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StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
January 16 2012 08:54 GMT
#141
GOD1 boxer (reputation)
GOD2 Multiple GSL winners (Nestea, MVP, ~MC)
T1 Code S routine players (MKP, DRG, Losira, etc)
T2 Code S / Code A borderline players
T3 Code A / Code B (fits the description "really good but no results")

would be my guess...
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
January 16 2012 08:54 GMT
#142
All this salary talk makes me really hope that MC got a big salary boost by joining SK.

MC was certainly underpaid at oGs. He's the best Protoss in the world, with by far the best tournament results of any Protoss, and he's really funny and speaks English at foreign events so he's got probably the most fans of any SC2 Korean other than Boxer.

I hope MC's new salary is at least close to Huk's, based on the fact that Huk is probably the highest salaried SC2 player in the world. MC obviously wouldn't make more than Huk, he's not white or American so his marketing potential is limited no matter how good his results are.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
January 16 2012 08:54 GMT
#143
On January 16 2012 17:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 17:35 Phobbers wrote:
Apparently Dragon just departed Slayers as well


Well, now this is starting to seem like BoxeR cutting players because the SlayerS roster is needlessly huge.


To be fair, Dragon was never in the house and Idra said that Golden had left prior to Idra arriving in the SlayerS house. I'm sure they wouldn't kick them if they trained in the house.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 16 2012 08:55 GMT
#144
Coca, please return soon. SlayerS needs your gosu Zerg ability now more than ever. T_T Not to mention you are one of the best players on SlayerS vs. Protoss.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
January 16 2012 08:56 GMT
#145
On January 16 2012 17:54 StyLeD wrote:
GOD1 boxer (reputation)
GOD2 Multiple GSL winners (Nestea, MVP, ~MC)
T1 Code S routine players (MKP, DRG, Losira, etc)
T2 Code S / Code A borderline players
T3 Code A / Code B (fits the description "really good but no results")

would be my guess...

Before it was deleted it was
GOD1 boxer intel sponsorship
GOD2 Huk
T1 Idra/Puma/Naniwa esque players
T2 morrow/kiwikaki esque player
T3 Everything else
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 08:58:11
January 16 2012 08:57 GMT
#146
On January 16 2012 17:54 StyLeD wrote:
GOD1 boxer (reputation)
GOD2 Multiple GSL winners (Nestea, MVP, ~MC)
T1 Code S routine players (MKP, DRG, Losira, etc)
T2 Code S / Code A borderline players
T3 Code A / Code B (fits the description "really good but no results")

would be my guess...

No. Before it was edited by Xeris, it was:

GOD1: Boxer
GOD2: HuK
T1: Naniwa, IdrA, Puma
T2: I forget.
T3: Nobody listed besides the description.

EDIT: I was beat. T.T
dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
January 16 2012 08:57 GMT
#147
On January 16 2012 17:54 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 17:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:35 Phobbers wrote:
Apparently Dragon just departed Slayers as well

https://twitter.com/#!/slayersdragon/status/158828584990031872

Well, now this is starting to seem like BoxeR cutting players because the SlayerS roster is needlessly huge.


To be fair, Dragon was never in the house and Idra said that Golden had left prior to Idra arriving in the SlayerS house. I'm sure they wouldn't kick them if they trained in the house.


Thought Dragon was in the house, but for a short period of time?
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 16 2012 08:58 GMT
#148
On January 16 2012 17:39 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 17:37 Oiseaux wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:28 Duravi wrote:
I don't understand the $5k-10k contracts, assuming it is a fulltime job and you expect 40 hours a week out of your players aren't you required to pay a salary equivalent with minimum wage?


They aren't paying players for an obligatory amount of practice play. They're paying them to represent them; paying them for their public persona and results. A studio is going to pay Brad Pitt more than they would Joe-Blow-Getting-Into-The-Industry even if they put the same amount of time and quality of performance into a film. And hell, if you can get results without ever playing in free time, you're still going to have more value than someone who can't get results but still practices 40hr/week.

I understand that, but in some countries like here in the united states you are required to pay a minimum hourly wage (or equivalent salary) for a fulltime (40+ hours a week) job. So there is a bottom net which even the worst player can't fall below, assuming they are classified as a full-time employee.



eSports isn't legal enough to enforce this. Yes technically, if you own a business here in the USA, you are legally obligated to pay minimum wage. You need special government / school board approval to be able to have unpaid internships (you must offer school credit, which you need approval from a school board to do). So technically, 99% of eSports jobs, like almost all of TL staff, is illegal.

It's a huge grey area though, the internet seems to not abide by the same laws an office building does. So it's really unrealistic to expect real world scenarios to apply to this very new, infant, industry.
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Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 16 2012 08:58 GMT
#149
Slayers Golden is actually really good.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
January 16 2012 08:59 GMT
#150
Wow if I left SlayerS I would leave Korea forever in shame. I would live with regret for the rest of my life. Alas I digress.

Good luck to both Golden and Dragon in their Star2 careers.
(ノ `Д´)ノ︵┻━┻
89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
January 16 2012 09:00 GMT
#151
I doubt koreans get paid a lot, they make the most out of their prize moneys.

Honestly I think Idra is worth more to EG than Huk. But then again contracts get renegotiated every year, so his new contract might be worth more. Win or lose he just attracts people either way.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 16 2012 09:00 GMT
#152
should get signed by a team before they quit. their marketability goes down when they are no longer assigned to a team because they are more desperate for money.
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
January 16 2012 09:00 GMT
#153
Why would they leave slayers -_- Just the fact that you're with Boxer is really convincing enough to stay
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
January 16 2012 09:00 GMT
#154
On January 16 2012 17:57 dearyuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 17:54 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:35 Phobbers wrote:
Apparently Dragon just departed Slayers as well

https://twitter.com/#!/slayersdragon/status/158828584990031872

Well, now this is starting to seem like BoxeR cutting players because the SlayerS roster is needlessly huge.


To be fair, Dragon was never in the house and Idra said that Golden had left prior to Idra arriving in the SlayerS house. I'm sure they wouldn't kick them if they trained in the house.


Thought Dragon was in the house, but for a short period of time?

Just for a trial period. SlayerS has an A team and B team. The A team lives in the house while the B team are just part of the clan and occasionally get the chance for a trial period in the house to see if they fit in and are good enough. At least that's what I remember reading.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
January 16 2012 09:01 GMT
#155
On January 16 2012 16:58 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:51 StarMoon wrote:
On January 16 2012 16:42 Xeris wrote:I.E. I know when I was still with Fnatic, we approached Sleep, and he was asking for something in the range of $1.5k .. I know Sangho is currently looking for something along the lines of $3k . So crazy -- its why almost all the Koreans who post about looking for foreign team, still haven't found one T_T
1.5k/3k a month? a day? what?
And Kennigit's reaction, care to elaborate for those of us who are uninitiated?
I think its really inappropriate to release information you learned while under the employment of a team, especially when you are still involved in the industry. It's like incontrol coming out with statements about NASL's finances, their projections, goals etc. Especially with a team, where your scouting methods are kept close to the chest, your bargaining position. Its just really bad imo.

Did iNcontroL acctually do that or was that just an example?

Besides that-- It's sad they both had to leave the team hopefully they find new teams soon. I almost have a feeling that Dragon won't even look for a new team though. Also have to wonder how long Golden will be without a team considering Sleep is still teamless at this point ... could be a while :/
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 16 2012 09:01 GMT
#156
esahara seems to be rounding up Korean B-Teamers o:
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
January 16 2012 09:01 GMT
#157
On January 16 2012 18:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
should get signed by a team before they quit. their marketability goes down when they are no longer assigned to a team because they are more desperate for money.

This is an excellent point. Even in most industries it is always a better idea to to find a new job well in your current one, and not quit and then find one (and not just for cash flow reasons).
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
January 16 2012 09:02 GMT
#158
On January 16 2012 18:00 Ace1123 wrote:
Why would they leave slayers -_- Just the fact that you're with Boxer is really convincing enough to stay

Being with BoxeR probably doesn't pay the bills.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 16 2012 09:02 GMT
#159
On January 16 2012 17:58 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 17:39 Duravi wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:37 Oiseaux wrote:
On January 16 2012 17:28 Duravi wrote:
I don't understand the $5k-10k contracts, assuming it is a fulltime job and you expect 40 hours a week out of your players aren't you required to pay a salary equivalent with minimum wage?


They aren't paying players for an obligatory amount of practice play. They're paying them to represent them; paying them for their public persona and results. A studio is going to pay Brad Pitt more than they would Joe-Blow-Getting-Into-The-Industry even if they put the same amount of time and quality of performance into a film. And hell, if you can get results without ever playing in free time, you're still going to have more value than someone who can't get results but still practices 40hr/week.

I understand that, but in some countries like here in the united states you are required to pay a minimum hourly wage (or equivalent salary) for a fulltime (40+ hours a week) job. So there is a bottom net which even the worst player can't fall below, assuming they are classified as a full-time employee.



eSports isn't legal enough to enforce this. Yes technically, if you own a business here in the USA, you are legally obligated to pay minimum wage. You need special government / school board approval to be able to have unpaid internships (you must offer school credit, which you need approval from a school board to do). So technically, 99% of eSports jobs, like almost all of TL staff, is illegal.

It's a huge grey area though, the internet seems to not abide by the same laws an office building does. So it's really unrealistic to expect real world scenarios to apply to this very new, infant, industry.

...

had they met the requirements of the laws (i.e., they were employees under the wage and hour laws), the laws would apply to them. but they dont meet the requirements of the laws; they aren't employees (the players that is).
Vaapad
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway171 Posts
January 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#160
EG.Dragon!
would be soooo awesome
not very likely though...
Duty is heavier than a mountain. Death, lighter than a feather
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