||
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:28 Duravi wrote: I don't understand the $5k-10k contracts, assuming it is a fulltime job and you expect 40 hours a week out of your players aren't you required to pay a salary equivalent with minimum wage? They aren't paying players for an obligatory amount of practice play. They're paying them to represent them; paying them for their public persona and results. A studio is going to pay Brad Pitt more than they would Joe-Blow-Getting-Into-The-Industry even if they put the same amount of time and quality of performance into a film. And hell, if you can get results without ever playing in free time, you're still going to have more value than someone who can't get results but still practices 40hr/week. | ||
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KillAudio
1364 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:37 Oiseaux wrote: They aren't paying players for an obligatory amount of practice play. They're paying them to represent them; paying them for their public persona and results. A studio is going to pay Brad Pitt more than they would Joe-Blow-Getting-Into-The-Industry even if they put the same amount of time and quality of performance into a film. And hell, if you can get results without ever playing in free time, you're still going to have more value than someone who can't get results but still practices 40hr/week. I understand that, but in some countries like here in the united states you are required to pay a minimum hourly wage (or equivalent salary) for a fulltime (40+ hours a week) job. So there is a bottom net which even the worst player can't fall below, assuming they are classified as a full-time employee. | ||
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Kuni
Austria765 Posts
24/7-Streamer_Y - 5000+us/month (streaming only) What the fuck is wrong with that shit | ||
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Regime
Australia185 Posts
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Neelia
Germany599 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:36 babylon wrote: Iiiiiiinteresting. Wonder what's going on in SlayerS. Well, Dragon won't be a big loss to them. Tbh, Dragon could probably make enough off of just streaming Destiny-style; he tends to pull in lots of viewers, right? His viewers have dropped by quite a bit over the last months  I think/hope Dragon should be able to find a new team, cause he has a personality you can relate to. Something that most other korean pros lack/don't show. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:28 Duravi wrote: I don't understand the $5k-10k contracts, assuming it is a fulltime job and you expect 40 hours a week out of your players aren't you required to pay a salary equivalent with minimum wage? They pay you to play for them. It doesn't matter that you play 40 hours, 80 hours or 1 hour a week, as long as you pay for their name and have good result, they're satisfied. Of course each team has its own requirement also. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:39 Duravi wrote: I understand that, but in some countries like here in the united states you are required to pay a minimum hourly wage (or equivalent salary) for a fulltime (40+ hours a week) job. So there is a bottom net which even the worst player can't fall below, assuming they are classified as a full-time employee. Unless we know what the minimum wage is for Korea there is no way to know what that possible minimum is. Again, minimum wage is different for all countries. I do understand your logic though, even though players are paid based on results and talent, not amount of work (as it is for all sports). | ||
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B.I.G.
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:41 lichter wrote: Unless we know what the minimum wage is for Korea there is no way to know what that possible minimum is. Again, minimum wage is different for all countries. I do understand your logic though, even though players are paid based on results and talent, not amount of work (as it is for all sports). Don't most sports leagues have a minimum wage as well? http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/7/25/2293151/the-minimum-salaries-for-nfl-players-have-increased-by-55000-across Minimum wage negotiated by the player's union. | ||
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
EDIT: Also, if koreans think that they will get easily picked up by foreign teams we might have a issue on our hands. - They wont get the same practice schedule(which turn koreans to gods) - They wont get the best of the best practice partners - lesser korean teams might desolve! | ||
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:39 Duravi wrote: I understand that, but in some countries like here in the united states you are required to pay a minimum hourly wage (or equivalent salary) for a fulltime (40+ hours a week) job. So there is a bottom net which even the worst player can't fall below, assuming they are classified as a full-time employee. The problem with your line of thinking is thinking of it as a minimum HOURLY wage. It's a contract, it's not an hourly wage. I would be very surprised if these contracts had stipulations about how much a player must play specifically in any given day/week/month etc. How much the person feels they need to play to honor the contract is completely on their end, not the teams. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:41 Neelia wrote: His viewers have dropped by quite a bit over the last months I think/hope Dragon should be able to find a new team, cause he has a personality you can relate to. Something that most other korean pros lack/don't show.That's unfortunate. He doesn't really have any results, so he really needs to rely on his streaming. Out of the former SlayerS players, I'd say Sleep is the one with the most skill/potential, but if he's asking for too much ... meh. Any reason why he's listed as TBA vs. N/A like the others on the SlayerS Liquipedia page? | ||
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djfoxmccloud
France185 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:28 mTwTT1 wrote: bro how many gods can there be? god1 is 1 person and god2 is 1 person *whispers* Before the edit it consisted of Boxer and Huk | ||
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paintfive
785 Posts
On January 16 2012 17:26 89andy wrote: Now the question is who is in the so called GOD1 and GOD2 tiers haha. Less than 5 people combined in those two tiers I presume? god1 is obviously boxer....... ![[image loading]](http://image1.mop.com/images/cr/2011-01-13/12948975717218054.jpg) | ||
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